EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 9
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Bambipwnsu
Canada698 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On March 20 2012 19:36 Erasme wrote: fuck, free Ori week means i'll see more brainless idiot playing her. So far I've seen about two decent ones(this week). As for the rest...it's painful to even talk about how badly they were feeding. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On March 20 2012 18:59 Craton wrote: It's very much the same. Shen ult can be used both offensively to gank and defensively to counter gank, just like all of the other global teleport ults. You SHOULD have to move toward a lane before you can instantly teleport to it. You should NOT be able to afk farm bot lane and then immediately join a fight at dragon or baron (especially when said split push is optimal play with 0 disadvantages). Nor should you be able to cross the entire map to counter gank from top to bottom. When you play against Shen you can't force objectives or gank unless you have a multiple person advantage going into it to offset Shen coming with a giant shield. This forces you to play passively and defensively, lest you try to go aggressive and get stung by the ult counter. It's especially shitty when Shen is the jungler because you can't even get the consolation prize of tower damage. The exact reason they nerfed all of the globals ults was because of all these abuse cases. Well, they overbuffed shen and apparently don't want to make him unviable again, so this is the only solution to bringing him in line with everything else. The shen ult in my opinion is much less aggressive than the Noc/Panth/TF ult. The reason is that you port to one of your teammates and not directly to the enemy. Yes you can use it with a bit of coordination for ganking, but the other ults let you literally jump on top of the enemy. I think that makes a big difference. You are of course right, that Shen forces you to be less aggressive but he doesn't really "gank" in those cases. I would also like to add, that from a technical point of view Shen's ult is the only one of the four mentioned so far that can be cancelled by killing his target. The shield will go off, but he does not port. I'm aware though that in most relevant cases, you won't be able to kill the target. But maybe if people get more used to play against Shen, they will start to take this into account at high levels of play. | ||
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On March 20 2012 20:43 Shikyo wrote: You don't need to nerf the shen ulti range... In my opinion just removing the shield and perhaps increasing the channeling time would at least fix it assuming it's broken. The shield is what made the ability. It was originally intended to be a "savior" ult, like Soraka's. Removing it would make it just a second teleport. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
Btw Triforce seems cool on her kekeke. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 20 2012 20:56 Praetorial wrote: The shield is what made the ability. It was originally intended to be a "savior" ult, like Soraka's. Removing it would make it just a second teleport. What makes the ability is you teleporting to your ally ;s | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:35 NeoIllusions wrote: Shaco Fixed a bug that caused Deceive to sometimes deal more damage than intended I once had a shaco hit me for 68% on one deceive with just a triforce. My immediate reaction was "that's batshit crazy." If that happened all the time, then I think it's safe to say that shaco isn't a big threat anymore. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On March 20 2012 20:17 Praetorial wrote: So far I've seen about two decent ones(this week). As for the rest...it's painful to even talk about how badly they were feeding. I main her. I don't know if i'll play this week since i'll probably be facepalming so hard every time someone take her and fail. | ||
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BlueSpace
Germany2182 Posts
On March 20 2012 21:13 JackDino wrote: You could make shen ult like noct ult, first cast will shield your selected ally, second cast will let you teleport if ally is in range. Or just run noct, use it during teamfight so shen can't tp, or just shadow shen and ult him when he ults;p I would propose to make the channeling time range dependent. The further away he is, the longer it takes to channel. This would give the enemy time to react and also makes his actual position a bit more relevant. This doesn't have to be linear. So doing it halfway across the map could have a really long channeling time. The ult would be still global, but they could tune it a bit better. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 20 2012 21:23 Zato-1 wrote: Riot effectively killed Anivia with this patch. Or they forced her to go bot lane with soraka. I think Riot hates AP mid. The reason AP mid exists is because of blue buff access | ||
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Gondlem
Australia642 Posts
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