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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 09 2012 01:54 GMT
#481
Bots always chained cc together well. That's was literally the only good thing about their AI.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 02:02:26
July 09 2012 02:02 GMT
#482
On July 09 2012 10:27 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 10:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 09 2012 09:38 Kenpachi wrote:
On July 09 2012 09:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Viktor is one of the few champions who I think is so terrible I hate with a passion. I have never won a game with viktor, and he always loses his lane horribly.

have you ever met fellow TLer jcarlsoniv


NO KENPACHI NO ONE HERE KNOWS WHO I AM MAKES ME SAD - also, if you couldn't tell, he was being 100% sardonic.

Also, everyone really thinks Orianna is worse off? I'm so confused. I've played quite a few games with her since the patch and I think she's definitely better. Her passive is so stupidly good in lane now, and by the time you have any significant AP, you'll have both W and Q maxed, so I still go with Q max first.

Froggen declared Orianna post-patch as being completely broken since she's going to hurt like a truck in lane, have great zoning potential and hard to trade with thanks to autos. I'm inclined to agree.

What?

Froggen said he absolutely detested the Orianna changes. He ever went so far as to stick it as a banner on his stream yesterday.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 09 2012 02:04 GMT
#483
On July 09 2012 11:02 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 10:27 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On July 09 2012 10:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 09 2012 09:38 Kenpachi wrote:
On July 09 2012 09:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Viktor is one of the few champions who I think is so terrible I hate with a passion. I have never won a game with viktor, and he always loses his lane horribly.

have you ever met fellow TLer jcarlsoniv


NO KENPACHI NO ONE HERE KNOWS WHO I AM MAKES ME SAD - also, if you couldn't tell, he was being 100% sardonic.

Also, everyone really thinks Orianna is worse off? I'm so confused. I've played quite a few games with her since the patch and I think she's definitely better. Her passive is so stupidly good in lane now, and by the time you have any significant AP, you'll have both W and Q maxed, so I still go with Q max first.

Froggen declared Orianna post-patch as being completely broken since she's going to hurt like a truck in lane, have great zoning potential and hard to trade with thanks to autos. I'm inclined to agree.

What?

Froggen said he absolutely detested the Orianna changes. He ever went so far as to stick it as a banner on his stream yesterday.

Hm really? I was watching today as he was laning Ori and crushing this Nyaahri and saying how crazy powerful Ori was going to be now and how he didn't like that. Although it's possible I misheard since I was multitasking. But the gist of it seemed to be that Orianna was going to be FotM-material.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 02:06:06
July 09 2012 02:05 GMT
#484
On July 09 2012 11:02 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 10:27 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On July 09 2012 10:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On July 09 2012 09:38 Kenpachi wrote:
On July 09 2012 09:36 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Viktor is one of the few champions who I think is so terrible I hate with a passion. I have never won a game with viktor, and he always loses his lane horribly.

have you ever met fellow TLer jcarlsoniv


NO KENPACHI NO ONE HERE KNOWS WHO I AM MAKES ME SAD - also, if you couldn't tell, he was being 100% sardonic.

Also, everyone really thinks Orianna is worse off? I'm so confused. I've played quite a few games with her since the patch and I think she's definitely better. Her passive is so stupidly good in lane now, and by the time you have any significant AP, you'll have both W and Q maxed, so I still go with Q max first.

Froggen declared Orianna post-patch as being completely broken since she's going to hurt like a truck in lane, have great zoning potential and hard to trade with thanks to autos. I'm inclined to agree.

What?

Froggen said he absolutely detested the Orianna changes. He ever went so far as to stick it as a banner on his stream yesterday.


His opinion was that orianna was in a good spot before the patch where she was neither overpowered nor underpowered and still very viable in competitive play. The changes made orianna stronger than before and now, she's on the path towards becoming a permaban again.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
July 09 2012 02:14 GMT
#485
On July 09 2012 10:54 BlackPaladin wrote:
Bots always chained cc together well. That's was literally the only good thing about their AI.

They can also calculate unerringly if they can combo you to dead.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 09 2012 02:16 GMT
#486
Jayce is so fkin' cool, holy shit.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
July 09 2012 02:28 GMT
#487
On July 09 2012 11:16 Mogwai wrote:
Jayce is so fkin' cool, holy shit.


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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 09 2012 02:36 GMT
#488
On July 09 2012 09:33 HazMat wrote:
Small world. Someone adds me and says that I stole his name (shakedrizzle). Apparently he's been using it since forever on runescape, xbox live and diablo2 and some other games. He could just be a troll because I'm too lazy to check but if so it's pretty crazy because while ShakeDrizzle is a reference to a semi-famous show it's only a mix of two names from the show O.O.

It's completely clear it's a reference to athf (and a great name). As much as I love the show, the guy is prob just a random stoner, and you like, stole his name man, like, dude, way to bogart athf references.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 02:45:34
July 09 2012 02:44 GMT
#489
Orianna seems stronger to me so far. biggest thing to her is the passive buff. Makes trading with her a bit harder.

I feel a big difference in the responsiveness to her w/r after q as well. q damage doesn't seem to be that big of a hit either. Still does decent damage, and the w ap ratio increase might more than make up for it.

Oh god, smash finally got his hands on Jayce.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 03:20:32
July 09 2012 03:19 GMT
#490
As far as heroes that have ults, who do you think typically has the shittiest ult in the game?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 09 2012 03:20 GMT
#491
Karthus
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 09 2012 03:22 GMT
#492
On July 09 2012 12:19 UniversalSnip wrote:
As far as heroes that have ults, who do you think typically has the shittiest ult in the game?


Heimerdinger.

Honorable mention to AP Sion.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 09 2012 03:26 GMT
#493
Xin Zhao, it used to be good now its just plain bad
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 09 2012 03:29 GMT
#494
I honestly think that Caitlyn's ult is awful. Has zero utilty, does very little damage, and it's block-able.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 09 2012 03:30 GMT
#495
Sivir ult isn't great, many champions have better versions of that steroid as a regular ability.
Trundle's used to be better when he could use it on Baron....
Irelia's is only used to heal slightly and clear minions waves...MF's is marginally better mebbe.

Fucking XERATH
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 09 2012 03:30 GMT
#496
Jarvan. Only ult that actively hurts your team.
Remember Violet.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 09 2012 03:31 GMT
#497
On July 09 2012 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sivir ult isn't great, many champions have better versions of that steroid as a regular ability.
Trundle's used to be better when he could use it on Baron....
Irelia's is only used to heal slightly and clear minions waves...MF's is marginally better mebbe.

Fucking XERATH

wut. xerath ult is pretty good...
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-09 03:35:46
July 09 2012 03:32 GMT
#498
On July 09 2012 10:42 Nos- wrote:
Really disliking Jayce jungle, it's slow, it doesn't bring the damage, and he sucks at ganking.

Disagree with you on all 3 counts. My biggest complaint about jayce jungle so far is that I chug pots like whoa. Ganks seem decent (2 speedboosts AND a gapclose? Terror with redbuff. And you can swap to range to continue damaging runners.)
Clear time isn't stellar, but it's ok.

What skills/items are you using to jungle? I tried out cloth5 -> tabi + 2 dorans, but I might want a wriggle just for the better lifesteal + armor. You end up buying pots like mundo, though.

Itemwise later on, I'm not really sure what I should be doing. Triforce doesn't feel very good (even on dominion where I got to build it for free) so i was thinking build a little more like tanky ADcasters, like jarvan/lee sin.

Been doing WQQE -> Q>E>R>W but I'm not really sure this is the best route. I do like WQQE opening though, and [start with ranged] EQRQ clears small camps quickly as long as you don't whiff with your 2 aoes.

Also remember to abuse your R speedboost when running around in the jungle. It's free (unlike accel gate) and you usually want to swap back into ranged before you get to the next camp.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 09 2012 03:32 GMT
#499
On July 09 2012 12:29 overt wrote:
I honestly think that Caitlyn's ult is awful. Has zero utilty, does very little damage, and it's block-able.

oddly enough its one of my favorite ults, in terms of balance/design.
I like abilities that can be counterable/outplayed, so cait ult can be denied pretty hard, by smart play from team.
liftlift > tsm
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 09 2012 03:40 GMT
#500
On July 09 2012 12:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2012 12:29 overt wrote:
I honestly think that Caitlyn's ult is awful. Has zero utilty, does very little damage, and it's block-able.

oddly enough its one of my favorite ults, in terms of balance/design.
I like abilities that can be counterable/outplayed, so cait ult can be denied pretty hard, by smart play from team.


Whatever niceties that design choice brings still makes it absolutely awful. It's a mediocre single target ad nuke with an absolutely enormous channel for little payoff that itself is blockable or easy to stop with a shield/heal spell. It's the worst ad carry ult and definitely one of the worst ults.
Remember Violet.
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