EPT[Patch 1.0.0.138: Hecarim] General Discussion - Page 88
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Antiochus
Canada548 Posts
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
It seems like pretty solid choices for the manaless ap types. Rumble and Haunting Guise in particular seem hand in hand for what he wants and how he wants to stay on people. I could see it working However the wota price hike once again slows things down for my favourite yordle champion I wouldn't be surprised if people start skipping over a WOTA and staying at revolver even more so then they are doing now. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
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jadoth
694 Posts
On April 25 2012 14:27 UniversalSnip wrote: I really want wota to be kinda bad since the item only makes sense as an abuse case on champs with free spells, but maybe they should remove the aura before adding enough gold on that it's just straight up unplayable...? wota is good on a fair amount of mana champs. karth cass ryze anivia. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On April 25 2012 14:28 zodde wrote: Athene's Unholy Grail, great name haha! :D Indirect Galio buff, since he already builds chalice all the time, could make chalice a much better item for everyone else than galio since it's no longer dead end. This... is an incredibly good insight. Straight up galio buff, and the previously mentioned veigar buff. Looks like people are getting that rework to ap champions after blue buff was changed. Maybe I'll get to start keeping it in the jungle now -_- (also interesting fact I won my last 3 nunu games because I got to take almost every single blue buff, even the one where we were really behind). edit: I also liked this comment because I suck at ap mid and want an easy boring ap other than more to play, and I was looking at galio, so a buff to him would make me happy. | ||
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Navi
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On April 25 2012 14:39 Kouda wrote: Ohmygod . Shen supernerf, LOL What did I miss now? :O @Above: Lol, how good of him to grant you his pardon :D | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Finally Shen ult nerf. Been bitching about that forever. Durr imma split push bot and then ult in for baron. Seriously, no one gets to do that unless you have teleport. -.- | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
Shen: Stand United global ranged reduced from 25000 to 5500. http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20189-unofficial-patch-notes-from-newest-beta-realm Edit: Ryze changes felt like a good nerf until I saw the change on the ult. >_< Amumu ult buff been needed for quite some time too though, so happy about that! | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On April 25 2012 15:02 Elem wrote: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/20189-unofficial-patch-notes-from-newest-beta-realm Edit: Ryze changes felt like a good nerf until I saw the change on the ult. >_< Amumu ult buff been needed for quite some time too though, so happy about that! Thanks for linking! :3 That ryze ult is pretty insane, also adding more AP ratio on Q and mana ratio on E should atleast compensate somewhat for the other damage nerfs. You do get some AP from WOTA/Void staff/Rylais/AA on ryze, so the ratio on Q is not useless at all, could even make AA a decent item instead of a thing to throw gold at when you're at 6 items. Shen is never gonna be played again pretty much, this nerf + the other nerfs is way too much. They should buff him in some other way, the only really good thing he had was his shield. Overall, this patch seems prettyyy good. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On April 25 2012 14:05 Inschato wrote: New recipes and any applicable item changes (Remember this is the PBE and many of these changes may never make it to the live servers): DFG: Kage's Pick + Blasting Wand + Amplifying Tomb (+20 AP, mp5 removed) So wait you said it still had CDR so now it gives 80 AP, the active, and 15% CDR? So you're only losing mana regen in place of 20 more AP? How is that a nerf when chalice just got an awesome buff for veigar? Now veigar can just grab both, instakill someone, get mana back, instakill someone else, get more back, repeat until team is dead :p | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
 Maybe they will reconsider the range, if you can still ult from jungle to mid/bot or mid/top just not top->bot or bot->top that might be a bit more reasonable. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On April 25 2012 15:19 BlackPaladin wrote: So wait you said it still had CDR so now it gives 80 AP, the active, and 15% CDR? So you're only losing mana regen in place of 20 more AP? How is that a nerf when chalice just got an awesome buff for veigar? Now veigar can just grab both, instakill someone, get mana back, instakill someone else, get more back, repeat until team is dead :p i think you lose the cdr... | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
I'm also sad that they ended up buffing mundo so he's viable, because I always liked him, and liked the green mundo skin, but didn't get it because mundo was fucking terrible. Now it's legacy and mundo is viable . | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On April 25 2012 14:34 jadoth wrote: wota is good on a fair amount of mana champs. karth cass ryze anivia. with the exception of anivia those guys all spam their primary spells. I worded it poorly but karth cass and ryze really aren't paying any relevant costs for dropping their primary spells on creeps by the time they can get wota. | ||
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