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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 27 2012 22:15 GMT
#441
Really I'm just mad at how horrible of a player I am and I have some kind of overprotective defense mechanism which makes me think it's other people.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 23:10:32
July 27 2012 23:08 GMT
#442
Don't blacklist 5HITCOMBO, or please, don't stop playing in-houses. I always took good advice from you, since when you started with that funny thing called Wraith-jacking. You should wear a disclaimer for "tough-love" or something and it should be fine for newer players.

To be fair, I (I was Varus) started killing Anivia and did not even thought Milo had DC, so I'm partially to blame there.
Shadow of his former self.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 28 2012 02:32 GMT
#443
Man, I love you guys, and I'm sorry I don't control myself better
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 28 2012 03:08 GMT
#444
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
July 28 2012 03:09 GMT
#445
i'm so confused T_T
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 28 2012 03:14 GMT
#446
Bamilus just told me to go kill myself and that i don't know anything about this game because i picked jungle ezreal and couldn't out-gank a jungle alistar. SERIOUSLY? And people talk to me about being a rager?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
July 28 2012 03:19 GMT
#447
Barackopala here:

-Woah... you want to blacklist 5hit? it's blatantly stupid, we all know we kind of like get a bit trolly from time to time, what can I say, it's an inhouse, not ranked or stuff, plus I beleive there were some big insults from other guys in the game (one of them telling him to kill himself and stuff).

¿Really guys? You're acting like a group of reddit witch-hunters, turn off your torches and lay down your pitchforks, we're not a big training group and you're just complaining about just ONE match that ONE guy dropped the ball off early game, you're not going to lose ELO or skill.


Barackopala
Nehsb
Profile Joined May 2009
United States380 Posts
July 28 2012 03:21 GMT
#448
On July 28 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.


This is how it went:

stxz wants to play ad tf
stxz is like "ok nehsb go support me" (stxz knows that I suck at support)
I end up playing support taric (which I play have played very little recently)
I end up going for really bad stuns and end up with 200 hp/100 mana t level 2
you go overagressive because i have low hp and end up dying
lane snowballs out of control

Sorry for picking taric, and snowballing the lane afterwards, but it was by no means intended to be some tryhard lane to stomp you.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 28 2012 03:27 GMT
#449
On July 28 2012 12:21 Nehsb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.


This is how it went:

stxz wants to play ad tf
stxz is like "ok nehsb go support me" (stxz knows that I suck at support)
I end up playing support taric (which I play have played very little recently)
I end up going for really bad stuns and end up with 200 hp/100 mana t level 2
you go overagressive because i have low hp and end up dying
lane snowballs out of control

Sorry for picking taric, and snowballing the lane afterwards, but it was by no means intended to be some tryhard lane to stomp you.


Here's a suggestion. Spend an entire game staring at the rez timer. See how much that 25 minutes helps your play. I got 5 bucks says all it does is make you think certain things are a waste of time, rather than... oh, I don't know... practice?
Nehsb
Profile Joined May 2009
United States380 Posts
July 28 2012 03:50 GMT
#450
On July 28 2012 12:27 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 12:21 Nehsb wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.


This is how it went:

stxz wants to play ad tf
stxz is like "ok nehsb go support me" (stxz knows that I suck at support)
I end up playing support taric (which I play have played very little recently)
I end up going for really bad stuns and end up with 200 hp/100 mana t level 2
you go overagressive because i have low hp and end up dying
lane snowballs out of control

Sorry for picking taric, and snowballing the lane afterwards, but it was by no means intended to be some tryhard lane to stomp you.


Here's a suggestion. Spend an entire game staring at the rez timer. See how much that 25 minutes helps your play. I got 5 bucks says all it does is make you think certain things are a waste of time, rather than... oh, I don't know... practice?


As I said, sorry for snowballing the lane after the initial advantage instead of say, helping mid. But it's more of a "we can kill people, and I like kills" and not thinking about how it's an inhouse rather than intentionally tryharding and picking a stomp lane.
OxyFuel
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada195 Posts
July 28 2012 21:54 GMT
#451
Summoner Name: Gentle08
ELO: Only level 18
Preferred Role(s): Anything, prefer Jungle
Schedule: Pretty Random.. usually only weekends though
Flash | Boxer | qxc | KawaiiRice | LuckyFool | Avilo
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 28 2012 22:00 GMT
#452
On July 28 2012 12:27 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 12:21 Nehsb wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.


This is how it went:

stxz wants to play ad tf
stxz is like "ok nehsb go support me" (stxz knows that I suck at support)
I end up playing support taric (which I play have played very little recently)
I end up going for really bad stuns and end up with 200 hp/100 mana t level 2
you go overagressive because i have low hp and end up dying
lane snowballs out of control

Sorry for picking taric, and snowballing the lane afterwards, but it was by no means intended to be some tryhard lane to stomp you.


Here's a suggestion. Spend an entire game staring at the rez timer. See how much that 25 minutes helps your play. I got 5 bucks says all it does is make you think certain things are a waste of time, rather than... oh, I don't know... practice?

Wait, you're BITCHING at Nehsb for making correct plays on a champion/role that he never plays?
Moderator
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 28 2012 22:04 GMT
#453
On July 29 2012 07:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 12:27 JingleHell wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:21 Nehsb wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.


This is how it went:

stxz wants to play ad tf
stxz is like "ok nehsb go support me" (stxz knows that I suck at support)
I end up playing support taric (which I play have played very little recently)
I end up going for really bad stuns and end up with 200 hp/100 mana t level 2
you go overagressive because i have low hp and end up dying
lane snowballs out of control

Sorry for picking taric, and snowballing the lane afterwards, but it was by no means intended to be some tryhard lane to stomp you.


Here's a suggestion. Spend an entire game staring at the rez timer. See how much that 25 minutes helps your play. I got 5 bucks says all it does is make you think certain things are a waste of time, rather than... oh, I don't know... practice?

Wait, you're BITCHING at Nehsb for making correct plays on a champion/role that he never plays?


No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 28 2012 22:25 GMT
#454
On July 29 2012 07:04 JingleHell wrote:
No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?

I don't understand what you mean by "above and beyond the call of practice". I'd expect players in an inhouse to play hard and do what they believe to be the correct play. If staying in lane and killing you was in fact giving up objectives and not advantageous--and simply done out of spite, then I would object. But generally speaking, suppressing an AD carry's farm bot lane is not exactly a bad play under most circumstances. As an AD player, the onus is on you to find ways to get farm elsewhere, not keep coming back to lane and expect people to baby you by leaving the lane.
Moderator
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 28 2012 22:47 GMT
#455
On July 29 2012 07:25 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:04 JingleHell wrote:
No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?

I don't understand what you mean by "above and beyond the call of practice". I'd expect players in an inhouse to play hard and do what they believe to be the correct play. If staying in lane and killing you was in fact giving up objectives and not advantageous--and simply done out of spite, then I would object. But generally speaking, suppressing an AD carry's farm bot lane is not exactly a bad play under most circumstances. As an AD player, the onus is on you to find ways to get farm elsewhere, not keep coming back to lane and expect people to baby you by leaving the lane.


If you actually go back and read, even Nehsb admits they went over the top on me, so it sounds like you're just another one of the asshats who wants anybody who isn't cool like you to go back to the solo queue. Which is what I'm damn near coming to, because spending 25 minutes padding someone's K/D is not fun, and it is not practice. There's a difference between making me work for it, punishing mistakes, and making people not want to play. If you can't see the difference, I'm not going to waste my time breaking out an explanation simple enough for you.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
July 28 2012 22:54 GMT
#456
On July 29 2012 07:47 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:25 TheYango wrote:
On July 29 2012 07:04 JingleHell wrote:
No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?

I don't understand what you mean by "above and beyond the call of practice". I'd expect players in an inhouse to play hard and do what they believe to be the correct play. If staying in lane and killing you was in fact giving up objectives and not advantageous--and simply done out of spite, then I would object. But generally speaking, suppressing an AD carry's farm bot lane is not exactly a bad play under most circumstances. As an AD player, the onus is on you to find ways to get farm elsewhere, not keep coming back to lane and expect people to baby you by leaving the lane.


If you actually go back and read, even Nehsb admits they went over the top on me, so it sounds like you're just another one of the asshats who wants anybody who isn't cool like you to go back to the solo queue. Which is what I'm damn near coming to, because spending 25 minutes padding someone's K/D is not fun, and it is not practice. There's a difference between making me work for it, punishing mistakes, and making people not want to play. If you can't see the difference, I'm not going to waste my time breaking out an explanation simple enough for you.


what you're basically saying is you want people to go easy on you lol...
TranslatorBaa!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 22:57 GMT
#457
On July 29 2012 07:04 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:00 TheYango wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:27 JingleHell wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:21 Nehsb wrote:
On July 28 2012 12:08 JingleHell wrote:
Are Friday nights always this bad? If you don't know why I'm asking, you probably don't want to.


This is how it went:

stxz wants to play ad tf
stxz is like "ok nehsb go support me" (stxz knows that I suck at support)
I end up playing support taric (which I play have played very little recently)
I end up going for really bad stuns and end up with 200 hp/100 mana t level 2
you go overagressive because i have low hp and end up dying
lane snowballs out of control

Sorry for picking taric, and snowballing the lane afterwards, but it was by no means intended to be some tryhard lane to stomp you.


Here's a suggestion. Spend an entire game staring at the rez timer. See how much that 25 minutes helps your play. I got 5 bucks says all it does is make you think certain things are a waste of time, rather than... oh, I don't know... practice?

Wait, you're BITCHING at Nehsb for making correct plays on a champion/role that he never plays?


No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?

I laughed.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 28 2012 22:59 GMT
#458
On July 29 2012 07:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:47 JingleHell wrote:
On July 29 2012 07:25 TheYango wrote:
On July 29 2012 07:04 JingleHell wrote:
No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?

I don't understand what you mean by "above and beyond the call of practice". I'd expect players in an inhouse to play hard and do what they believe to be the correct play. If staying in lane and killing you was in fact giving up objectives and not advantageous--and simply done out of spite, then I would object. But generally speaking, suppressing an AD carry's farm bot lane is not exactly a bad play under most circumstances. As an AD player, the onus is on you to find ways to get farm elsewhere, not keep coming back to lane and expect people to baby you by leaving the lane.


If you actually go back and read, even Nehsb admits they went over the top on me, so it sounds like you're just another one of the asshats who wants anybody who isn't cool like you to go back to the solo queue. Which is what I'm damn near coming to, because spending 25 minutes padding someone's K/D is not fun, and it is not practice. There's a difference between making me work for it, punishing mistakes, and making people not want to play. If you can't see the difference, I'm not going to waste my time breaking out an explanation simple enough for you.


what you're basically saying is you want people to go easy on you lol...


In a theoretically friendly game, when everyone knows who's actually better and there's literally nothing at stake? Yes, I'd appreciate if people went easy enough on me that I got to see a creep somewhere besides the minimap. If you think that's asking too much, I clearly got the wrong impression from WaveofShadow's blog talking about LiquidPractice, since I was under the impression it's supposed to be fun and friendly. If people want bad players to say "Fuck this, the TL LoL community sucks", that's fine. Just have the decency not to try and make it out to be people crying, when they actually just bought into the marketing hype.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 28 2012 23:06 GMT
#459
I sort of agree with JingleHell.... as much as I hate to admit it. He's obviously one of the weaker players that participates in these games. You should still punish him for his mistakes but after 3 or 4 kills on him try to do other things than just kill him. It makes it frustrating for the other players as much as for Jingle when people just dive bot 24/7 feeding off of Jingle.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 23:11:27
July 28 2012 23:10 GMT
#460
On July 29 2012 07:59 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 07:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 29 2012 07:47 JingleHell wrote:
On July 29 2012 07:25 TheYango wrote:
On July 29 2012 07:04 JingleHell wrote:
No, I'm annoyed that they went above and beyond the call of practice match to make sure that if I tried to come within sight range of my own turret after rezzing, that I died before I even saw a creep wave. Are you actually suggesting that that qualifies as good fun or practice?

Or is 0-14-1 with less than 30 CS all game and 4 levels behind their entire team at the 10 minute mark all in good fun?

I don't understand what you mean by "above and beyond the call of practice". I'd expect players in an inhouse to play hard and do what they believe to be the correct play. If staying in lane and killing you was in fact giving up objectives and not advantageous--and simply done out of spite, then I would object. But generally speaking, suppressing an AD carry's farm bot lane is not exactly a bad play under most circumstances. As an AD player, the onus is on you to find ways to get farm elsewhere, not keep coming back to lane and expect people to baby you by leaving the lane.


If you actually go back and read, even Nehsb admits they went over the top on me, so it sounds like you're just another one of the asshats who wants anybody who isn't cool like you to go back to the solo queue. Which is what I'm damn near coming to, because spending 25 minutes padding someone's K/D is not fun, and it is not practice. There's a difference between making me work for it, punishing mistakes, and making people not want to play. If you can't see the difference, I'm not going to waste my time breaking out an explanation simple enough for you.


what you're basically saying is you want people to go easy on you lol...


In a theoretically friendly game, when everyone knows who's actually better and there's literally nothing at stake? Yes, I'd appreciate if people went easy enough on me that I got to see a creep somewhere besides the minimap. If you think that's asking too much, I clearly got the wrong impression from WaveofShadow's blog talking about LiquidPractice, since I was under the impression it's supposed to be fun and friendly. If people want bad players to say "Fuck this, the TL LoL community sucks", that's fine. Just have the decency not to try and make it out to be people crying, when they actually just bought into the marketing hype.


I've played with and against you and I know where you're coming from -- but honestly, you can't expect the opposing bottom lane to just let you do whatever you want -- otherwise it's not fair to them, who also came to practice. If that's the case, then maybe make it clear before the game starts that you are extremely inexperienced and would like an equally matched lane, or for someone to voluntarily go very easy on you. I remember laning vs you one time, and due to previous experience I knew after 5-6 kills that I should let you farm up so you get a better late-game experience, and help my team around the map (at that point I was kind of fed though, so it's still an issue).

Yes, this is supposed to be a fun and friendly group, but you have to keep in mind almost everyone is coming to practice and improve, and the only way to get around large skill discrepancies are to choose lanes and match them as best as possible (skill-wise) in the group lobby. Otherwise this is always going to happen, and it isn't effective for learning unless the winning lane pays a lot of attention to the losing one's POV and gives them feedback.
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