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Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
May 01 2012 05:47 GMT
#21
I still enjoy how many people raged at me playing AD carry since September with Heal. When I was brand new and figured that having 700 free HP at level 18 was pretty good + some team help. Like, serous "my god you're retard noob" rage.

And now I watch every single carry running it. Not going to claim credit for the trend, because I suck. Just a brief moment of smugness at internet stupid before I contribute for it again. They do like nerfing it though, because there aren't assassins to kill carries or something.
I'm From Canada, so they think I'm slow, eh?
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9761 Posts
May 01 2012 05:49 GMT
#22
On May 01 2012 14:28 ETisME wrote:
So I have been trying out irelia because she looks interesting.
Had a few games where I own the other team and vice versa, I get owned in some games.

The problem I am facing is that the effectiveness of her is so dependant on when she gets the triforce completed. If I managed to get it early, she is really quite strong in tanking and dealing damage all around as well as offering stuns and slow. If I couldn't get it early enough, she seems too weak to do anything inside the group fights because she doesn't have enough health to dive in too early and doesn't do enough damage as other AP champs.

(I am just lvl15 and so no elo yet)
Can someone tell me if the items sound ok? (for mastery, I mainly get enough for defensive and the extra gold per min)
regrowth pendant into philosopher's stone
boot into mercury boot
ruby crystal into heart of gold
another ruby into phage

The thing I find about these "auto gold generate" items are that it is easy to build, gives good regen and hp and they can be turned into some more advanced items in later game, making the slot not so wasted.
the gold generate is amazing throughout the whole game (even if I died, I can get more gold!) and even better in mid to late game when everyone are dancing around trying to get off a better initiative and win the 5v5 fight.
And so I would delay my tri force a bit just so that I have higher hp to join the 5v5 fights and dealing the true damage, hoping for the slow, and stunning/slowing the right ones.
(and damn, can't wait to try out the spec mode!)

I'm not a huge fan of gp5 on irelia, unless its a complete freefarm lane like cho or nasus (you really can't do anything about these two guys). I'd suggest getting a fast wriggles for a hard physical damage lane, wits for a hard magic damage lane, or phage for an easy lane.
boomer hands
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 01 2012 05:53 GMT
#23
Is the patch being implemented tonight at 2am?
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valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
May 01 2012 05:54 GMT
#24
I don't think that this is really a ryze nerf though one would be justified IMO.
They nerfed his mana ratios on Q,W by 1 and 0.5 % respectively and gave one to the E of 1% total nerf of 0.5% of max mana given about 4K mana that's 20 damage lost per combo/cycle/rotation given each spell being used once. But Q is used twice typically. 1% of 4K is 40 plus the 20 so its a total of 60 damage lost from his mana ratios.
However they buffed the base damage by a flat 20 canceling out the mana ratio of Q nerf.
They also increased the AP ratios to 0.4 from 0.2. Assuming not at the AA stage of a normal ryze build you'll have 80 ap from wota unless you have a void staff 80 X 0.2= 16 Q is used twice so 32 extra damage. Ryze's damage isn't really going down not up either but not down.

Riot dropped the range on Q by 50 and they dropped the snare duration by 0.25s. These are nerfs but the new ult gives movespeed which is very useful on ryze for chasing catching etc instead of flash W it'll be RW. I reckon these will about cancel out but I don't know for sure.
The other changes are some mana cost reductions, E bounce range increase and AI changes and no ult mana I don't think these will do that much.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
May 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#25
Zilean can no longer level up Rewind at level 1

i thought that was cute
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#26
Damn, chogath ms buff is going to be fucking epic, base 320 is so freaking nice, matches w/ garen and irelia basespeed. Giantly huge dinosaur like thing chasing after you, will be hella scary now.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 01 2012 06:02 GMT
#27
so amusing. my friend and I just discovered the infinite troll of cho'gath + support nunu bot today and now they buff both of them? yessss
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
May 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#28
OMG YES DFG DIDNT GET NERFED IT GOT BUFFED YESSSSSS
TranslatorBaa!
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 06:06:42
May 01 2012 06:04 GMT
#29
On May 01 2012 14:59 wei2coolman wrote:
Damn, chogath ms buff is going to be fucking epic, base 320 is so freaking nice, matches w/ garen and irelia basespeed. Giantly huge dinosaur like thing chasing after you, will be hella scary now.


i run move speed quints and 0/21/9 on jungle cho and start boots. 400 ms at level one before this. i can't wait to sprint into lane and red buff all over everyone.


On May 01 2012 14:56 Xevious wrote:
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Zilean can no longer level up Rewind at level 1

i thought that was cute


that made me mad. don't tell me what i can't do riot.
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
May 01 2012 06:09 GMT
#30
I swear to god that riot's patches exist solely to convenience me. I start wondering about DFG on morde thinking that the mana regen is fuck all and DFG is worth the wasted stats. Behold DFG is buffed for my purposed at the very least. I start playing ryze. Behold ryze gets changed just then so I don't have to relearn him. I start playing alot of nunu. Behold nunu gets buffed. I start liking to get kage's on certain supports behold kage's now builds into something useful.
Well the usefulness of morello's is arguable.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 06:58:35
May 01 2012 06:16 GMT
#31
On May 01 2012 15:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
OMG YES DFG DIDNT GET NERFED IT GOT BUFFED YESSSSSS


The AP go buffed, the active got nerfed.

Unless you're routinely rolling 1000+ AP.


vvvvvvvvvvv Edit: Point. vvvvvvvvvvv
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 01 2012 06:17 GMT
#32
I think the range buff FAR outweights the damage loss. It's a pain in the ass for any mage to use a 650 range spell as the opening to their burst.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 01 2012 06:21 GMT
#33
Blast, Ryze changes. I was just starting to love him.

It feels like a pretty substantial nerf, at least to what Ryze currently does best. Maybe his builds can change a bit and it will be fine (i.e building RoA and Archangels earlier), but I'm not capable of theorycrafting that right now.
Freeeeeeedom
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 01 2012 06:22 GMT
#34
Was kind of expecting this patch out sooner than previous patch, cos on CN server Varus was already on the roster when the server patched two days ago.
They didn't sell them yet though, still 2 more weeks to wait as usual . I just want a new AD carry so bad.
Terran
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 01 2012 06:26 GMT
#35
This isn't actually the Varus patch. This is the Spectator Mode patch. You should change the title.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 01 2012 06:27 GMT
#36
Ryze's damage output will increase if its glasscannon, but glasscannon ryze will suck, he'll get blown up from ensuing battles.
liftlift > tsm
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
May 01 2012 06:32 GMT
#37
Ryze not going to change with these changes. He might see RoA rarely now and just a quicker Archangels probably.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 06:34:50
May 01 2012 06:32 GMT
#38
I'm going to start picking ghost flash on people again. Unless I'm like Kat I don't see why I need ignite/exhaust.
edit: This isn't because of any patch change, just had an epiphany is all.
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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
May 01 2012 06:32 GMT
#39
that annie buff! Tibber Everywhere now!
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 06:33:07
May 01 2012 06:32 GMT
#40
Does Ryze's ult now give movespeed AND lifesteal? Or only movespeed? Hope his new animations still allow for super fast casting.
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