EPT[Patch 1.0.0.142: Jayce] General Discussion - Page 25
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On July 09 2012 10:27 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Froggen declared Orianna post-patch as being completely broken since she's going to hurt like a truck in lane, have great zoning potential and hard to trade with thanks to autos. I'm inclined to agree. What? Froggen said he absolutely detested the Orianna changes. He ever went so far as to stick it as a banner on his stream yesterday. | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On July 09 2012 11:02 Craton wrote: What? Froggen said he absolutely detested the Orianna changes. He ever went so far as to stick it as a banner on his stream yesterday. Hm really? I was watching today as he was laning Ori and crushing this Nyaahri and saying how crazy powerful Ori was going to be now and how he didn't like that. Although it's possible I misheard since I was multitasking. But the gist of it seemed to be that Orianna was going to be FotM-material. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
On July 09 2012 11:02 Craton wrote: What? Froggen said he absolutely detested the Orianna changes. He ever went so far as to stick it as a banner on his stream yesterday. His opinion was that orianna was in a good spot before the patch where she was neither overpowered nor underpowered and still very viable in competitive play. The changes made orianna stronger than before and now, she's on the path towards becoming a permaban again. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On July 09 2012 10:54 BlackPaladin wrote: Bots always chained cc together well. That's was literally the only good thing about their AI. They can also calculate unerringly if they can combo you to dead. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On July 09 2012 11:16 Mogwai wrote: Jayce is so fkin' cool, holy shit. new dunkmaster | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On July 09 2012 09:33 HazMat wrote: Small world. Someone adds me and says that I stole his name (shakedrizzle). Apparently he's been using it since forever on runescape, xbox live and diablo2 and some other games. He could just be a troll because I'm too lazy to check but if so it's pretty crazy because while ShakeDrizzle is a reference to a semi-famous show it's only a mix of two names from the show O.O. It's completely clear it's a reference to athf (and a great name). As much as I love the show, the guy is prob just a random stoner, and you like, stole his name man, like, dude, way to bogart athf references. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
I feel a big difference in the responsiveness to her w/r after q as well. q damage doesn't seem to be that big of a hit either. Still does decent damage, and the w ap ratio increase might more than make up for it. Oh god, smash finally got his hands on Jayce. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On July 09 2012 12:19 UniversalSnip wrote: As far as heroes that have ults, who do you think typically has the shittiest ult in the game? Heimerdinger. Honorable mention to AP Sion. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
Trundle's used to be better when he could use it on Baron.... Irelia's is only used to heal slightly and clear minions waves...MF's is marginally better mebbe. Fucking XERATH | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 09 2012 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote: Sivir ult isn't great, many champions have better versions of that steroid as a regular ability. Trundle's used to be better when he could use it on Baron.... Irelia's is only used to heal slightly and clear minions waves...MF's is marginally better mebbe. Fucking XERATH wut. xerath ult is pretty good... | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 09 2012 10:42 Nos- wrote: Really disliking Jayce jungle, it's slow, it doesn't bring the damage, and he sucks at ganking. Disagree with you on all 3 counts. My biggest complaint about jayce jungle so far is that I chug pots like whoa. Ganks seem decent (2 speedboosts AND a gapclose? Terror with redbuff. And you can swap to range to continue damaging runners.) Clear time isn't stellar, but it's ok. What skills/items are you using to jungle? I tried out cloth5 -> tabi + 2 dorans, but I might want a wriggle just for the better lifesteal + armor. You end up buying pots like mundo, though. Itemwise later on, I'm not really sure what I should be doing. Triforce doesn't feel very good (even on dominion where I got to build it for free) so i was thinking build a little more like tanky ADcasters, like jarvan/lee sin. Been doing WQQE -> Q>E>R>W but I'm not really sure this is the best route. I do like WQQE opening though, and [start with ranged] EQRQ clears small camps quickly as long as you don't whiff with your 2 aoes. Also remember to abuse your R speedboost when running around in the jungle. It's free (unlike accel gate) and you usually want to swap back into ranged before you get to the next camp. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 09 2012 12:29 overt wrote: I honestly think that Caitlyn's ult is awful. Has zero utilty, does very little damage, and it's block-able. oddly enough its one of my favorite ults, in terms of balance/design. I like abilities that can be counterable/outplayed, so cait ult can be denied pretty hard, by smart play from team. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 09 2012 12:32 wei2coolman wrote: oddly enough its one of my favorite ults, in terms of balance/design. I like abilities that can be counterable/outplayed, so cait ult can be denied pretty hard, by smart play from team. Whatever niceties that design choice brings still makes it absolutely awful. It's a mediocre single target ad nuke with an absolutely enormous channel for little payoff that itself is blockable or easy to stop with a shield/heal spell. It's the worst ad carry ult and definitely one of the worst ults. | ||
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