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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 27 2012 15:19 GMT
#1841
On March 28 2012 00:16 Dark_Chill wrote:
How do you guys feel about armor/level runes? Are they worth it?

Not worth it. The breakeven-point is relatively late IIRC and considering how easy armor is to itemize I'd much rather have flat ones.
currently rooting for myself.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
March 27 2012 15:20 GMT
#1842
On March 28 2012 00:05 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 23:40 Bwaaaa wrote:
Is anyone else watching saint dominate with mumu on stream?


lol, yeah, goes 9/2/18 and lowers his KDA on Mumu in ranked.

o.o


ya every time i see him play mumu he is just running around the map killing everyone.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:27:45
March 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#1843
On March 27 2012 23:52 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 23:25 57 Corvette wrote:
Off the top of my head, Ryze kills kennen hard, Shen should beat him toplane (somehow), Xerath, Wukong, a few others I can't remember.
You could also play tristana/gragas/lee/janna and just knock him away when he ults.


what top laner doesnt rumble destroy? i ban rumble every fucking game


Hell even nasus is fine against rumble. I've like yet to lose against a rumble in ranked. Guy doesn't scare me at all.

You just need to realize that his flame thrower does damage and not stand in it.

Anyone with good sustain is fine, a gap closer jump helps.
I think even Irelia will be fine, just play passive and farm like always. Jungler comes and kills and then you just kill him every time he comes in range when he's a level or so behind.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
March 27 2012 15:30 GMT
#1844
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:37:11
March 27 2012 15:31 GMT
#1845
On March 28 2012 00:30 Shauni wrote:
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.


You walk into melee range, you eat one tick of flamethrower, grats, wave will be pushed for the next forever. Farm at tower. The only way he can harass you is under your tower and even if he wards that's like a free kill for jungler or mid at any time from any direction. You just need enough MR (quints and blues flat at least) that any harass you do take won't kill you.

Like you just need to realize that the second he presses Q once you can sit at tower and lose maybe 1-2 cs before it comes to tower. The best he can hope for is that your jungler is always too busy to gank and even then he'll just have a cs advantage. (Although it's hard for rumble to farm under your tower, as soon as his Q is on cd you can do whatever you want and he can't do anything until his CD is up unless you're low enough to ult and chase)

I mean, if you die once, I can understand how the lane can snowball. Any time you do anything to him he already has revolver from the kill, and you lose so much hp since you don't have any gold to buy mr or any hp from levels that any time you eat any significant harass he can tower dive you. If the jungler comes and your 20% he double kills because he's fed from kill xp and gold and free farm. However you just need enough mr and sustain to keep dead even until you have enough MR to jump him and then outsustain his revolver or make him low enough for a gank = intsagib. Revolver sustain rumble isn't that high. If you chunk him he can get zoned VERY easily (farming with his E)

Theoretically a jungler waiting for counter gank would counter the whole wait for jungler thing, but I've had games where my jungler has sat mid and bot all game getting kills and shit, and I've just sit top even csing with rumble and their jungler at best can push tower 2v1, and other games jungler ganks once fairly early and suddenly rumble is just fucked.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 27 2012 15:31 GMT
#1846
On March 28 2012 00:30 Shauni wrote:
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.

Please go ahead and tell Teut how this game works. Please do it.
currently rooting for myself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 27 2012 15:36 GMT
#1847
TOO jungling Talon atm.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:38:05
March 27 2012 15:37 GMT
#1848
On March 28 2012 00:36 Alaric wrote:
TOO jungling Talon atm.



Can Talon even be played as a Support Jungler?
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 27 2012 15:38 GMT
#1849
To be fair, rumble's probably going to get his full flamethrower on you, not just 1 tick.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:44:48
March 27 2012 15:39 GMT
#1850
On March 28 2012 00:38 Juicyfruit wrote:
To be fair, rumble's probably going to get his full flamethrower on you, not just 1 tick.


Assuming you're close to tower, he has to chase into tower to do it though. If you literally don't walk right next to him to farm a creep, but that's bad news for any champ if the guy out trades you. If you're not close to tower, granted, you might eat a full flame thrower, but so will the creep line, and a potion clears that problem up fairly easily.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9806 Posts
March 27 2012 15:39 GMT
#1851
On March 28 2012 00:37 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:36 Alaric wrote:
TOO jungling Talon atm.



Can Talon even be played as a Support Jungler?

If you ult you can run around really fast to place your wards.
boomer hands
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:43:39
March 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#1852
From watching oddone play, I don't think he sees himself as a support player, he just lacks the "confidence" I guess to say "I'm going to take these 12 cs instead of the AP carry getting 6 of them, because If I get farmed I'm going to carry the SHIT out of this game". Like for example regi always tells oddone to "gtfo his farm" any time he tries to push lanes so he just ends up playing games only taking cs from jungle unless he has an excuse like "I'm pushing bot".

He always reacts to things as well. He always asks questions and tries to be in position for buffs even when they haven't decided to contest, meanning he could be flat out missing farm. Similarly if someone asks for a gank he will try to help them straight away and not bother waiting for the best time.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
March 27 2012 15:46 GMT
#1853
That's partially regi fault. Like I play soloq jungler, I am wary of taking cs from lanes cos the bitching and whining is hilarious, even if you are helping their lane and not just being greedy.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 27 2012 15:51 GMT
#1854
Basically, good guy oddone always sacrificing for his team.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:59:29
March 27 2012 15:56 GMT
#1855
At what point does sacrificing for your team become a bad thing? If you buy 20 wards and have no items it doesn't mean you're a good support. Granted a lot of people underbuy wards but some people over buy them as well. (oddone). Theoretically having only your AP carry and AD carry have any farm isn't a good thing because they can just hard dive them and they have to run away because they die in 1 CC anyway. You want two beastly bruisers who can punish their carries if they try to get past them, and still have CC for the bruisers that try to dive if needed.

I mean, I hear in dota you can stack farm on carries who can 1v5, but carries in LoL are nothing like that they just get insta gibbed so you need a whole team to be useful. Even the supports get gold items so they can have some items and they are picked because they don't need items that much. Junglers are usually really item dependent and giving your AP 50 cs and losing 50 yourself isn't necessarily good, and giving him 25 when you could have gotten 50 is always bad.

In fact sometimes I have mid laners like leblanc who camp bottom and just let me farm mid and the combination of me getting super fed and their ad carry getting destroyed makes it like a free win in teamfights. (mid laners are much better gankers than junglers )
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 27 2012 16:01 GMT
#1856
On March 28 2012 00:31 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:30 Shauni wrote:
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.

Please go ahead and tell Teut how this game works. Please do it.

Whenever I see that guy on someones stream he's always feeding. Always carrying too. Logics.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 27 2012 16:03 GMT
#1857
On March 28 2012 01:01 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:31 Shiv. wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:30 Shauni wrote:
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.

Please go ahead and tell Teut how this game works. Please do it.

Whenever I see that guy on someones stream he's always feeding. Always carrying too. Logics.

Whever I see him on stream he's carrying, whenever I see him in my team he's always feeding. *
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 27 2012 16:04 GMT
#1858
On March 28 2012 01:03 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 01:01 JackDino wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:31 Shiv. wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:30 Shauni wrote:
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.

Please go ahead and tell Teut how this game works. Please do it.

Whenever I see that guy on someones stream he's always feeding. Always carrying too. Logics.

Whever I see him on stream he's carrying, whenever I see him in my team he's always feeding. *

No he does both at the same time man.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
March 27 2012 16:12 GMT
#1859
He is masterbaiter.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
March 27 2012 16:15 GMT
#1860
On March 28 2012 01:04 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 01:03 Shikyo wrote:
On March 28 2012 01:01 JackDino wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:31 Shiv. wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:30 Shauni wrote:
it doesnt work like that, every time you walk into melee range to farm all he does it flamethrower you and chase you to your tower. repeat repeat repeat. if you dont have any range farm you'll lose cs and then lose lane.

Please go ahead and tell Teut how this game works. Please do it.

Whenever I see that guy on someones stream he's always feeding. Always carrying too. Logics.

Whever I see him on stream he's carrying, whenever I see him in my team he's always feeding. *

No he does both at the same time man.

You have to feed the enemy some kills so that you get more gold when you kill them later. Stronk logic bro.
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