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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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romanov
Netherlands892 Posts
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:37 romanov wrote: So i need some help on picking up a solid allround top champ for ranked. I pretty much own all top champs but can't really settle on one that is a strong allrounder. Prenerf it used to be iriela, do you guys think the buff's will make her strong enough again? I already tried Kennen, Rumble, Olaf, Warwick, Udyr but none of them work out for me :/ Was thinking maybe Vlad or Swain, do they get counterd really hard by anything? Also who absolutely shits all over Teemo? Seriously, fuck Teemo! Yorick shits on Teemo and I regulary beat Teemo with Jarvan For an allround topchamp I'd recommend Kennen Udyr and Shen. They do good against most toplaners. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
Out of the old standard of having Mercury's treads Banshees Frozen heart Wota Archangels Rylais I think you can now replace the rylais with a RoA since Ryze's ultimate now gives movespeed. Everything else should be pretty similar. The missile speed increase on his skills is nice but where I think it'll help the most is his E. It'll actually hurt and do damage now, if you get it to bounce between two targets, those two targets are taking serious damage at an insane speed.. Other than that, Sivir looks like she'll need a look into since her early game domination with a soraka + Sivir + dorans blade and a +20ish AD rune page will be even scarier. I like the kog nerf since it'll mean if you get caught in ooze you're less likely to go from 100-20 at levels 9-13. Annie might come back into popularity and levelling her E might become necessary. I know most people prefer to to go QWQWQRQEQ but having the skill to stack stun up fast might make the difference in a level 6 fight, even more so than the extra point in W. DFG is going to see far more use now with 750 range. Leblanc/Veigar are going to be beastly in lane since DFG gives even more AP than before. They'll get one chance to full combo you since they have much less mana regen but that one chance is going to succeed far more often than before. Most people saw the WotA nerf incoming since double WotA was just so strong. It'll still be good but that extra 400 gold means that melee top laners are going to have a much easier time against vlad/kennen since after they get their WotA they're pretty impossible to kill in lane unless you can 100-0 them. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:32 HazMat wrote: I'm going to start picking ghost flash on people again. Unless I'm like Kat I don't see why I need ignite/exhaust. edit: This isn't because of any patch change, just had an epiphany is all. What is this... 2009? Learn the meta, newb! | ||
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romanov
Netherlands892 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:39 ihasaKAROT wrote: Yorick shits on Teemo and I regulary beat Teemo with Jarvan Hmm only problem i have with Yorick is that he's sooooo boring  will give J4 a try, used to play him a lot pre 30 | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:50 romanov wrote: Hmm only problem i have with Yorick is that he's sooooo boring will give J4 a try, used to play him a lot pre 30Yorick is only boring when you just spam ghouls from a distance, if you run into a teamfight and hit people in the face its awesome  Jarvan does ALOT of damage with his E->Q->auto->W->auto combo | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
So in short overall good change for /all chat banters. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
Also time to bust out some more mummie in the jungle. | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
I thought supports were weaker because they got no gold? why does Riot need to make supports actual weaker champions too? I miss the days when my Sona was actually capable of soloing an AD at lvl 1.  | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
On May 01 2012 15:47 Lmui wrote: For Ryze early game shouldn't change much. Double catalysts seems like it'd become a thing though since RoA is now so good on Ryze. Looking at items, Out of the old standard of having Mercury's treads Banshees Frozen heart Wota Archangels Rylais I think you can now replace the rylais with a RoA since Ryze's ultimate now gives movespeed. Everything else should be pretty similar. The missile speed increase on his skills is nice but where I think it'll help the most is his E. It'll actually hurt and do damage now, if you get it to bounce between two targets, those two targets are taking serious damage at an insane speed.. Other than that, Sivir looks like she'll need a look into since her early game domination with a soraka + Sivir + dorans blade and a +20ish AD rune page will be even scarier. I like the kog nerf since it'll mean if you get caught in ooze you're less likely to go from 100-20 at levels 9-13. Annie might come back into popularity and levelling her E might become necessary. I know most people prefer to to go QWQWQRQEQ but having the skill to stack stun up fast might make the difference in a level 6 fight, even more so than the extra point in W. DFG is going to see far more use now with 750 range. Leblanc/Veigar are going to be beastly in lane since DFG gives even more AP than before. They'll get one chance to full combo you since they have much less mana regen but that one chance is going to succeed far more often than before. Most people saw the WotA nerf incoming since double WotA was just so strong. It'll still be good but that extra 400 gold means that melee top laners are going to have a much easier time against vlad/kennen since after they get their WotA they're pretty impossible to kill in lane unless you can 100-0 them. rylais not standard on ryze at all. that should be void staff. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Berailfor
441 Posts
Annie buffs are sweet though. | ||
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
Edit - Dumb question, read riot forum post. Six hours expected. As with any game patch, more or less or less we'll see. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On May 01 2012 16:57 Berailfor wrote: Yeah heal nerf is pretty huge. Seems like it's back to crap like before it's lategame scaling abilities. Now it not only doesn't scale as well lategame, but it's not as good early game. definitely back to ghost flash/flash exhaust on AD carries. Annie buffs are sweet though. I think for lots of ADs they'll be more likely to run Exhaust or Ignite. Exhaust if you don't expect to get kills in lane 'cause it's more useful late game, ignite if you are playing a more aggressive bot lane or you're against like Soraka or something. I dunno, we might see more Ghost/Flash on ADs but I feel like supports will probably run CV/Flash always now so if you want to go for kills in bot lane Exhaust or Ignite gonna be better than Ghost. I could see ADs like Kog'Maw or Ashe run Ghost/Flash again since they lack other escapes and because Ghost is so good on Ashe. edit: Was mentioned on last page I think but I've been wanting to start playing Morde again and with the DFG changes I think I'll pick him back up. He seems strong enough, probably not as good as old Morde still, and new DFG is probably core on him now. | ||
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