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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 01 2012 13:36 GMT
#121
Gotta go deeper, stream of someone streaming someone ingame spectating someones other stream.
KCCO!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 01 2012 13:37 GMT
#122
Is there something wrong with my client or are there no featured games to obs?
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
May 01 2012 13:38 GMT
#123
I cant seem to spectate my friends.Whenever i try to click on "spectate game" its gray....Any1 else with this problem?
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 01 2012 13:40 GMT
#124
On May 01 2012 22:36 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Gotta go deeper, stream of someone streaming someone ingame spectating someones other stream.

If streamer A watches stream B, and streamer B watches stream C, and streamer C watches stream D, and streamer D watches stream A, you could basically tune in to any of them and you'd all be watching stream A.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 01 2012 13:54 GMT
#125
On May 01 2012 22:40 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:36 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Gotta go deeper, stream of someone streaming someone ingame spectating someones other stream.

If streamer A watches stream B, and streamer B watches stream C, and streamer C watches stream D, and streamer D watches stream A, you could basically tune in to any of them and you'd all be watching stream A.

But would it be possible to plant the idea of taunting into stream D and have it work all the way up to stream A?
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
May 01 2012 13:56 GMT
#126
On May 01 2012 22:40 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:36 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Gotta go deeper, stream of someone streaming someone ingame spectating someones other stream.

If streamer A watches stream B, and streamer B watches stream C, and streamer C watches stream D, and streamer D watches stream A, you could basically tune in to any of them and you'd all be watching stream A.


no you would just see a never ending loop of slightly smaller windows, the same thing that happens when someone brings up xsplit window while streaming
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 01 2012 14:02 GMT
#127
Woudlnt with the delay. Would be fun to try
KCCO!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 01 2012 14:04 GMT
#128
On May 01 2012 20:52 SaYyId wrote:
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On May 01 2012 14:29 miicah wrote:
Ryze

General

Base missile speed increased to 2400 from 1400

Best part of the entire patch lol


Farming with him early game was so hard. His auto attack animation is sloppy and not fast enough. Even Veigar has a better animation, and I consider his pretty bad too.


Dunno, I got pretty used to after a while. Ditto for Veigar. Annie is really the only one I can think of that can be problematic. :>
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 01 2012 14:05 GMT
#129
On May 01 2012 22:06 Kaniol wrote:
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On May 01 2012 21:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Drop in spec is pretty cool, but it looks like it has 3 min delay kinda dumb if you're watching a friend waiting for them to get out of game. Part of the fun of watching a friend play is taunting them in real time.

/facepalm
How do you think they'd prevent people from mass cheating? You can block PMs but people can still communicate via VoIP, delay is a must


I understand the rationale behind it, but I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm of the mind that some people will abuse ghosting, and those people are assholes. That's why I don't put a delay on my stream - because I don't care that much. I know I'm the minority here, but that's my 2 cents.
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Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
May 01 2012 14:12 GMT
#130
Lich Bane worth it on Ryze now that you'll be getting more AP and have a better autoattack? Move speed nice with his new passive and it just seems to fit Ryze very well now.
Something like Tear --> RoA --> RoA (optional) --> Archangel's --> Lich Bane --> Frozen Heart/BV depending on enemy team comp, with Merc Treads somewhere in there. Ryze might be a bit more squishy built this way but the dmg. O_O

After all the Ryze changes, it probably will end up being the same standard item build as usual for Ryze with perhaps an RoA added early.
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Gnabgib
Profile Joined July 2009
United States381 Posts
May 01 2012 14:19 GMT
#131
On May 01 2012 14:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On May 01 2012 14:28 Perplex wrote:
This isn't the varus patch though. we're only getting spec mode and balance changes tomorrow :\


This is the Varus patch, minus the actual champion himself. Riot will most likely toggle him on/available for purchase in the store later this week.


Nope: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=23812364#23812364

Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22535 Posts
May 01 2012 14:26 GMT
#132
Alright. We're putting the finishing touches on Varus, the Arrow of Retribution and we're currently planning to release him next week outside of our normal update schedule. UPVOTES NAO.


Sounds like there wont be a patch and they'll indeed just turn him on to me.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 01 2012 14:29 GMT
#133
On May 01 2012 23:19 Gnabgib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 14:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
On May 01 2012 14:28 Perplex wrote:
This isn't the varus patch though. we're only getting spec mode and balance changes tomorrow :\


This is the Varus patch, minus the actual champion himself. Riot will most likely toggle him on/available for purchase in the store later this week.


Nope: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=23812364#23812364



Allow me to change "this week" to "next week".
Do you really think Riot is going to have a new patch, balancing champions again by next week?
Nope.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 14:43:35
May 01 2012 14:40 GMT
#134
Patched and logged in.

Looks like Riot is doing the smart thing and having 5 games "featured" over the client. You can select one out of the five game, cursor over to see who the players are, before committing to spectate.

I didn't recognize any of the players yet but I'll check again when more bigpros log on.

Edit: the list of 5 games refreshes rather quickly, seems like once every 10 min
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 01 2012 14:46 GMT
#135
On May 01 2012 23:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
Patched and logged in.

Looks like Riot is doing the smart thing and having 5 games "featured" over the client. You can select one out of the five game, cursor over to see who the players are, before committing to spectate.

I didn't recognize any of the players yet but I'll check again when more bigpros log on.

Edit: the list of 5 games refreshes rather quickly, seems like once every 10 min

I dunno bout them featured games, I just watched an arranged 5's where both teams were still unranked...
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 01 2012 14:50 GMT
#136
Riot probably needs to fix their MM algorithm for selecting featured spectator games. I saw only one game so far where a pro was in it (Xmithie).
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
May 01 2012 14:54 GMT
#137
Got further then me, I got 5 games of bots vs bots, tho the nasusbot was dominating all (pro bot)
KCCO!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11954 Posts
May 01 2012 14:54 GMT
#138
On May 01 2012 23:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 22:06 Kaniol wrote:
On May 01 2012 21:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Drop in spec is pretty cool, but it looks like it has 3 min delay kinda dumb if you're watching a friend waiting for them to get out of game. Part of the fun of watching a friend play is taunting them in real time.

/facepalm
How do you think they'd prevent people from mass cheating? You can block PMs but people can still communicate via VoIP, delay is a must


I understand the rationale behind it, but I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm of the mind that some people will abuse ghosting, and those people are assholes. That's why I don't put a delay on my stream - because I don't care that much. I know I'm the minority here, but that's my 2 cents.


Well, but that is completely different. That is you voluntarily accepting the danger of getting ghosted to provide a better streaming experience. Putting something like that officially into the game, without any choice for the players is pretty bad. And given the general lol community, it will be abused to the max. And even if it is would not be abused, you will put a lot of conflict potential into the game. Every time someone guesses something right, they will be accused of ghosting. And don't forget the absurd amount of reports for this that riot will get, additionally to the retarded reports they already get because someone died in a lane, or because someone got caught lategame. I am pretty sure that they don't want to deal with those either.

It is not even this, because you won't only have to deal with this by people on the enemy team, but by people on your team, too. I want to play a fair game, without maphack if you want to have it.

Sure, it would be nice to watch your friends in realtime, but then, if you want that, just get them to stream their games. Maybe it could work if you had a specific spectator mode where you can only view your friends mapvision, but even then the additional pair of eyes is a pretty large advantage. In general, i would say that the downsides of instant spectating outweight the upsides by far.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 15:01:23
May 01 2012 15:00 GMT
#139
On May 01 2012 23:54 Simberto wrote:
Sure, it would be nice to watch your friends in realtime, but then, if you want that, just get them to stream their games. Maybe it could work if you had a specific spectator mode where you can only view your friends mapvision, but even then the additional pair of eyes is a pretty large advantage. In general, i would say that the downsides of instant spectating outweight the upsides by far.

It's the same thing as getting a friend to sit next to you. You can't prevent it, there's no additional advantage.
boomer hands
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 01 2012 15:06 GMT
#140
Anyone else get this bug where wards show up as crit cloaks in peoples' inventories?
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