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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On May 01 2012 18:05 Infundibulum wrote: man that is a pretty big nerf to warwick's Q. i don't recall ww being a problem in competitive play, did i miss something? Lol. Xin was trash tier competitive wise and they still nerfed him. And these WW nerfs are way more justified, he is pretty damn annoying in lane. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 01 2012 18:59 Chrispy wrote: Lol. Xin was trash tier competitive wise and they still nerfed him. And these WW nerfs are way more justified, he is pretty damn annoying in lane. They basically nerfed his lategame more. He is also not very strong in lane anyway and is super easy to counterpick. Compared to Yorick WW needed buffs. | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:07 Eppa! wrote: They basically nerfed his lategame more. He is also not very strong in lane anyway and is super easy to counterpick. Compared to Yorick WW needed buffs. Lanewick not strong? MMMMkay | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:18 Eppa! wrote: Lanewick hasn't had good lane control since forever. If you rune properly and pick a champ that either has strong harass or strong sustain you will win in CS if you know how to play vs WW. And then he just buys some armour or mr, whatever he needs and doesnt give a shit about your harass at a certain point. Not to mention his lane is incredibly easy to gank and even without farm he can still pick off out of position idiots with ult if someone else is nearby. Also tiamats on riven so good. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:21 JackDino wrote: And then he just buys some armour or mr, whatever he needs and doesnt give a shit about your harass at a certain point. Not to mention his lane is incredibly easy to gank and even without farm he can still pick off out of position idiots with ult if someone else is nearby. Also tiamats on riven so good. He isn't terrible but its not like he is some top tier top pick. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:33 Eppa! wrote: He isn't terrible but its not like he is some top tier top pick. Mid/lategame warwick is actually one of the strongest champs lol. Pro players also saying warwick is one of the strongest if not the strongest top laner. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Does your jungler hate your guts and never gank your lane? No? Okay let him come top every minute for a kill. He does? Okay gank mid every minute for a free kill. | ||
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
WW is strong he has stupid amounts of sustain and decent harass. His scaling if not great (I think it's pretty good) is at least decent. His ult is fucking stupid with an obscene CD with max CDR (which I build on him its reached with Shurelia;s and FH and Defense mastery) and the CDR gives him ALOT of Q spam which does good damage and he can permanently have W on. He does run into mana issues early on so you can't harass a great deal. EDIT: If I remember right endgame WW with the way I build him ends up on about 215 armour/mr and 2.8k health with 40% CDR, about 1.2 AtkSpd without W and ~130 damage not including wits. Btw my build is boots 3 --> wits/glacial --> lvl2 boots --> philo stone (I can understand why you don't like this but I do) --> whatever you didn't get --> Shurelia's --> finish FH if you haven't/ work on FoN --> last item I find to be variable MBR works, GA is good, FM is also good. Of course as with everything this is variable sometimes I have to go back with enough for philostone before I'm 'meant' to get it but I buy anyway or I get kindlegem first etc. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
Why must Riot nerf my favorite mid? | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:34 JackDino wrote: Mid/lategame warwick is actually one of the strongest champs lol. Pro players also saying warwick is one of the strongest if not the strongest top laner. Which ones? There is like nobody on EU that plays WW anymore. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:58 Eppa! wrote: Which ones? There is like nobody on EU that plays WW anymore. The koreans atleast, and caught it on swag stream. Nobody plays ww on eu because he always banned apparently. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 01 2012 20:00 JackDino wrote: The koreans atleast, and caught it on swag stream. Nobody plays ww on eu because he always banned apparently. In 3v3 maybe in 5v5 noway. | ||
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
Would you care to say why you don't think he's strong? | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On May 01 2012 19:54 Praetorial wrote: AAAA ZILEAN NERFS. Why must Riot nerf my favorite mid? Not sure if troll or... | ||
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Mios
United States686 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
No, I'm genuinely upset I can't flush mana down a toilet at level one. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On May 01 2012 20:06 valheru wrote: Would you care to say why you don't think he's strong? No AoE. Weak pressure before big mana item (mostly glacial) Ultimate is pretty good but once carry get qss it is really weak. His damage is subpar compared to most popular bruisers. He is not bad but he is not bbq good. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On May 01 2012 20:34 Eppa! wrote: No AoE. Weak pressure before big mana item (mostly glacial) Ultimate is pretty good but once carry get qss it is really weak. His damage is subpar compared to most popular bruisers. He is not bad but he is not bbq good. Great sustain Great initiate Can just kill opponent the moment he hits lvl 6 Forcing carries to build QSS is actually a plus He can still do okay-ish damage while building pure tank See, if I just list his good points, he suddenly looks OP. I do know there are better tops though, dw. | ||
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