[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 92

Balanced Champions:

I am not going to comment on all of these, but I can say a blanket statement that these champions are what I would call balanced. They are not too powerful, and not to underwhelming.
Ahri
Akali
Alistar
Amumu
Annie
Ashe
Blitzcrank
Brand
Cassio
Chogath
Corki
Mundo
Ezreal (Iffy)
Fiora
Fizz
Galio
Gangplank
Garen
Gragas
Graves
Janna
Jarvan
Jax
Karthus
Kassadin
Katarina
Kayle
Kennen
Kogmaw
Leblanc
Leona
Lux (Iffy on this one)
Malphite
Malzahar
Maokai
MF
Morde
Nasus
Nautilus
Nidalee
Nocturne
Nunu
Orianna
Pantheon
Rammus
Renekton
Riven
Rumble (Iffy)
Ryze
Sejuani (Iffy, shes just CC no damage)
Shen
Singed
Sion
Sivir
Skarner
Sona
Soraka
Swain (Iffy, see Anivia)
Talon
Taric
Tristana
Trundle
Tryndamere
Twisted Fate
Urgot
Vayne
Vegiar (Iffy)
Vlad
Volibear
Wukong
Xerath
Ziggs
Zilean

Champions that need to be slightly Buffed/Nerfed

Ahri: I was reluctant to put Ahri on this list, but after more thought she is a little too powerful. She is similar to Morgana, except she is less gank-proof when her ultimate is on cooldown.

Anivia: After the bluebuff changes, Anivia needs a little buffing. While she does still have great creep clearing and her combo still hurts, She has a harder time fully contributing to teamfights now that she can't keep her ultimate up for as long with bluebuff. She needs a few QOL Changes and the scaling mana cost on her ultimate needs to be changed for her to be balanced (This is all imo, don't hate me for being wrong if I am).

Caityln: She simply needs a better lategame (With a slightly weaker earlygame to compensate). If she doesn't screw over the opponent in lane, she doesn't contribute much lategame except for her execute-ish ultimate and her range advantage (Which gets erased lategame by Kogmaw and Tristana.) Every other ranged AD carry has some way of heavily contributing to teamfights (Except vayne, but more on that later), and Caitlyn can do nothing but lay down useless traps and autoattack.

Fiddlesticks: The jungle changes a while back really hit fiddle hard. While his ult did get buffed semi-recently, he is still underwhelming if the opponents aren't dumb an know how to ward. I don't know what can really be changed on him to make him balanced, maybe give him a new passive or something, but for now Fiddle is just going to have to sit just below the average line.

Heimerdinger: He gets shut down way too easily. His main damage source are his turrets (ofc he had rockets and slow-moving grenade, but you can't use that efficently to farm without blue), and anyone that outranges those turrets (Basically everyone that isn't melee) can straight up stop heimer from farming in lane. He also has trouble contributing in teamfights if he doesn't have his turrets available. Its another case of not knowing how to buff him however, doing much with the turrets might be OP, but for now he is UP in my eyes.

Irelia: Those nerfs really hurt. I don't know how they can justify nerfing Irelia and leave other heavy sustainers like WW, Udyr and Yorick as they stand. She was pretty balanced before, RIOT went fucking around with stuff that wasn't broken, and what a surprise, they broke it. Revert the nerfs to her W and I'l call her balanced.

Karma: She is apparently getting a rework, so lets see where that takes us.

Lee Sin: Now we get into a few champions that are a bit above balanced. Lee just has too much of every category. He has damage, tankyness, survivability and burst. He is just too good at too many roles. I don't know if RIOT doesn't nerf him because they are afraid of Jessie Perring, but Lee in his current state is just a little too powerful in too many roles.

Lulu:Can't comment, new champion and I've never played her. Most people I have seen using her suck.

Master Yi: He has somewhat of the Xin Zhao syndrome. He is extremely powerful at low elo/solo queue, but in high elo and arranged 5s, he becomes nearly useless (unless he gets fed). I know he is one of the first characters released and he has been around a while, but he still isn't on the balanced line.

Morgana: Too easy for her power level. She is very forgiving with her black shield, can stay in lane forever with her innate sustain, and is nearly gankproof thanks to her Q and R. She has the same problem as Lee sin, she is too powerful in too many roles, and she is easyish to play to boot. Lower the sustain from her passive or change her incredible farming abilities.

Olaf: Those buffs made him quite strong. He is a tanky DPS that has burst similar to an assassin. Thats just not cool. Plus you have to factor in his true damage (The recoil damage is a good idea), and his crazy sustain lategame. Not so much the lee sin syndrome as much as lategame he will kill your carry and there is nothing you can do about it.

Poppy: Needs to farm, but can't. She needs some way to farm because in the current meta, most AD top laners can just bully her out of lane time after time and deny her the critical farm she needs. Of course, when she gets the farm she becomes pretty damn scary, but against a decent player the poppy can't do anything to keep up and farm.

Shaco: Abuses stupidity. Champions that abuse stupidity are extremely hard to balance. He can either be a nightmare or free kills depending on if the opponents know how to deal with him. Xin Zhao syndrome too, kills at low elo, becomes easily counterable at high elo/smart elo.

Shyvana: Nearly balanced, but a little more on the overpowered side. She just has too much mobility with her W. Nerf the movespeed on her W a bit and she will be balanced imo.

Teemo: Pretty useless aside from counterpicking certain tops. It may be just because he doesn't fit the current meta, but right now Teemo is underwhelming. He sucks as ranged ad (No attack steroid, low range), his AP role is heavily outshined and the only thing he is good for is pissing off the opponents.

Twitch: STEALTh REMAKE WHERE

Udyr: Too much sustain, unkillable lategame, too much damage from someone so tanky. See lee sin.

Viktor: According to the SSoVP, "Don't pick viktor, he is useless and can't kill anything".

Warwick See Udyr or Lee Sin. Also can't kill him in lane.

Xin Zhao See Master yi. No way to escape after committing to a fight, kill or be killed.

Yorick See Udyr/Lee/WW, although he is slightly less tanky than the others.

Champions that need to be removed until they are remade/balanced

Eve.