
[Patch 1.0.0.142: Jayce] General Discussion - Page 49
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 11 2012 08:49 Alaric wrote: Is that why you told us nobody knows how to build him right but didn't drop a single hint on the subject? ![]() He builds HoG in almost every game, and frozen heart/shureliya's in most games. He also gets a negatron item and merc treads pretty consistently | ||
sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 10 2012 21:09 Shadowpostin wrote: Here are some of my thoughts on this rune page discussion. There are relatively a lot of champions that people say need specific rune pages,but you can honestly get 5 rune pages that will cover pretty much almost every champion in the game. For instance I see a lot of people use a separate rune page for maokai(ap quints and all that jazz),but you can really get away with a generic udyr(phoenix) rune page on maokai and it works just as well(yes you can do a wraith start without ap quints). I think that if you get 4-5 rune pages and get the following rune setup you are pretty set. A jungle ms/as page (MS quints,AS reds,armor yellow and mr per lvl blue), ad page(ad quints reds,armor yellow,mr per lvl blue) ap mid page(personally I prefer MS quints mostly because of the champs I play,mpen reds,ap per lvl blue) armor page(armor quints and yellows,ad red,mr per lvl blue) Fifth page is just to fill that need for a niche page(mr ap mid,mr top lane,support or something like that) More than this is a waste of money/IP points I think. My 10: Marks / Seals / Glyphs / Quints MPen / Armor / MR / Armor - Magic characters @ top or otherwise vs physical damage (such as vs. talon) MPen / HP/lvl / MR / MR - Magic characters @ mid / vs magic damage MPen / Armor / MR / Movespeed - Magic characters w/ movespeed quints, pretty nice vs. skillshot-heavy champs. AD / Armor / MR / Armor - Armor stacking AD character/jungler AD / Armor / MR / AD - Standard AD stacking page ArPen / Armor / MR / MR - MR stacking AD character Armor / Armor / MR / GP10 - Standard Support AS / Armor / MR / Movespeed - Standard ASpd junglers AS / Armor / MR / AS - No really, ASPD. ArPen / Armor / MR / ArPen - Drive them out of top (or bot) lane armorpen stacking. The only ones I haven't used recently are crazy-AS stacking, but I'd run it on Mundo or Shyvana if I'm against a jungler who I feel I can probably counterjungle hard enough. I've also thought about picking up Health Regen quints and oddities like that. Also sometimes I'll throw together a special runepage for Maokai or Akali if I feel like it, but often I'll just run a standard one for characters that could theoretically take advantage of a super-specialized one. I'd agree though and say only about 6 of those are used CONSTANTLY - MR Mage Standard AD Support Armor AD MR AD ASPD w/ movespeed quints (but AD Quints are fine here for 99% of characters) Most used runes: Marks - AD, MPen (bout the same Seals - Armor, HP/lvl (armor used more often) Glyphs - MR (Flat is more versatile than scaling) Quints - AD, MR, Armor (mostly AD and MR) | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 11 2012 09:10 Alaric wrote: Is there a reason why you get AD on armor stacking page, but ArPen on the MR stacking one? Cause when I'm against vlad or similar characters top lane I am usually playing nidalee or something and trying to bully him out of lane early. ArPen is a bit letter for smacking people in the face. If I'm feeling like I want to play passively I'll just run the All AD page and deal without the 12 less MR (I'll be trading less anyway) It's totally not because I jumped to the FOTM AD Marks a while back for CSing and didn't change every single runepage, then made up a justification for it. Honest. | ||
PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 11 2012 06:45 HazMat wrote: Lol. Lightsludge isn't teddyro. Teddyro is rager baddie stuck at 2k, not big pro rank 1 player like lightsludge. Wasn't Teddyro #1 at some random point when all he played was pre-nerf shyvana? On July 11 2012 09:21 PrinceXizor wrote: heh... it also makes a little sense since most magic damage dealing characters top don't get as much armor as the physical damage dealing ones, so the arpen gives more bonus damage. ![]() That's the general idea - Vlad, Kennen, Swain almost never buy an armor item except sometimes tabi until they're 2-4k (or more) into the game. They're also much more likely to skip tabi (or get another item before tabi, like a revolver) than physical-oriented tops | ||
MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On July 11 2012 09:23 sylverfyre wrote: Wasn't Teddyro #1 at some random point when all he played was pre-nerf shyvana? That's the general idea - Vlad, Kennen, Swain almost never buy an armor item except sometimes tabi until they're 2-4k into the game. He played that as well as pre nerf Shaco and some AD TF | ||
TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
Edit: oh, the discussion moved on to runes. ![]() | ||
ketchup
14521 Posts
On July 11 2012 06:50 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: On a side note, let me just say that from actually testing new Eve from multiple angles I think Eve actually feels alright to play against now. No more rage desk flips. You guys have no idea how rage inducing the earlier iterations were oh my fk'ing god. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ HAX! I'm surprised TL isn't jumping on the Eve/Twitch hype. I expected to see like 20-50 pages of random theorycrafting that this place is known for | ||
obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 11 2012 09:35 ketchup wrote: HAX! I'm surprised TL isn't jumping on the Eve/Twitch hype. I expected to see like 20-50 pages of random theorycrafting that this place is known for So... zhonyas AP twitch now standard Amirite? Whenever you need to escape, stealth and pop zhonyas. You get out stealthed. And you probably have ap ratios on all your other spells. | ||
JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 11 2012 09:56 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm being stalked o.o i'm glad the only skin for jayce is the skin in which he loses to viktor. lol <3 | ||
SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On July 11 2012 09:56 JerKy wrote: what are your guys' thoughts on armor/level runes as opposed to just flat armor runes for standard ad carry pages? (heroes like ashe, graves, etc) Why would it be more useful to be tanky when you don't want to get hit, compared to being more tanky when you are going to take damage. edit: also lul orb hai didn't know amumu ult doesn't stop nunu ult lol. What's a snare again guys? I remember this way back from season one being nunu bottom and the amumu saying it was a bug. | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
what's the point of having everyone hear you sigh | ||
gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On July 11 2012 04:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Although Kamikat is quite a good AP player, I really dislike him. In fact, most of the guys on paiN are not very nice. Edit: good luck, lol just catching up on this thread after work today and i saw this wanted to offer an alternating viewpoint, the paiN guys are some of the funniest most manner players i've played with. SG scrims them weekly and they're just a blast to play with and against, super cool d00ds they're all brazilian, maybe their jokes are just not registering through | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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