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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21664 Posts
May 08 2012 00:26 GMT
#1461
Problem with Varus % hp dmg is that he needs to auto someone and then hit them with skills. While its nice for lategame bruiser fights i dont see him getting it off more then once in a fight with said bruiser.
The scaling on his Q however seems pretty huge. minimum scaling of 1.0 and 1.6 on max charge gives him a lot of damage midgame. Add in something akin to a short ranged ashe ult for chasing and im really looking forward to him.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 08 2012 00:53 GMT
#1462
Is Sion not at all part of the "meta"? Is he too UP or is he banned? I only ask because I never see him in the featured spectator games, and I always thought he was kind of ridiculously OP.

Maybe it's because he doesn't really have a role. He's sort of a tank, sort of a bruiser, sort of a caster. Not necessarily the best at any of those roles, yet still completely awesome because he isn't weak in any of those regards either. Can't be easily ganked or quickly focused like a normal squishy caster, he puts out more damage than your normal tank, and has more utility than most bruisers.
Big water
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 08 2012 00:57 GMT
#1463
On May 08 2012 09:53 Leporello wrote:
Is Sion not at all part of the "meta"? Is he too UP or is he banned? I only ask because I never see him in the featured spectator games, and I always thought he was kind of ridiculously OP.

Maybe it's because he doesn't really have a role. He's sort of a tank, sort of a bruiser, sort of a caster. Not necessarily the best at any of those roles, yet still completely awesome because he isn't weak in any of those regards either. Can't be easily ganked or quickly focused like a normal squishy caster, he puts out more damage than your normal tank, and has more utility than most bruisers.


Wut? Only Sion that has been actually good or viable is ap sion, ad bruiser sion just gets kited and fails. Sion just isn't popular mid anymore, he's super snowball and his roaming shut down by smart play. He's still viable tho.
DURRHURRDERP
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada929 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:04:01
May 08 2012 00:59 GMT
#1464
treadstoneassassin on NA has 62.3% winrate (his most played by far) with bruiser sion top lane. it's alright but somewhat gimmicky since he uses crit chance marks+quints (14% crit chance lvl 1).

sion in general has been hit pretty hard by nerfs in the past and can be countered by a lot of mid champs. if you look at everything AP sion does mid (clears creeps fast -> high mobility ganks), you can see that other champs like ahri can do the exact same thing + are stronger in lane + more mobile/have better escape abilities + are much stronger late game (AP sion late game -> once your shield is popped, you're basically screwed). plus people have been warding a lot more now (especially bottom lane), which is a sort of soft-counter to sion ganks since his gank paths are pretty predictable.

that said he's probably still pretty good at low elo.
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Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
May 08 2012 01:00 GMT
#1465
On May 08 2012 09:25 UniversalSnip wrote:
Cut me a break, man, I stuck to the agreement for like 8 minutes. do you know hard that is vs teemo?

And don't think I didn't see you hopping.


Lies and slander.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
May 08 2012 01:03 GMT
#1466
On May 08 2012 07:01 -Zoda- wrote:
I just played a game as jungle Jarman and god this guy is slow compared to Udyr or Mundo I'm used to play. Needed AD quints probably.
Hecarim outfarmed me by a good amount on the other team...

Ah Jarvan is a pretty quick jungler.

Were you not leveling Q?

EQ into a small camp leaves it pretty low
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:09:34
May 08 2012 01:06 GMT
#1467
On May 08 2012 09:57 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2012 09:53 Leporello wrote:
Is Sion not at all part of the "meta"? Is he too UP or is he banned? I only ask because I never see him in the featured spectator games, and I always thought he was kind of ridiculously OP.

Maybe it's because he doesn't really have a role. He's sort of a tank, sort of a bruiser, sort of a caster. Not necessarily the best at any of those roles, yet still completely awesome because he isn't weak in any of those regards either. Can't be easily ganked or quickly focused like a normal squishy caster, he puts out more damage than your normal tank, and has more utility than most bruisers.


Wut? Only Sion that has been actually good or viable is ap sion, ad bruiser sion just gets kited and fails. Sion just isn't popular mid anymore, he's super snowball and his roaming shut down by smart play. He's still viable tho.


I agree AP Sion is the way to go. I just think it's a great champ. Hard hitting stun, huge do-all health shield, both scale really well with AP, and yet he can still do some bruising (and healing) with his ult. A great Lich Bane type champ. Just thought I'd see him more in the spectator games. Guess I'll have to look more.

Edit: And yes, I can see how his mobility would be a factor.
Big water
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 08 2012 01:20 GMT
#1468
What the heck beats Rumble top lane? I went WW with full MR page and still got melted by a danger zone flamethrower that takes half my HP instantly
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 08 2012 01:23 GMT
#1469
riven
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
May 08 2012 01:36 GMT
#1470
On May 08 2012 10:20 MooMooMugi wrote:
What the heck beats Rumble top lane? I went WW with full MR page and still got melted by a danger zone flamethrower that takes half my HP instantly


Riven. Kill him at level 3. gg

I'm tempted to say Kennen, but I actually feel that is a pretty even matchup overall.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 01:39 GMT
#1471
Why do people pick veigar if they can't get the stun to land. The whole point of him is to land the stun, not to throw it randomly and hope people walk into the border.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 08 2012 01:41 GMT
#1472
On May 08 2012 10:39 HazMat wrote:
Why do people pick veigar if they can't get the stun to land. The whole point of him is to land the stun, not to throw it randomly and hope people walk into the border.




I avoid playing Cow because I can't EQ. ;_;
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:46:57
May 08 2012 01:41 GMT
#1473
flash q w them backwards much more man mode

On May 08 2012 10:39 HazMat wrote:
Why do people pick veigar if they can't get the stun to land. The whole point of him is to land the stun, not to throw it randomly and hope people walk into the border.


smart casting his stun is so much fun ;D
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 01:42 GMT
#1474
Heal stomp them. Real gud.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 08 2012 01:46 GMT
#1475
Dont you mean alistar's WQ? E is his heal lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 08 2012 01:46 GMT
#1476
WHATEVER
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 08 2012 01:47 GMT
#1477
Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 08 2012 01:48 GMT
#1478
Oh didn't know that, been playing Alistar for dozens of games too I feel ashamed ;_;
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 01:54:07
May 08 2012 01:51 GMT
#1479
On May 08 2012 10:20 MooMooMugi wrote:
What the heck beats Rumble top lane? I went WW with full MR page and still got melted by a danger zone flamethrower that takes half my HP instantly


Galio


On May 08 2012 10:47 HazMat wrote:
Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%.


dafuq?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 08 2012 01:54 GMT
#1480
Galio top isn't that great, you can't farm wraiths and its far from blue buff(purple). He's better mid lane
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
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