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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 14:09:34
March 20 2012 14:08 GMT
#201
On March 20 2012 17:30 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 17:26 dooraven wrote:
Curse Njacky plays an excellent Veigar, probably the best in NA.


Best in the world more like. jiji's Veigar is strong too but I don't think he's played him as much. jiji went on a big Veigar spree right after his buffs and did really good in solo queue. Could probably look up vods on youtube. But yeah, Nyjacky is the best Veigar ever. He keeps stun at level 1 and can still full combo people who have mercs. It's sick.


I don't think nyjacky is a straight-up "better" Veigar than jiji, they play Veigar in two very distinct and opposite styles, with nyjacky opting to forego Q farm entirely in lane for harassing and looking for a quick level 6 kill threat, whereas jiji plays the much more common farm Q and play like pussy in lane until DFG. Jiji also, interestingly enough, opts to go for a RoA after DFG.

Scarra plays a very solid Veigar that's somewhere in the midpoint between the above two. He's actually a very good Veigar imo. I don't think any of the three is cut and dry 100% better than the other two.

Loci's Veigar is extremely overrated. He only got fame for it back when literally no one played him.
TranslatorBaa!
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 20 2012 14:19 GMT
#202
lulu is my favorite champion lol
And all is illuminated.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#203
I feel they should be hitting the CDR on the blue buff, not the Mana. There's so many CDR items that are completely fucking ignored because casters dont want to itemize CDR that they aren't going to use all the time - especially when you consider that the times they have blue buff are the times that they want to be looking to make powerplays.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 20 2012 14:25 GMT
#204
Guardsman Bob streaming Lulu if anyone is interested btw (on own3d.tv)
KCCO!
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
March 20 2012 14:25 GMT
#205
lulu's passive is riiculously strong.
And all is illuminated.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 14:33:20
March 20 2012 14:32 GMT
#206
On March 20 2012 23:25 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Guardsman Bob streaming Lulu if anyone is interested btw (on own3d.tv)


Looks like he doesn't yet have the hang of her Q.
0-3-0. All of those missed lances.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
March 20 2012 14:40 GMT
#207
On March 20 2012 22:06 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 21:55 Unentschieden wrote:
Anivia is too good with blue and too weak without it. She needs a bit attention but she certainly shouldn´t block bluebuff adjustments.
The changes might have huge consequences, for example it´s an indirect nerf to manaless junglers - their main benefit is that they can gift blue to mid very early.

=s If anything it's a buff to them because they clear faster than mana junglers now do with blue? They can still gift it just fine. Even with 1000 mana it's just a 33.33% nerf


Point is that Junglers are the ones least effected by the nerf. It´s a nerf to it´s scaling and at the point where there is a major difference ANY jungler cedes the buff to the AP.
There will most likely be tweaks to adress collateral from this but regarding junglers they´d get more mana from sigilmonsters rather than rebuff blue.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 20 2012 14:49 GMT
#208
I want to see an AP/AS Orianna (Nashor, rageblade, etc.) receive Pix from Lulu and start trucking people with 300+ magic damage auto-attacks.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 14:59:55
March 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#209
On March 20 2012 23:49 Alaric wrote:
I want to see an AP/AS Orianna (Nashor, rageblade, etc.) receive Pix from Lulu and start trucking people with 300+ magic damage auto-attacks.


That could actually work well as a bottom lane. Orianna benefits from pretty much all of Lulu's buffs and attacks, the harass would be excellent. Mana would be an issue though.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 20 2012 15:04 GMT
#210
On March 20 2012 23:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 17:30 overt wrote:
On March 20 2012 17:26 dooraven wrote:
Curse Njacky plays an excellent Veigar, probably the best in NA.


Best in the world more like. jiji's Veigar is strong too but I don't think he's played him as much. jiji went on a big Veigar spree right after his buffs and did really good in solo queue. Could probably look up vods on youtube. But yeah, Nyjacky is the best Veigar ever. He keeps stun at level 1 and can still full combo people who have mercs. It's sick.


I don't think nyjacky is a straight-up "better" Veigar than jiji, they play Veigar in two very distinct and opposite styles, with nyjacky opting to forego Q farm entirely in lane for harassing and looking for a quick level 6 kill threat, whereas jiji plays the much more common farm Q and play like pussy in lane until DFG. Jiji also, interestingly enough, opts to go for a RoA after DFG.

Scarra plays a very solid Veigar that's somewhere in the midpoint between the above two. He's actually a very good Veigar imo. I don't think any of the three is cut and dry 100% better than the other two.

Loci's Veigar is extremely overrated. He only got fame for it back when literally no one played him.



watch out, i got kicked from hazmats stream chat for saying that loci wasnt the second coming of jesus.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 15:09:04
March 20 2012 15:07 GMT
#211
On March 21 2012 00:04 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 23:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On March 20 2012 17:30 overt wrote:
On March 20 2012 17:26 dooraven wrote:
Curse Njacky plays an excellent Veigar, probably the best in NA.


Best in the world more like. jiji's Veigar is strong too but I don't think he's played him as much. jiji went on a big Veigar spree right after his buffs and did really good in solo queue. Could probably look up vods on youtube. But yeah, Nyjacky is the best Veigar ever. He keeps stun at level 1 and can still full combo people who have mercs. It's sick.


I don't think nyjacky is a straight-up "better" Veigar than jiji, they play Veigar in two very distinct and opposite styles, with nyjacky opting to forego Q farm entirely in lane for harassing and looking for a quick level 6 kill threat, whereas jiji plays the much more common farm Q and play like pussy in lane until DFG. Jiji also, interestingly enough, opts to go for a RoA after DFG.

Scarra plays a very solid Veigar that's somewhere in the midpoint between the above two. He's actually a very good Veigar imo. I don't think any of the three is cut and dry 100% better than the other two.

Loci's Veigar is extremely overrated. He only got fame for it back when literally no one played him.



watch out, i got kicked from hazmats stream chat for saying that loci wasnt the second coming of jesus.

If neo was awake he would ban you for this. Fair warning.

Not the second coming... what is this forum coming to?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 15:09:17
March 20 2012 15:08 GMT
#212
Anyone have the numbers on Lulu written down anywhere? Would love to know how everything scales into lategame with her.

edit: nm found em, wiki seems updated
KCCO!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 20 2012 15:08 GMT
#213
They're all on wiki.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 15:09:42
March 20 2012 15:09 GMT
#214
.7 AP on her Q, .6 on her E (both shield and damage), .5 on her R.
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
March 20 2012 15:18 GMT
#215
no fiora nerf ((
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 15:34:02
March 20 2012 15:30 GMT
#216
On March 21 2012 00:18 GoSuChicken wrote:
no fiora nerf ((


Theres no need to nerf fiora, for she is not broken. Shes a grand duelist, shes gonna beat most toplaners in a duel. She has no escape from a teamfight and is focussed down easily. In other words, shes a female XinZao and working as intended
KCCO!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
March 20 2012 15:34 GMT
#217
i dont think fiora is a very fun character ;/ not that she needs a nerf or anything but she just seems like shes designed to dive towers rather than 'carry' a team fight. q q r hurrr tower cant shoot me. boring hero i hope lulu is fun
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
March 20 2012 15:38 GMT
#218
On March 20 2012 20:17 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 19:36 Erasme wrote:
fuck, free Ori week means i'll see more brainless idiot playing her.


So far I've seen about two decent ones(this week).

As for the rest...it's painful to even talk about how badly they were feeding.


"This week"?

This free Orianna week started yesterday, let those free Orianna legions get to you before to think you're meeting bad ones? ^^
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 20 2012 15:39 GMT
#219
On March 21 2012 00:34 turdburgler wrote:
i dont think fiora is a very fun character ;/ not that she needs a nerf or anything but she just seems like shes designed to dive towers rather than 'carry' a team fight. q q r hurrr tower cant shoot me. boring hero i hope lulu is fun


What was that quote by Einstein again?

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”

Fiora excels at what shes suppost to do. Yes she cant carry teamfights that good because its hard to duel 5 people at once. Shes also a horrible AP carry and ranged AD, its not her role. Stop judging champions on different things that what they are in the game for.
KCCO!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 20 2012 15:43 GMT
#220
On March 21 2012 00:18 GoSuChicken wrote:
no fiora nerf ((

Nerfing something underpowered isn't a good idea... At least they fixed the Q bug, was really annoying to lose both stacks when I spammed it too fast.
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