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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#1501
I played varus quite a bit on PBE (I mean come on guys he's been on there for you to stomp pubbies with him for ages) and very rarely did I manage to ult more than one person. The leash range *is* small, those Annies in the video are at the max extent of it's range, it's really easy to just walk out of it. The rooted person can't even troll by chasing you.

Phreak spotlight is literally the first time I've ever seen it root more than two people.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#1502
On May 08 2012 12:19 Requizen wrote:
Dunno, the time between "chains" seems really long, and anyone with any awareness should be able to walk/dash out of it easier than Morg's or another comparable ability.

Range is 1075, just shy of Bandage Toss's 1100

it's still really good. Doesn't get blocked by minions, fast animation. It looks extremely promising as an initiation tool. Like a lower range Ashe Arrow that is a harder initiate due to the multiple roots.
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Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:28:07
May 08 2012 03:27 GMT
#1503
wow varus looks shitty, no mobility and he even slows himself so he can't kite while using (well, charging) his q. ult looks cool i guess but it takes so long for it to spread to other people and it's probably gonna just be like most brand ults where they just run away from each other and it only hits one person.

he could work well with aoe comps, it just seems like it would be really easy for assassins to jump in and pick him off. also i'm gonna enjoy camping this guy in lane pre 6.

i guess he could get pretty scary when fed, but so can vayne who has an amazing kit for kiting and protecting herself.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 08 2012 03:28 GMT
#1504
On May 08 2012 12:27 Xevious wrote:
wow varus looks shitty, no mobility and he even slows himself so he can't kite while using (well, charging) his q. ult looks cool i guess but it takes so long for it to spread to other people and it's probably gonna just be like most brand ults where they just run away from each other and it only hits one person.


Brand's ult doesn't cc the first guy hit, so HE could actually run away from the rest.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
May 08 2012 03:29 GMT
#1505
meh i dont like varus... blight is kinda like silver bolts except you have to hit them with an abillity to trigger it

ulti is fairly easy to land when i tried him on pbe... idk maybe we sucked at dodging

q can do a good deal of damage + has fairly big range which is really nice for hitting running peeps

its just without atkspeed steriod and scaling with ap on blight + e he doesnt seem to be better at ad carry than any current
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 08 2012 03:29 GMT
#1506
On May 08 2012 12:25 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 12:19 Requizen wrote:
Dunno, the time between "chains" seems really long, and anyone with any awareness should be able to walk/dash out of it easier than Morg's or another comparable ability.

Range is 1075, just shy of Bandage Toss's 1100


I feel like that's still very strong, assuming it doesn't get minion blocked.

The main problem with walk dashing out of getting chained is that you're essentially ditching one of your teammates to die. Imagine a teamfight where Varus ults someone and the only way to not get rooted is to run the fuck away from the CC'ed guy.

To be fair, being clumped up is never a good idea in the first place, too many things take advantage of it. Amumu combo, Naut, Galio Flash/Ult, Graves combo, Brand combo, Xerath everything, etc. It's always a good idea to have some measure of separation in the first place.

The ideal use for it is hitting a carry with it to make his bruiser/peeler run away and leave the squishy by himself, but if the bruiser/peeler/tank is anything worth his salt, he'll never let that happen, imoimo.

Still strong, but I don't think it's more broken than any other AoE CC out there. Morg's is still the most annoying, because if you all run in the same direction she'll just chase, so you need to hardcore separate if she ever gets anywhere near range for it.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 04:00:39
May 08 2012 03:58 GMT
#1507
On May 08 2012 12:27 Xevious wrote:
he could work well with aoe comps, it just seems like it would be really easy for assassins to jump in and pick him off. also i'm gonna enjoy camping this guy in lane pre 6.

Good luck camping him when Q+E can probably clear a wave by themselves at level 4 or 5. E the creeps as they meet, start charging Q, get all 6 lasthits from 1k+ range.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 04:02:23
May 08 2012 04:00 GMT
#1508
[image loading]
O.o
I pressed "im" on accident because I thought I had the chat box selected and it said "you can not join this queue because you are already in an existing queue" and now I can see ip/rp. I'm scared to view profile because I got Lee Sin and don't want to get a dodge but I'll try this again on my other account. It would be cool if you could do runes and stuff this way :3

edit: And no I don't ban morg. Was a panic ban. 1 sec left and I saw purple.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 08 2012 04:06 GMT
#1509
That happens to me occasionally, and no you can't go to your profile to change runes/masteries
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 08 2012 04:06 GMT
#1510
Purple always banworthy imo

I wish you coukd do runes in champ select.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
May 08 2012 04:16 GMT
#1511
CLG poke comp with Varus instead of Cait now :D
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 04:24:11
May 08 2012 04:23 GMT
#1512
On May 08 2012 13:16 beefhamburger wrote:
CLG poke comp with Varus instead of Cait now :D


Thats the thing, Varus seems to be similar in design to Viktor in that he is a huge "go ahead initiate on me, make my day".

Just like Viktor he has a nice long poke, and if you go in on him his ult (vik stunbubble) will make you all run away or snare literally your entire team. Varus ult will be by far at its strongest in counterinitaiting.

I think those two would be a great combo, get jumped and have literally a 4-5 second AOE disable while Viktor Ult ruins them.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 04:25:59
May 08 2012 04:24 GMT
#1513
Varus looks really strong.

He will be obnoxious to lane against because he has so much range, and aside from MF Ult/Sivir Q I dont think any other AD carry can clear waves the way Varus will be able to. You either let Varus have more items than you, or lose XP/gold to the tower because he can hard push waves.

I could see him being good mid too, he can clear waves easily and I'd assume his ult makes for scary ganks.
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
May 08 2012 04:40 GMT
#1514
just a random question, anyone know if there's going to be new skins this patch? there's usually a post on reddit the night before a patch with the new skins.

also watching dyrus roleplay as volibear is hilarious
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
May 08 2012 04:57 GMT
#1515
zzz. So I know this question has been asked hundreds of times, but when does it end? In ranked games, I'm currently 1180~ , with a variance of like 1100~ 1250. I generally go positive every game and win my lane, but it just seems hopeless at some points. My toplane Riven is 100-37-60~ with a 48% winrate, its like sometimes no matter how good you do, the team just crumbles.

Sigh, sorry for generic question and semi rant. just depressed.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
May 08 2012 05:04 GMT
#1516
On May 08 2012 13:57 Kouda wrote:
zzz. So I know this question has been asked hundreds of times, but when does it end? In ranked games, I'm currently 1180~ , with a variance of like 1100~ 1250. I generally go positive every game and win my lane, but it just seems hopeless at some points. My toplane Riven is 100-37-60~ with a 48% winrate, its like sometimes no matter how good you do, the team just crumbles.

Sigh, sorry for generic question and semi rant. just depressed.


Maybe your not very good at team fighting, going for objectives, and working with your team? If your doing great in lane but cant finish out games and arent making good decisions your not gonna win the game. I mean i havent seen you play personally so I have no clue but try to think about what your doing thats keeping you in that elo bracket.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 05:07:38
May 08 2012 05:05 GMT
#1517
You either have really bad luck or you're not doing everything in your power to help your team win. That includes watching the map for them, pinging to retreat, making good calls(being a leader in low ELO is pretty important and can pick you up free wins). For example: calling to do baron after killing 1-2 members of the enemy team, believe it or not 90% of players would rather farm some wraiths than to take a free baron

If you truly belong higher, you'll get there eventually. People have proved that time and time again
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
May 08 2012 05:08 GMT
#1518
On May 08 2012 14:05 MooMooMugi wrote:
You either have really bad luck or you're not doing everything in your power to help your team win. That includes watching the map for them, pinigng to retreat, making good calls(being a leader in low ELO is pretty important and can pick you up free wins).

If you truly belong higher, you'll get there eventually. People have proved that time and time again


I try, but there is a point where I give up because they just do stupid shit over and over sometimes. Its like herding a group of retarded sheep so they dont run off a cliff or something. I know in a sense the system works, and I'm not like.. against it or complaining at the system, rather just the games. Its like, really depressing sometimes.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#1519
hi5 if you just spectated my game.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 05:23:45
May 08 2012 05:22 GMT
#1520
Well you're right about the system, its not even close to perfect. The concept of "Solo Queue" is flawed because the outcome of your games are being affected by 4 other members. A single player can make or break your game, you can do amazing every game yet still lose because of someone whos not good enough. Now if your Solo Q ELO was determined by individual performance that would be a whole different story, but also hard to balance
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