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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 10 2012 19:54 GMT
#881
On July 11 2012 04:52 WirelessWaffle wrote:
jungle nunu kinda terrifying. Your AD = 2.5AS their AD < 1AS guess which team wins lol

That part isn't exclusive to jungle Nunu.
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Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
July 10 2012 19:55 GMT
#882
yeah but he gets to build tankier so he can actually do it and not instadie in a teamfight.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 10 2012 19:55 GMT
#883
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T
It's your boy Guzma!
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 10 2012 19:56 GMT
#884
On July 11 2012 04:19 Vaporized wrote:
westrice was definetly the weak link last night. he just seems much more comfortable in solo que then when he has to play as part of a team. he had seemingly no sense of working as a team, and saint berating him didnt seem to be helping. he also didnt seem to handle the 1v2 nature of top lane very well at all.

crs bot lane looked pretty strong, elementz made a couple really nice plays, and cop was dominant in every game i watched. he carried so hard. jacky is jacky, seems to be solid whenever i watch him play. and his veigar is ridiculous. saint is a bit hot or cold but he is pretty good regardless.

they did not seem real focused tho. that is right on. when tsm scrims or plays together they seem like a MUCH more cohesive team, that actually works together. crs looked like a bunch of guys who had no idea what the others would do. they won cuz cop carried them so hard.


I don't think it's really that fair to compare crs to tsm at the moment. Remember, tsm has been playing together for a little over a year now, whereas this current crs iteration has only had (i think) 2 months. Not to mention they have completely reworked the power structure on crs's team, having sv fill a power vacuum that had existed for some time. I think ppl just need to give them some time.
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samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
July 10 2012 19:56 GMT
#885
Ok so i jungle alot but was thinking about new styles and stuff and was thinking rumble is secret op top but why not jungle has strong aoe to clear camps has a gap closer does tons of dmg.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 10 2012 19:57 GMT
#886
On July 11 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T


I've gotten in the habit of slow casting super important abilities (ie: non damage abilities, heal, infuse, walls, etc.) that require 100% precision. I've noticed a remarkable reduction in McLaren walls as a result.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
July 10 2012 20:02 GMT
#887
On July 10 2012 14:00 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 13:33 TheYango wrote:
On July 10 2012 13:22 obesechicken13 wrote:
I don't think either warwick or nunu are really representative of what a jungler should be. Neither has good ganks at early levels. In fact without red on Warwick, you normally don't have any CC. Nunu has his E, so he at least can gank early on (but in my experience he lacks damage). I also feel like nunu needs to counterjungle to be effective. There's no such thing as a perfect jungler to get started with. Both warwick and nunu are fine because they have an easy time sustaining themselves in the jungle and they aren't reliant on blue buff so they don't suffer from getting invaded. Most new junglers are concerned they won't be able to sustain themselves. Other sustainy junglers include trundle and I think cho'gath to a degree. Sion sustains his health quite well throughout but his shield and ult cost quite a bit of mana.

I personally ended up trying all sorts of junglers, jungling everything I could get. We jungle enthusiasts have all probably jungled heimer before (in a bot game?). I think my first junglers were nunu and sion, but then I transitioned to kayle and nothing else has been as interesting.

lol

Snowball+Blood Boil ganks not good enough apparently.


huehuehue

Reason why Nunu and WW are suggested is because they have top notch sustain and good ganks. Not sure in what world you're on obesechickn13, that you would suggest Trundle, Cho and even Sion over the previously mentioned two.

I dunno, I felt sion ganks were stronger than nunu ganks.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 10 2012 20:10 GMT
#888
On July 11 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T

There's also the option of using that champ-only-cast key.
I never actually used it though. No portraits either. I'm proud of my misclicks!
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Highwayman
Profile Joined March 2010
United States181 Posts
July 10 2012 20:18 GMT
#889
On July 11 2012 04:19 Vaporized wrote:
westrice was definetly the weak link last night. he just seems much more comfortable in solo que then when he has to play as part of a team. he had seemingly no sense of working as a team, and saint berating him didnt seem to be helping. he also didnt seem to handle the 1v2 nature of top lane very well at all.

crs bot lane looked pretty strong, elementz made a couple really nice plays, and cop was dominant in every game i watched. he carried so hard. jacky is jacky, seems to be solid whenever i watch him play. and his veigar is ridiculous. saint is a bit hot or cold but he is pretty good regardless.

they did not seem real focused tho. that is right on. when tsm scrims or plays together they seem like a MUCH more cohesive team, that actually works together. crs looked like a bunch of guys who had no idea what the others would do. they won cuz cop carried them so hard.


Well for one TSM is definitely a better team, but that could change quickly and the difference isn't huge from what I've seen. If you were to compare Curse with TSM and take the top lane out of the picture, I like Curse to be honest. I think Westrice is a huge liability, while Dyrus is just solid in his play and for team cohesiveness. The success of Curse will depend completely on how they manage that liability. If Westrice can manage to play more conservative and think about winning games as a team on a macro level and making the safe play, I think they will be really good. Unfortunately right now he has a tendancy to feed because he gets tunnel vision trying to do more than he needs to and taking unnecessary risks. They don't need him to win games. They just need him not to lose them.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 10 2012 20:22 GMT
#890
On July 11 2012 05:10 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T

There's also the option of using that champ-only-cast key.
I never actually used it though. No portraits either. I'm proud of my misclicks!

My champ-only cast key is `, same as my Vent button :\

I should probably just change it. It's led to some lost CS time and time again.
It's your boy Guzma!
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
July 10 2012 20:23 GMT
#891
On July 11 2012 05:18 Highwayman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:19 Vaporized wrote:
westrice was definetly the weak link last night. he just seems much more comfortable in solo que then when he has to play as part of a team. he had seemingly no sense of working as a team, and saint berating him didnt seem to be helping. he also didnt seem to handle the 1v2 nature of top lane very well at all.

crs bot lane looked pretty strong, elementz made a couple really nice plays, and cop was dominant in every game i watched. he carried so hard. jacky is jacky, seems to be solid whenever i watch him play. and his veigar is ridiculous. saint is a bit hot or cold but he is pretty good regardless.

they did not seem real focused tho. that is right on. when tsm scrims or plays together they seem like a MUCH more cohesive team, that actually works together. crs looked like a bunch of guys who had no idea what the others would do. they won cuz cop carried them so hard.


Well for one TSM is definitely a better team, but that could change quickly and the difference isn't huge from what I've seen. If you were to compare Curse with TSM and take the top lane out of the picture, I like Curse to be honest. I think Westrice is a huge liability, while Dyrus is just solid in his play and for team cohesiveness. The success of Curse will depend completely on how they manage that liability. If Westrice can manage to play more conservative and think about winning games as a team on a macro level and making the safe play, I think they will be really good. Unfortunately right now he has a tendancy to feed because he gets tunnel vision trying to do more than he needs to and taking unnecessary risks. They don't need him to win games. They just need him not to lose them.


I've never seen Dyrus come close to beating Westrice top lane. Last time TSM played vs Curse Dyrus fed like 0-5 with OddOne ganking for him and SaintVicious farming the jungle lol.

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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
July 10 2012 20:26 GMT
#892
I generally click on the champion and not the portrait but I've done both and I've made mistakes. I think everyone at one time or another has given mana to a minion or bloodboiled that pesky melee minion. You get better at it the more you do it.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 10 2012 20:32 GMT
#893
On July 11 2012 05:22 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 05:10 spinesheath wrote:
On July 11 2012 04:55 Requizen wrote:
So when using support abilities with smartcast, do you hover over the ally model or do you use their portrait? I almost always try to use the portrait now, ever since I healed that tank minion and killed my Ezreal as Soraka T.T

There's also the option of using that champ-only-cast key.
I never actually used it though. No portraits either. I'm proud of my misclicks!

My champ-only cast key is `, same as my Vent button :\

I should probably just change it. It's led to some lost CS time and time again.

Mine is caps lock. I always sound like an asshole.
I ain't even mad.
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seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
July 10 2012 20:32 GMT
#894
On July 11 2012 04:56 samthesaluki wrote:
Ok so i jungle alot but was thinking about new styles and stuff and was thinking rumble is secret op top but why not jungle has strong aoe to clear camps has a gap closer does tons of dmg.


Don't forget your triforce.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 10 2012 20:38 GMT
#895
On July 11 2012 05:32 seanisgrand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:56 samthesaluki wrote:
Ok so i jungle alot but was thinking about new styles and stuff and was thinking rumble is secret op top but why not jungle has strong aoe to clear camps has a gap closer does tons of dmg.


Don't forget your triforce.


gotta use rumble in the jungle skin obv
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 10 2012 20:44 GMT
#896
On July 11 2012 04:56 samthesaluki wrote:
Ok so i jungle alot but was thinking about new styles and stuff and was thinking rumble is secret op top but why not jungle has strong aoe to clear camps has a gap closer does tons of dmg.

He's good at jungling, but his general need for farm and how well he does with farm doesn't match up with the typical amount of farm you'd expect for a jungler.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23395 Posts
July 10 2012 20:46 GMT
#897
He needs levels too much also, junglers have to build tanky to make up for the level disadvantage which hurts your damage as well as your spell ranks. Rumble benefits a lot from all his spell ranks so it's important to solo lane him.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 10 2012 20:49 GMT
#898
On July 11 2012 04:49 Alzadar wrote:
I find Headbutt-Pulverize is pretty easy to do from max range and I can get it almost 100%, but when you're closer than the max range of Headbutt the timing gets trickier and I can never Q fast enough.

Generally I just pick Taric because there's no risk of missing a combo.

I see a lot of people W the target, then walk to them and Q for 2 (mini)stuns, not sure how they do it without their target escaping. Like even when there's no wall.
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VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
July 10 2012 20:52 GMT
#899
On July 11 2012 05:49 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:49 Alzadar wrote:
I find Headbutt-Pulverize is pretty easy to do from max range and I can get it almost 100%, but when you're closer than the max range of Headbutt the timing gets trickier and I can never Q fast enough.

Generally I just pick Taric because there's no risk of missing a combo.

I see a lot of people W the target, then walk to them and Q for 2 (mini)stuns, not sure how they do it without their target escaping. Like even when there's no wall.

I like to Q, get behind them, and then W them to my team in an ideal situation.


If not, I like the Miss-the-Q-into-popping-my-ulti-because-now-im-super-out-of-position-and-dying-slowly combo. It's rather effective.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23395 Posts
July 10 2012 20:53 GMT
#900
On July 11 2012 04:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:52 WirelessWaffle wrote:
jungle nunu kinda terrifying. Your AD = 2.5AS their AD < 1AS guess which team wins lol

That part isn't exclusive to jungle Nunu.


Support nunu isn't going to have the tankiness to get that close though.
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