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Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
July 24 2012 03:37 GMT
#1001
Nyjacky's always been a great AP carry and one of the best with the champs he's comfortable with. The problem is that his champ pool was relatively low compared to others. This is actually something Saint pointed out when he was still on CLG. If you watch Curse streams since Saint joined you can hear him pushing Nyjacky to try different champs and getting on him for selecting Veigar all the time.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 24 2012 03:42 GMT
#1002
Where do you guys get most of these streams for LoL? Is there a site like TL that will list them all on the sidebar or something?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 24 2012 03:42 GMT
#1003
On July 24 2012 12:32 Lmui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:29 iCanada wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:19 Kouda wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:17 iCanada wrote:
Nyjacky has improved so much since Saint joined Curse, it is actually kind of absurd.


Do explain? Haven't followed the proscene as closely compared to SC


[image loading]

Thats not to say Nyjacky hasn't been good before, but typically his score looks much more like Ahri's and much less like, you know... his. Occasionally he would hard carry with his Veigar, buit now he has such a huge AP pool, and almost always wins his lane while leading the game in farm.

Game just finished and Jacky was 10/0/11. Thats like the kind of score you expect from a 2k player smurfing. You just doint see that at the pro level.


Froggen does that all the time >.>. As in every third game, it's pretty sick.


Yes, but I've considered Froggen the best AP player in the world for a long long time. When is the last time you thought to yourself "Nyjacky is as good as Froggen."

Within the past two weeks or so, I'd say that it honestly isn't too much of a stretch.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2012 03:44 GMT
#1004
On July 24 2012 12:42 IMoperator wrote:
Where do you guys get most of these streams for LoL? Is there a site like TL that will list them all on the sidebar or something?


http://solomid.net/streams.php

and

http://clgaming.net/livestreams

are what I use
Freeeeeeedom
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 24 2012 03:48 GMT
#1005
There's also a chrome extension, "LoL Stream Browser"
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
July 24 2012 03:51 GMT
#1006
I use
http://www.own3d.tv/game/League of Legends

and

http://www.twitch.tv/directory/League of Legends
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
July 24 2012 03:54 GMT
#1007
On July 24 2012 11:41 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 11:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:34 HazMat wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:33 koreasilver wrote:
It only rounds to make it look pretty on your screen. In actuality, nothing rounds.

fuu, 6 flat AD reds and one flat AD blue gets me to 9.9 lol. Guess I'll put 1 scaling AD.


Is this for akali? You actually only need 9.5, they changed so people wouldn't run into exactly this problem.

Was working on a jungle Lee page. I ended up going 18 apen 5.1 ad.


If you're really anal about reaching whole number breakpoints with your runes (like I am) you might be interested and disappointed to know that three arpen reds at 1.66 each give you 4.98 arpen and not 5 -.-

I run five reds for 8.3 arpen

and then i go four ad reds + three quints which gives you 10.55 AD... it'll say 11 on ur runepage and 10 in game
so I added two flat ad blues at .28 each to get to 11.11 AD

then of course i have only seven slots for blues but seven flat mr blues gives 9.38mr plus one mr yellow is .7x so I'm okay with just over 10mr

but now i have only 8 slots for yellow you say?

WELL full armor yellows at 1.41 don't actually give you 13 armor it gives you 12.69 ... eight of them gives 11.28 ... so basically I run only eight armor yellows on everyone now

SO IT ALL WORKS OUT
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 24 2012 03:55 GMT
#1008
On July 24 2012 12:54 Logrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 11:41 HazMat wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:34 HazMat wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:33 koreasilver wrote:
It only rounds to make it look pretty on your screen. In actuality, nothing rounds.

fuu, 6 flat AD reds and one flat AD blue gets me to 9.9 lol. Guess I'll put 1 scaling AD.


Is this for akali? You actually only need 9.5, they changed so people wouldn't run into exactly this problem.

Was working on a jungle Lee page. I ended up going 18 apen 5.1 ad.


If you're really anal about reaching whole number breakpoints with your runes (like I am) you might be interested and disappointed to know that three arpen reds at 1.66 each give you 4.98 arpen and not 5 -.-

I run five reds for 8.3 arpen

and then i go four ad reds + three quints which gives you 10.55 AD... it'll say 11 on ur runepage and 10 in game
so I added two flat ad blues at .28 each to get to 11.11 AD

then of course i have only seven slots for blues but seven flat mr blues gives 9.38mr plus one mr yellow is .7x so I'm okay with just over 10mr

but now i have only 8 slots for yellow you say?

WELL full armor yellows at 1.41 don't actually give you 13 armor it gives you 12.69 ... eight of them gives 11.28 ... so basically I run only eight armor yellows on everyone now

SO IT ALL WORKS OUT


You ARE aware that every decimal worth of stats counts, right?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 24 2012 03:56 GMT
#1009
On July 24 2012 12:42 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:32 Lmui wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:29 iCanada wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:19 Kouda wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:17 iCanada wrote:
Nyjacky has improved so much since Saint joined Curse, it is actually kind of absurd.


Do explain? Haven't followed the proscene as closely compared to SC


[image loading]

Thats not to say Nyjacky hasn't been good before, but typically his score looks much more like Ahri's and much less like, you know... his. Occasionally he would hard carry with his Veigar, buit now he has such a huge AP pool, and almost always wins his lane while leading the game in farm.

Game just finished and Jacky was 10/0/11. Thats like the kind of score you expect from a 2k player smurfing. You just doint see that at the pro level.


Froggen does that all the time >.>. As in every third game, it's pretty sick.


Yes, but I've considered Froggen the best AP player in the world for a long long time. When is the last time you thought to yourself "Nyjacky is as good as Froggen."

Within the past two weeks or so, I'd say that it honestly isn't too much of a stretch.

Personally ive thought Froggen was over rated for a long time, always been a big jacky/jiji fan though
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 24 2012 03:57 GMT
#1010
Zyra looks like a really cool&fun champ to play O_O

Soniv I bet you excited to own noobs with this in ranked son!
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 24 2012 03:57 GMT
#1011
On July 24 2012 12:56 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:42 iCanada wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:32 Lmui wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:29 iCanada wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:19 Kouda wrote:
On July 24 2012 12:17 iCanada wrote:
Nyjacky has improved so much since Saint joined Curse, it is actually kind of absurd.


Do explain? Haven't followed the proscene as closely compared to SC


[image loading]

Thats not to say Nyjacky hasn't been good before, but typically his score looks much more like Ahri's and much less like, you know... his. Occasionally he would hard carry with his Veigar, buit now he has such a huge AP pool, and almost always wins his lane while leading the game in farm.

Game just finished and Jacky was 10/0/11. Thats like the kind of score you expect from a 2k player smurfing. You just doint see that at the pro level.


Froggen does that all the time >.>. As in every third game, it's pretty sick.


Yes, but I've considered Froggen the best AP player in the world for a long long time. When is the last time you thought to yourself "Nyjacky is as good as Froggen."

Within the past two weeks or so, I'd say that it honestly isn't too much of a stretch.

Personally ive thought Froggen was over rated for a long time, always been a big jacky/jiji fan though

You can't overrate Froggen in any way. He was a whole class above the US APs for a long time. Looks like Nyjacky has caught up though.
The legend of Darien lives on
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 03:58:53
July 24 2012 03:58 GMT
#1012
isn't that screenshot from the game where jacky went 2-0-2 in the level 1 teamfight? I didn't see the others/the end so I don't know, but if so let's not overhype...
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 04:01:31
July 24 2012 03:59 GMT
#1013
Froggen makes some flat out awesome plays but the last game I saw him play in a tournament he made some huge mistakes (whatever tourney TSM won over CLG NA). I still think hes top 3 no questions asked though I don't think the gap was ever as big as people hyped it to be. It would be cool to see him on a team that he doesn't have to carry as hard on, it seems at times he IS the team.
Never Knows Best.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 24 2012 04:00 GMT
#1014
On July 24 2012 12:57 MooMooMugi wrote:
Zyra looks like a really cool&fun champ to play O_O

Soniv I bet you excited to own noobs with this in ranked son!


Brobro, bitches ain't gon' know what's coming
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 04:02:15
July 24 2012 04:00 GMT
#1015
On July 24 2012 12:58 UniversalSnip wrote:
isn't that screenshot from the game where jacky went 2-0-2 in the level 1 teamfight? I didn't see the others/the end so I don't know, but if so let's not overhype...


Still pretty impressive...



On July 24 2012 12:57 MooMooMugi wrote:
Zyra looks like a really cool&fun champ to play O_O

Soniv I bet you excited to own noobs with this in ranked son!


The way I see it, Zyra's Q has the same delay as Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q, except the radius is 3 times as big... on a moderate cooldown, too. I don't see how that is not OP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 24 2012 04:02 GMT
#1016
On July 24 2012 13:00 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:58 UniversalSnip wrote:
isn't that screenshot from the game where jacky went 2-0-2 in the level 1 teamfight? I didn't see the others/the end so I don't know, but if so let's not overhype...


Still pretty impressive...


not really
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
July 24 2012 04:03 GMT
#1017
Does anyone have a EUW/EUNE account on low Elo (800-1300) that they want boosted to a higher elo (basically any Elo you want below 1600), cuz I'm really bored and I feel like stomping noobs in ranked. PM me.
wat
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2012 04:03 GMT
#1018
On July 24 2012 12:59 Slaughter wrote:
Froggen makes some flat out awesome plays but the last game I saw him play in a tournament he made some huge mistakes (whatever tourney TSM won over CLG NA). I still think hes top 3 no questions asked though I don't think the gap was ever as big as people hyped it to be. It would be cool to see him on a team that he doesn't have to carry as hard on, it seems at times he IS the team.


He basiaclly made anivia permaban status though for a while, so thats something.
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 24 2012 04:08 GMT
#1019
On July 24 2012 13:00 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:58 UniversalSnip wrote:
isn't that screenshot from the game where jacky went 2-0-2 in the level 1 teamfight? I didn't see the others/the end so I don't know, but if so let's not overhype...


Still pretty impressive...



Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:57 MooMooMugi wrote:
Zyra looks like a really cool&fun champ to play O_O

Soniv I bet you excited to own noobs with this in ranked son!


The way I see it, Zyra's Q has the same delay as Karthus's Q and Cassiopeia's Q, except the radius is 3 times as big... on a moderate cooldown, too. I don't see how that is not OP.

The AP ratio is only 0.6 and the cd is relatively long compared to Karthus and Cassio Q.

TBH, most of her kit looks kinda meh to me, except for that ult. Dat radius is freaking huge O_O
Logrus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 04:14:44
July 24 2012 04:10 GMT
#1020
On July 24 2012 12:55 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 12:54 Logrus wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:41 HazMat wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:39 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:34 HazMat wrote:
On July 24 2012 11:33 koreasilver wrote:
It only rounds to make it look pretty on your screen. In actuality, nothing rounds.

fuu, 6 flat AD reds and one flat AD blue gets me to 9.9 lol. Guess I'll put 1 scaling AD.


Is this for akali? You actually only need 9.5, they changed so people wouldn't run into exactly this problem.

Was working on a jungle Lee page. I ended up going 18 apen 5.1 ad.


If you're really anal about reaching whole number breakpoints with your runes (like I am) you might be interested and disappointed to know that three arpen reds at 1.66 each give you 4.98 arpen and not 5 -.-

I run five reds for 8.3 arpen

and then i go four ad reds + three quints which gives you 10.55 AD... it'll say 11 on ur runepage and 10 in game
so I added two flat ad blues at .28 each to get to 11.11 AD

then of course i have only seven slots for blues but seven flat mr blues gives 9.38mr plus one mr yellow is .7x so I'm okay with just over 10mr

but now i have only 8 slots for yellow you say?

WELL full armor yellows at 1.41 don't actually give you 13 armor it gives you 12.69 ... eight of them gives 11.28 ... so basically I run only eight armor yellows on everyone now

SO IT ALL WORKS OUT


You ARE aware that every decimal worth of stats counts, right?


yeah I understand totally, like I said I do it cuz I'm anal about it, not cuz I think it's a good idea :D

Altho I will say that having whole number stats instead of ambiguous decimal values makes in game on the fly mental math easier and makes me feel more comfortable.

Personally I think it would be extremely helpful for riot to tweak ALL rune values so that they're neater. When they semi-recently nerfed flat mr runes I noticed they made life easier for everyone by making the value of a blue 1.34 instead of 1.33 meaning they give you 4.02 mr in groups of three and not 3.99... and a full set of mr blues gives 12.06 instead of 11.97

like flat AD reds give .95 each... a full set give 8.55
I'd rather they nerf them to 8 or buff them to 9... 8.55 doesn't help anyone (flat ad yellow gives .43... couldn't this be .45 so i can use one to get to 9 ad? needs to give me 8.98 ad? seriously? riot pls)

on my AP pages for a while I ran nine mpen for 8.55 + one mpen blue at .68 to get over 9 cuz 8.55 bugs me... I've recently switched to eight mpen and one dual pen red which gives me 8mpen and 1arpen
"Down, down into the pile, into the great slag heap, window onto the ends of time and space, where nothing is to be seen at the end, I went, between walls forever afire, never burnt down..." -Merlin, Prince of Chaos
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