EPTThe scaling on his Q however seems pretty huge. minimum scaling of 1.0 and 1.6 on max charge gives him a lot of damage midgame. Add in something akin to a short ranged ashe ult for chasing and im really looking forward to him.
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21953 Posts
The scaling on his Q however seems pretty huge. minimum scaling of 1.0 and 1.6 on max charge gives him a lot of damage midgame. Add in something akin to a short ranged ashe ult for chasing and im really looking forward to him. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
Maybe it's because he doesn't really have a role. He's sort of a tank, sort of a bruiser, sort of a caster. Not necessarily the best at any of those roles, yet still completely awesome because he isn't weak in any of those regards either. Can't be easily ganked or quickly focused like a normal squishy caster, he puts out more damage than your normal tank, and has more utility than most bruisers. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On May 08 2012 09:53 Leporello wrote: Is Sion not at all part of the "meta"? Is he too UP or is he banned? I only ask because I never see him in the featured spectator games, and I always thought he was kind of ridiculously OP. Maybe it's because he doesn't really have a role. He's sort of a tank, sort of a bruiser, sort of a caster. Not necessarily the best at any of those roles, yet still completely awesome because he isn't weak in any of those regards either. Can't be easily ganked or quickly focused like a normal squishy caster, he puts out more damage than your normal tank, and has more utility than most bruisers. Wut? Only Sion that has been actually good or viable is ap sion, ad bruiser sion just gets kited and fails. Sion just isn't popular mid anymore, he's super snowball and his roaming shut down by smart play. He's still viable tho. | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
sion in general has been hit pretty hard by nerfs in the past and can be countered by a lot of mid champs. if you look at everything AP sion does mid (clears creeps fast -> high mobility ganks), you can see that other champs like ahri can do the exact same thing + are stronger in lane + more mobile/have better escape abilities + are much stronger late game (AP sion late game -> once your shield is popped, you're basically screwed). plus people have been warding a lot more now (especially bottom lane), which is a sort of soft-counter to sion ganks since his gank paths are pretty predictable. that said he's probably still pretty good at low elo. | ||
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
On May 08 2012 09:25 UniversalSnip wrote: Cut me a break, man, I stuck to the agreement for like 8 minutes. do you know hard that is vs teemo? And don't think I didn't see you hopping. Lies and slander. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On May 08 2012 07:01 -Zoda- wrote: I just played a game as jungle Jarman and god this guy is slow compared to Udyr or Mundo I'm used to play. Needed AD quints probably. Hecarim outfarmed me by a good amount on the other team... Ah Jarvan is a pretty quick jungler. Were you not leveling Q? EQ into a small camp leaves it pretty low | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On May 08 2012 09:57 Goshawk. wrote: Wut? Only Sion that has been actually good or viable is ap sion, ad bruiser sion just gets kited and fails. Sion just isn't popular mid anymore, he's super snowball and his roaming shut down by smart play. He's still viable tho. I agree AP Sion is the way to go. I just think it's a great champ. Hard hitting stun, huge do-all health shield, both scale really well with AP, and yet he can still do some bruising (and healing) with his ult. A great Lich Bane type champ. Just thought I'd see him more in the spectator games. Guess I'll have to look more. Edit: And yes, I can see how his mobility would be a factor. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On May 08 2012 10:20 MooMooMugi wrote: What the heck beats Rumble top lane? I went WW with full MR page and still got melted by a danger zone flamethrower that takes half my HP instantly Riven. Kill him at level 3. gg I'm tempted to say Kennen, but I actually feel that is a pretty even matchup overall. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 08 2012 10:39 HazMat wrote: Why do people pick veigar if they can't get the stun to land. The whole point of him is to land the stun, not to throw it randomly and hope people walk into the border.  I avoid playing Cow because I can't EQ. ;_; | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On May 08 2012 10:39 HazMat wrote: Why do people pick veigar if they can't get the stun to land. The whole point of him is to land the stun, not to throw it randomly and hope people walk into the border. smart casting his stun is so much fun ;D | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 08 2012 10:20 MooMooMugi wrote: What the heck beats Rumble top lane? I went WW with full MR page and still got melted by a danger zone flamethrower that takes half my HP instantly Galio On May 08 2012 10:47 HazMat wrote: Neo and Turd are talking about EQ. It's a combo that lets your E heal for 100% to allies instead of 50%. dafuq? | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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