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On April 25 2012 17:47 emucxg wrote:
Randuins Omen:
Default slow duration reduced from 2 seconds, to 1 second.
never gonna buy Omen again
I'd still buy it. HoG is too good on my junglers and a good number of my top laners to not get in any situation I can afford to, and for teamfighting the active is godly, in addition to letting you tank AD carries when they get items.
On April 25 2012 17:42 NSANE.hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 17:23 benefluence wrote:
I've seen it said several times that the problem with blue buff is that it makes itemizing for CDR or mana regen mostly a waste of time. What do you guys think about making some or all of blue buff's mana regen scale with your existing mana regen instead of max mana?.
it's an cool and interesting idea, but tbh after the blue buffs nerf the mana regen part doesn't seem too out of hand right now. if anything, issues lie in the fact that you can just stack 3 drings and those + blue buff will give you ridiculous spamming ability, not just blue buff itself. also, it might present problems of have too much mana regen when combined with items like tear/archangels/chalice on champions with toggle abilities (swain, anivia).
Swain's stacking mana costs make it prohibitive to keep ultimate up for too long regardless. Swain, Anivia and kassadin in this regard all need more mana regen than the current game can really provide if they spam/sustain skills. It's just that they itemize mana to absorb the burst costs of mana usage so they can regen it back during downtime with blue buff.
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On April 25 2012 17:15 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
The heal comp is about burst healing a squishy target (or any target really). I'm guessing that if you can sustain past the initial long cd heals you can win. Or urgot swap onto a turret. Didn't CLG beat dignitas heal comp in the loser bracket?
Nah, they banned it out both games and then won. The trouble being able to sustain until all the heals/HP/armor buffs is that usually you pick a carry that will just wreck the opposing team if left to do free DPS with all the protection (Kog is a popular choice here). It gets quite difficult to be able to just survive any extended period of time vs. that much DPS, let alone be able to kill the rest of the team afterwards.
Those Annie buffs are nice, if they go through. And hooray for Amumu ult buff. I'm a little skeptical about the wota changes because there's no AP increase after combining the revolver and blasting wand (still 80 I presume). And Riot hates upgrading to items with no increases in a stat.
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On April 25 2012 17:47 emucxg wrote:
Randuins Omen:
Default slow duration reduced from 2 seconds, to 1 second.
never gonna buy Omen again
+0.5 sec for every 100 (Armor + MR). You will typically have at least 200 (Armor + MR) by the time you have Omen.
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Heal comp is obnoxious, but it's a gimmick. Once people stop and think about how to beat it it'll recede like most flavor of the month champions do once people realize that it isn't as invincible as it seems at first.
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Holy shit, if ALL the Ryze and item changes come through, the Ryzeman will be RETARDEDLY op. Meaning, even more than now.
Also, Talon level 1 rake for 20 mana? lol.
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On April 25 2012 18:36 spinesheath wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 17:47 emucxg wrote:
Randuins Omen:
Default slow duration reduced from 2 seconds, to 1 second.
never gonna buy Omen again +0.5 sec for every 100 (Armor + MR). You will typically have at least 200 (Armor + MR) by the time you have Omen.
That was already standard with omen.
Edit: also remember guys that these are unofficial patch notes and changes like the shen ult and the severity of the talon mana reductions have been confirmed to be false.
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On April 25 2012 19:39 Bwaaaa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 18:36 spinesheath wrote:On April 25 2012 17:47 emucxg wrote:
Randuins Omen:
Default slow duration reduced from 2 seconds, to 1 second.
never gonna buy Omen again +0.5 sec for every 100 (Armor + MR). You will typically have at least 200 (Armor + MR) by the time you have Omen. That was already standard with omen.
Obviously, but the actual slow duration never was as low as 2 seconds, and isn't just 1 second now. I was just pointing it out so that people don't get the wrong impression and dump Omen just like that.
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Mundo, best champ in the game not getting a nerf. Surreal.
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I may be jumping to conclusions, but this PBE patch might kill shen and put him back where he was pre-buff. Never mind, Morello commented on this saying it wasn't happening
Troll grail will make Galio OP as hell.
New haunting guise going to be really strong on Ryze/Cassio.
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why would Athene have an unholy grail?? oO
uh or is it related to the world of warcraft guy? I guess i understand then, he probably got people to do referrals for him?
why cant that guy use a different name -.-
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On April 25 2012 20:36 LaNague wrote:why would Athene have an unholy grail?? oO uh or is it related to the world of warcraft guy? I guess i understand then, he probably got people to do referrals for him? why cant that guy use a different name -.-
Oh ok. For a second I thought they were honoring him.
I think most of the changes are just things that the riot employees found OP in one of their games "ohmagawsh ryze can hit my annie with Q and I can't hit back. Nerf!" or stuff that goes into the forums. I don't agree with most of them but there's not much I can do.
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On April 25 2012 20:36 LaNague wrote:why would Athene have an unholy grail?? oO uh or is it related to the world of warcraft guy? I guess i understand then, he probably got people to do referrals for him? why cant that guy use a different name -.-
Yes, it's his referall reward. TB never got his though lol.
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the FoN change is insane. I like all the item changes, the new one is basicly an indirect buff to galio and all the manahungry ap carries and maybe bruisers. the new haunting guise looks very good and it is extremely costefficient if you can make use of the MS. I also really like the wota nerf because i started to hate spellvamp and how it affects ap carry gameplay. randuins is still the fully defensive armor piece and sunfire will be a good choice to rush in toplanes and on some junglers again.
but the champion balancing is extremely weird. Letting MF scale better with arpen early on is ridiculous because she is allready the strongest (overall) early game ad carry. the ryze changes are funny because his Q gets double the ap ratio if you didnt notice which makes him scale very good with ap. I mean 0.4 ratio on that cooldown is insane because you get 2+ of them Q's out when others get 1 out. then the new ult looks pretty amazing too. the amumu buffs looks very reasonable and I support them fully. I hate the shen global ult nerf. I don't even play shen, but his ult is the thing that makes him interesting. I'd rather have all the global travel ults reverted honestly because they made for interesting teamcomps, and changed how the map worked for both teams, forcing us to adapt, abuse and make interesting decisions. riot is extremely boring here and says: ok letz streamline it.
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On April 25 2012 20:53 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 20:36 LaNague wrote:why would Athene have an unholy grail?? oO uh or is it related to the world of warcraft guy? I guess i understand then, he probably got people to do referrals for him? why cant that guy use a different name -.- Oh ok. For a second I thought they were honoring him. I think most of the changes are just things that the riot employees found OP in one of their games "ohmagawsh ryze can hit my annie with Q and I can't hit back. Nerf!" or stuff that goes into the forums. I don't agree with most of them but there's not much I can do.
So your questioning Riots live balancing process with the "evidence" being that you don´t like it?
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On April 25 2012 21:11 clickrush wrote:
the FoN change is insane. I like all the item changes, the new one is basicly an indirect buff to galio and all the manahungry ap carries and maybe bruisers.
There is no FoN change. They just reworded the tooltip to be in terms of hp5. The numbers are the exact same.
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On April 25 2012 21:00 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 20:36 LaNague wrote:why would Athene have an unholy grail?? oO uh or is it related to the world of warcraft guy? I guess i understand then, he probably got people to do referrals for him? why cant that guy use a different name -.- Yes, it's his referall reward. TB never got his though lol.
I thought he got gentleman chogath skin kinda. He wanted a top hat item and chogath has that.
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Can anyone confirm if Deathfire Grasp still gives CDR and Mana Regen? They removed the Fiendish Codex from the recipe, so it would make sense if they removed those stats, but I can't seem to find this info anywhere.
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On April 25 2012 21:27 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 21:00 Goshawk. wrote:On April 25 2012 20:36 LaNague wrote:why would Athene have an unholy grail?? oO uh or is it related to the world of warcraft guy? I guess i understand then, he probably got people to do referrals for him? why cant that guy use a different name -.- Yes, it's his referall reward. TB never got his though lol. I thought he got gentleman chogath skin kinda. He wanted a top hat item and chogath has that.
Oh I guess, but I never associated that with him. :p
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Athenes holy grail and the new haunting guise are both pretty good on mumu. I was getting both chalice and force of nature but with the extra free mr I might consider getting one of them.
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