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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
July 10 2012 21:38 GMT
#921
On July 11 2012 06:32 Slayer91 wrote:
Naturally, since once you've used bloodbloil consume isn't useful ult is on cd all you CAN do is snowball their ad.


Which is the whole point. Support nunu does minimally less than a jungle nunu in a teamfight because nunu's usefulness is largely in utility with his attackspeed/ms slows and bb, not in the damage he can do.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 21:41:41
July 10 2012 21:39 GMT
#922
Because eves old ult was one of the more powerful ults in the game for what it did. If you got rolling, you werent dying. People forget how good it was just cuz the rest of the character sucked.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 21:40:56
July 10 2012 21:39 GMT
#923
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 10 2012 21:45 GMT
#924
On July 11 2012 02:27 Vaporized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 02:20 JBright wrote:
On July 11 2012 02:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 11 2012 01:48 MooMooMugi wrote:
Nyjacky also derps real hard on Saint's calls it was painfully obvious when they scrimmed Polbelter's new team last night, he also called Jacky 'Jiji' at one point LOL


Who's on Pobelter's new team?


Isn't that Atlanta's team?

atlanta was on the team and someone who they were saying was teddyRO with a name change (he was 2600+). idont remember the other 2 dudes.

Lol. Lightsludge isn't teddyro. Teddyro is rager baddie stuck at 2k, not big pro rank 1 player like lightsludge.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 21:48:46
July 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#925
lol

Eve stealth = Smoke of Deceit

Honestly, the only help I think she needed was reverting her base stat nerfs so she could jungle.
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 21:48:30
July 10 2012 21:47 GMT
#926
eve passive = smoke of deceit
:o
looks to be effective
omg i h8 u
Hey! Listen!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 10 2012 21:50 GMT
#927
On a side note, let me just say that from actually testing new Eve from multiple angles I think Eve actually feels alright to play against now. No more rage desk flips.

You guys have no idea how rage inducing the earlier iterations were oh my fk'ing god. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 10 2012 21:51 GMT
#928
Where is Xizor, his redemption awaits!
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 10 2012 21:51 GMT
#929
On July 11 2012 06:50 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On a side note, let me just say that from actually testing new Eve from multiple angles I think Eve actually feels alright to play against now. No more rage desk flips.

You guys have no idea how rage inducing the earlier iterations were oh my fk'ing god. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I heard Xypherous wasn't allowed in the same room as the stealth changes because they didn't want Eve to be new instaban
It's your boy Guzma!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
July 10 2012 21:54 GMT
#930
On July 10 2012 23:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 23:25 Zdrastochye wrote:
Now that there's 100 champs I really do think some of them should be phased out from ranked, especially if they aren't going to fix them (stealthies I'm looking at you *coughEvecough*). It's fun to play stuff that people don't play and find out it's strong, but eventually enough is enough. I can't think of a system to keep the number of champions in check, but eventually it gets to be impossible to have a competitive format for a game that's moving away from fair play. I mean, I know they cater to the masses which is the smart business decision, without entirely ignoring their pro scene in terms of balancing champions, but there is a number of champions at which it gets quite ridiculous. Should you have to account for something like 250 champions in a competitive scene? I hope that isn't true. I guess I have no solution for the problem that wouldn't be seen as overly dramatic, but I worry what will happen as the rift between appealing to casuals and taking care of pros becomes too large.

well considerin how DotA still has more heroes than LoL has champions and the DotA scene is still going very strong and it's a pretty darn well balanced game, I don't think we have to worry about the "too many champions" problem yet, balance-wise anyways. I will say that I'm a little worried that Riot may be recycling some concepts because they're scared of creating and releasin "anti-fun" mechanics tho.

Riot has stated numerous times that they will slow down (mebbe eventually stop?) making champions as the pool increases. They've already begun to slow champion releases a little bit (it's no longer every two weeks like clockwork; we get 3 week "breaks" now and then).


A big problem when I look at League champions, especially comparing them to DotA heroes is that they feel more... generalized and less refined. Sure, you have some who really have a unique feel to them (Cass, Jarvan, Ezreal come to mind) but the champions seem designed for roles and purposes which leads to them feeling rather similar. Ranged AD carries are probably the role where this symptom shows the most.

I would rather like to see that Riot spends some time ironing out this stuff instead of releasing new champions. Besides that, there are lots of small things which really need some attention at the moment (items, maybe map layout and objectives) to refine the gameplay.

Right now it's a good basis but to me it feels that League is still very raw (mostly due to its young age) and could be a much better game with comparatively minor tweaks. Finding out which those tweaks should be is a real challenge though so I don't blame Riot too much.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 21:59:58
July 10 2012 21:59 GMT
#931
On July 11 2012 06:28 Sufficiency wrote:
zomg Stealth Remake. LOLz....

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/interesting-reds/20902-stealth-rework-final-iterations-and-testing


LOL. Right when I talk about small stuff like this.

gj riot, that eve passive = smoke of deceit thing is perfectly fine and probably the best thing they could have come up with. Now I'm eagerly awaiting a change to how wards work. :>


PS: Please don't make twitch fotm. Please don't make twitch fotm. Please don't make twitch fotm.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 10 2012 21:59 GMT
#932
Is the general consensus within the LoL community that Ahri loses to Ryze? I seem to be getting a lot of "pick ryze against that ahri" statements in ranked. May be just the ELO though.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 10 2012 22:00 GMT
#933
Hopefully they'll give twitch a better attack animation and longer range -_-
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 22:01:51
July 10 2012 22:01 GMT
#934
On July 11 2012 06:51 Slusher wrote:
Where is Xizor, his redemption awaits!

New eve can't do any of the things i suggested because her passive is changing.

this was coming for over a year it's about time.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
July 10 2012 22:01 GMT
#935
On July 11 2012 06:59 Nos- wrote:
Is the general consensus within the LoL community that Ahri loses to Ryze? I seem to be getting a lot of "pick ryze against that ahri" statements in ranked. May be just the ELO though.

His snare is powerful vs her mobility and he outscales her. Once you have ult, when she pushes lane and leaves to gank, you use ult and follow her. Ryze is just a strong mage and Ahri can't shut him down very well.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 10 2012 22:03 GMT
#936
On July 11 2012 06:39 Two_DoWn wrote:
Because eves old ult was one of the more powerful ults in the game for what it did. If you got rolling, you werent dying. People forget how good it was just cuz the rest of the character sucked.

Well, yes, but that new ult sounds lame. They made her QWE less snowbally, which could have easily been enough to make her ult just fine.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
July 10 2012 22:12 GMT
#937
On July 11 2012 06:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T


This is actually a good idea. I should do that more often as Janna. It will probably improve my reaction time.

I hold down tilde ("~") when casting abilities on allies where it could cast on a minion inadvertently. I've gotten very used to it on Soraka. Portrait usage is hugely inefficient.
twitch.tv/cratonz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 10 2012 22:12 GMT
#938
Finally.
FINALLY.
I CAN PLAY EVE AGAINNNNNNN
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 10 2012 22:18 GMT
#939
On July 11 2012 06:59 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 06:28 Sufficiency wrote:
zomg Stealth Remake. LOLz....

http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/interesting-reds/20902-stealth-rework-final-iterations-and-testing


LOL. Right when I talk about small stuff like this.

gj riot, that eve passive = smoke of deceit thing is perfectly fine and probably the best thing they could have come up with. Now I'm eagerly awaiting a change to how wards work. :>


PS: Please don't make twitch fotm. Please don't make twitch fotm. Please don't make twitch fotm.


Morello is saying that Evelynn will be a jungler because of the Hate Spike buff. I think she might work well as AP mid, lol.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 10 2012 22:19 GMT
#940
On July 11 2012 07:12 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 06:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On July 11 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T


This is actually a good idea. I should do that more often as Janna. It will probably improve my reaction time.

I hold down tilde ("~") when casting abilities on allies where it could cast on a minion inadvertently. I've gotten very used to it on Soraka. Portrait usage is hugely inefficient.


But it also allows me to not follow the ad carry 24/7 with my mouse cursor.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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