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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
May 08 2012 01:55 GMT
#1481
On May 08 2012 08:31 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 08:14 Sufinsil wrote:
Varus preview at pcgamer.com

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/07/champion-roundtable-varus-the-arrow-of-retribution/

To me seems
Q - Different take on ezreal
W - MF w + lux passive?
E - MF e with a healing regen debuff
R - Have to wait to try it.

Dunno. Does not seem unique enough to pick up first day. Not sure yet.


Are you kidding?! He's all like, heck yeah I have all the range! Running? Nope, chained to the ground? Trying to get away with half health? NP, Q you for a billion damage!

He's a AD with amazing range and a very powerful AoE snare. That's balleritude right there.


Of course some skills will be similar if not the same. The whole kit they are given is how the champion plays out, as said ahri shares something similiar to sivir but they are not the same.

At least the Q is a bit different to be distinct tho similiar. E is... raining arrows on an area/raining bullets on an area. I guess we have not seen an AD range in the last few and hoped for something else to stand out. Or as you said, maybe with that kit combo he will stand out.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 08 2012 01:55 GMT
#1482
Wow can't believe some people didn't know about the Heal Stomp Combo...

He's not even viable without it.
Retvrn to Forvms
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:56:55
May 08 2012 01:56 GMT
#1483
On May 08 2012 10:54 MooMooMugi wrote:
Galio top isn't that great, you can't farm wraiths and its far from blue buff(purple). He's better mid lane

But his w heals every tick of flamethrower and with chalice he should be fine on mana if you dont play tarded

combination of W heal from fire and building MRR naturally and if rumble is top they probably have double AP
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 08 2012 01:56 GMT
#1484
bahaha. I was just speccing my friend's game and there was the most unlucky baron steal I've ever seen. He was playing cho and they went for baron, he feasts it and (I slow-mo'd this) it has FIVE hp left and ashe arrow flies in and blind steals it. The arrow had come off cooldown only seconds before too. So funny.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 02:03:43
May 08 2012 02:00 GMT
#1485
I am a herp derp.
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 08 2012 02:07 GMT
#1486
EUW down Varus coming or some other minor patch? Or just random downtime?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 02:10 GMT
#1487
On May 08 2012 10:51 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 10:20 MooMooMugi wrote:
What the heck beats Rumble top lane? I went WW with full MR page and still got melted by a danger zone flamethrower that takes half my HP instantly


Galio


Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 10:47 HazMat wrote:
Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%.


dafuq?

Been around since cow remake lol.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 08 2012 02:12 GMT
#1488
On May 08 2012 10:54 MooMooMugi wrote:
Galio top isn't that great, you can't farm wraiths and its far from blue buff(purple). He's better mid lane


Thats completely irrelevant, they put Rumble top you put Galio top. He wins that lane and doesnt need blue with chalice.

You wouldnt say "AD carry mid isnt great", well no shit but they put Kass mid and its a smart move.

Plus Galio is great vs double AP, which is the case 90% of the time when rumble top.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 02:13:41
May 08 2012 02:13 GMT
#1489
On May 08 2012 08:14 Sufinsil wrote:
Varus preview at pcgamer.com

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/05/07/champion-roundtable-varus-the-arrow-of-retribution/

To me seems
Q - Different take on ezreal
W - MF w + lux passive?
E - MF e with a healing regen debuff
R - Have to wait to try it.

Dunno. Does not seem unique enough to pick up first day. Not sure yet.

Here's a little more info
Passive - Attack speed boost when killing a minion or a champion. good for last hitting imo
Q- is a kinda weird feeling skillshot that goes really far and through things. Think about caitlyn Q but skinnier and longer ranged. Usually in a middle of a team fight you just use it as an extra attack scaling is pretty good and pushes lane well if you need to clear creeps. Damage goes down to 33% or something really low though after hitting a few people. Q range grows after you cast it also.
W - Is a MF passive with % damage that stacks up if you hit them with a spellcast
E- An AOE circle shot that does some really good damage on impact. After that it becomes a slow with heal debuff
R- Ulti since i last played him is okay... the creep up on to people though feels really slow but is okay in teamfights
Overall, I like him :D
BW -> League -> CSGO
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
May 08 2012 02:15 GMT
#1490
On May 08 2012 11:12 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 10:54 MooMooMugi wrote:
Galio top isn't that great, you can't farm wraiths and its far from blue buff(purple). He's better mid lane


Thats completely irrelevant, they put Rumble top you put Galio top. He wins that lane and doesnt need blue with chalice.

You wouldnt say "AD carry mid isnt great", well no shit but they put Kass mid and its a smart move.

Plus Galio is great vs double AP, which is the case 90% of the time when rumble top.


you say that but....

a lot of AD mids are pretty good against a lot of common mids, not just kass.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 08 2012 02:19 GMT
#1491
On May 08 2012 11:15 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 11:12 sob3k wrote:
On May 08 2012 10:54 MooMooMugi wrote:
Galio top isn't that great, you can't farm wraiths and its far from blue buff(purple). He's better mid lane


Thats completely irrelevant, they put Rumble top you put Galio top. He wins that lane and doesnt need blue with chalice.

You wouldnt say "AD carry mid isnt great", well no shit but they put Kass mid and its a smart move.

Plus Galio is great vs double AP, which is the case 90% of the time when rumble top.


you say that but....

a lot of AD mids are pretty good against a lot of common mids, not just kass.


Thats exactly what I meant, same thing with Galio.

There are reasons Ad is run bot most of the time, but they can be good mid. Same with Galio.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 02:44:06
May 08 2012 02:43 GMT
#1492

spotlight out, not sure if he should actually mid though
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:11:49
May 08 2012 02:47 GMT
#1493
when are they gonna fix nasus to make him playable increase mana cost on q but give mana return for a kill same as irelia and reduce the mana cost of first 2 levels of e to make it actually usable at all. being forced to open philo stone is probably whats hurting him as much as anything

oh ye and his pathetic base stats.

On May 08 2012 10:47 HazMat wrote:
Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%.



in 2 weeks time you will agree with me, im just ahead of the curve.

second thing to bitch about, when are they gonna fix alistars healing. if you have like 10ap its inefficient to ever level it up, stands around spamming a heal for no mana cost and has no cd because his ad can just push the lane because if you ever try and stop them, you die, because alistar ;/

not even whining, its a legit problem with game design that leveling up his heal doesnt make him heal for more.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
May 08 2012 02:53 GMT
#1494
On May 08 2012 11:43 Frolossus wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twiHstUjNkY&feature=youtu.be
spotlight out, not sure if he should actually mid though


But can he jungle that is the question
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:04:10
May 08 2012 03:03 GMT
#1495
Varus looks very OP, max HP% damage on his W? Wow just like Vayne...
And his ult is like morgana's ult that snares but has malzahar's visions effect
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#1496
That spotlight... TWO ANNIES? WHAT MADNESS IS THIS?

He also only has one other skin? Dunno what to think about that, the other one probably just wasn't ready for the spotlight.

He looks really cool, the more I see him the more I want to try him. On the other hand, I day 1 bought Hecarim, so maybe I should hold off on this guy....

Nah, fuck it. Money, HOOOOOOOOOO
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 08 2012 03:12 GMT
#1497
Not going to lie I was not to exited for Varus because his model looks terrible, but that ult looks pretty fucking good.
Carrilord has arrived.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:17:54
May 08 2012 03:17 GMT
#1498
Man, unless the cast range or leash range completely sucks, Varus' ulti is probably the strongest out of all ranged carries, aside from possibly Ashe.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 03:20:59
May 08 2012 03:19 GMT
#1499
Dunno, the time between "chains" seems really long, and anyone with any awareness should be able to walk/dash out of it easier than Morg's or another comparable ability.

Range is 1075, just shy of Bandage Toss's 1100
It's your boy Guzma!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 08 2012 03:25 GMT
#1500
On May 08 2012 12:19 Requizen wrote:
Dunno, the time between "chains" seems really long, and anyone with any awareness should be able to walk/dash out of it easier than Morg's or another comparable ability.

Range is 1075, just shy of Bandage Toss's 1100


I feel like that's still very strong, assuming it doesn't get minion blocked.

The main problem with walk dashing out of getting chained is that you're essentially ditching one of your teammates to die. Imagine a teamfight where Varus ults someone and the only way to not get rooted is to run the fuck away from the CC'ed guy.
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