EPT[Patch 1.0.0.143: MidJuly-Zyra] General Discussion - Page 57
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mordek
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Sermokala
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HazMat
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Requizen
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On July 24 2012 18:16 Sponkz wrote: No wonder they're low elo players if they're that retarded. No offence to anyone here on TL ^^ Counter-picking yourself like that, is like calling the police to tell them you're gonna rob a bank. It's stupid as fuck, and you should seriously re-consider what you're doing. A bit late on this, but at low ELOs you often don't really get to have the choice to counter-pick or pick in a specific order. If you're first pick, you can never ever ever count on anyone else having a champ for you. So if you get stuck as FP playing mid, and you ask the AD to pick you your champ and switch, it ain't gonna happen. Either they won't have the champ, or they'll refuse to switch, or they'll be afk and then rage when you pick AD first because you don't want to get counterpicked. I only get semi-intelligent teammates who understand the pick/ban process maybe 1 out of 5 games. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
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In ranked 5s, I'll play what fits in our team comp/what will give me a good (or at least decent) lane phase. | ||
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HazMat
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Slayer91
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jcarlsoniv
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Alaric
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Also stupid stuff like cone AoE whiffing like mad when you smartcast them at short range, gotta take the habit to click farther so it casts exactly at the angle I want it too. Mechanics. T.T | ||
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Leonite7
Ireland921 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:36 Alaric wrote: Urgh, mechanics so annoying. Been playing a lot of Ezreal, and not having any escape on Ashe makes me forced to stutter-step when somebody tries to dive me. I'm so bad at that I missclick often enough to fuck up kills or get myself killed. Need to pick Ashe or Vayne 10 games in a row to practice that "click behind, click champ in front, repeat". Also stupid stuff like cone AoE whiffing like mad when you smartcast them at short range, gotta take the habit to click farther so it casts exactly at the angle I want it too. Mechanics. T.T Cool tip for stutter stepping is to shift-right click to do an attack move behind you and then right click to move backwards. On a UK keyboard you can also use a-left click behind you and then right click, I guess it would be the key underneath a on a French keyboard with the AZERTY set up. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:44 Leonite7 wrote: Cool tip for stutter stepping is to shift-right click to do an attack move behind you and then right click to move backwards. On a UK keyboard you can also use a-left click behind you and then right click, I guess it would be the key underneath a on a French keyboard with the AZERTY set up. That gets wonky as soon as minions are involved though, or will your champ prioritize other champions on attack move? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:36 Alaric wrote: Urgh, mechanics so annoying. Been playing a lot of Ezreal, and not having any escape on Ashe makes me forced to stutter-step when somebody tries to dive me. I'm so bad at that I missclick often enough to fuck up kills or get myself killed. Need to pick Ashe or Vayne 10 games in a row to practice that "click behind, click champ in front, repeat". Also stupid stuff like cone AoE whiffing like mad when you smartcast them at short range, gotta take the habit to click farther so it casts exactly at the angle I want it too. Mechanics. T.T You might wanna try and work in some a-move (can have that on smart cast too). No more missed clicks on champs. Obviously only recommendable if there only is one enemy in range. Sadly some cone spells won't cast if you click farther than their range (Annie for example) so in the end you have to cast them with short range clicks anyways. Hmm I wonder if a-move smartcast still is bugged with chat... Like, you type an "a" in chat and your champ a-moves to whatever location your cursor is at. Annoying. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:45 Requizen wrote: That gets wonky as soon as minions are involved though, or will your champ prioritize other champions on attack move? I think you can use the button that targets only champions with that click, but you'll probably need to rebind it somehow first as it's the button next to 1, pretty hard hand motion to keep it pressed while holding shift and clicking away, at least I find it so. | ||
Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:49 daemir wrote: I think you can use the button that targets only champions with that click, but you'll probably need to rebind it somehow first as it's the button next to 1, pretty hard hand motion to keep it pressed while holding shift and clicking away, at least I find it so. wtf there is such a button?! mind = blown | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
It's the ` (or ~) button next to your 1 button, basically makes it so you can't target anything but Champs, useful for making sure you don't Taric stun a minion or whatever. I'm not sure you can Shift + `, though. I mean, if it works, great, but I don't know if it does or not. If so, I'll probably rebind "Champ only" to one of my side mouse buttons. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:36 Alaric wrote: Urgh, mechanics so annoying. Been playing a lot of Ezreal, and not having any escape on Ashe makes me forced to stutter-step when somebody tries to dive me. I'm so bad at that I missclick often enough to fuck up kills or get myself killed. Need to pick Ashe or Vayne 10 games in a row to practice that "click behind, click champ in front, repeat". Also stupid stuff like cone AoE whiffing like mad when you smartcast them at short range, gotta take the habit to click farther so it casts exactly at the angle I want it too. Mechanics. T.T That's what everyone played D3 for. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: Probably because wings is one of the most mechanically sound top laners in the game. Well then there you go. People should being pussies and become mechanically sound laners! | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I generally think of fights as 3 types: 1v1 trading in lane, skirmishes involving small numbers, and teamfights. How should I be managing my spells during each of these? What points is it best to fire off everything and run, or is it better to stick around and spam things as they come off CD? Should I always fire off everything at the closest target, or is it occasionally wiser to hold them until a more valuable enemy is nearby? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
I'll use the example of Viktor since I know him best. You need to assess the two teams. Can you get your W on their carries or do you need to place it on your carries to save them? Can you trap/zone someone with W? Keep poking with Q. It is very short cooldown, doesn't cost too much mana, and can do some real chunking. Get your ult and E to burst down the key targets. Even late game, your burst is terrifying for a carry. All this time, you need to keep your own safety in mind. If you die before you can kill a target, or do substantial damage to multiple target, then you're useless (unless your team can clean up). For most mages, once your CDs are down, you're pretty useless and your AAs won't do much, so get to a safe spot or reposition to follow up once your CDs are back. You really need to know your CDs vs enemy CDs and play according to those. If you can continually use your abilities to keep pressure, then do so as long as you can stay safe. If you're a high burst mage with long cooldowns, blow your CDs on priority targets and then get your ass in a better position. | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
On July 24 2012 23:55 Requizen wrote: Tried this. Though tilde stops you from targeting non-champions, it doesn't change your attack-move command. Makes sense since that command isn't targeted anyway. It's the ` (or ~) button next to your 1 button, basically makes it so you can't target anything but Champs, useful for making sure you don't Taric stun a minion or whatever. I'm not sure you can Shift + `, though. I mean, if it works, great, but I don't know if it does or not. If so, I'll probably rebind "Champ only" to one of my side mouse buttons. | ||
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