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On March 20 2012 17:30 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 17:26 dooraven wrote:
Curse Njacky plays an excellent Veigar, probably the best in NA. Best in the world more like. jiji's Veigar is strong too but I don't think he's played him as much. jiji went on a big Veigar spree right after his buffs and did really good in solo queue. Could probably look up vods on youtube. But yeah, Nyjacky is the best Veigar ever. He keeps stun at level 1 and can still full combo people who have mercs. It's sick.
I don't think nyjacky is a straight-up "better" Veigar than jiji, they play Veigar in two very distinct and opposite styles, with nyjacky opting to forego Q farm entirely in lane for harassing and looking for a quick level 6 kill threat, whereas jiji plays the much more common farm Q and play like pussy in lane until DFG. Jiji also, interestingly enough, opts to go for a RoA after DFG.
Scarra plays a very solid Veigar that's somewhere in the midpoint between the above two. He's actually a very good Veigar imo. I don't think any of the three is cut and dry 100% better than the other two.
Loci's Veigar is extremely overrated. He only got fame for it back when literally no one played him.
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lulu is my favorite champion lol
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I feel they should be hitting the CDR on the blue buff, not the Mana. There's so many CDR items that are completely fucking ignored because casters dont want to itemize CDR that they aren't going to use all the time - especially when you consider that the times they have blue buff are the times that they want to be looking to make powerplays.
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Guardsman Bob streaming Lulu if anyone is interested btw (on own3d.tv)
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lulu's passive is riiculously strong.
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On March 20 2012 23:25 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Guardsman Bob streaming Lulu if anyone is interested btw (on own3d.tv)
Looks like he doesn't yet have the hang of her Q.
0-3-0. All of those missed lances.
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On March 20 2012 22:06 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 21:55 Unentschieden wrote:
Anivia is too good with blue and too weak without it. She needs a bit attention but she certainly shouldn´t block bluebuff adjustments.
The changes might have huge consequences, for example it´s an indirect nerf to manaless junglers - their main benefit is that they can gift blue to mid very early. =s If anything it's a buff to them because they clear faster than mana junglers now do with blue? They can still gift it just fine. Even with 1000 mana it's just a 33.33% nerf
Point is that Junglers are the ones least effected by the nerf. It´s a nerf to it´s scaling and at the point where there is a major difference ANY jungler cedes the buff to the AP.
There will most likely be tweaks to adress collateral from this but regarding junglers they´d get more mana from sigilmonsters rather than rebuff blue.
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I want to see an AP/AS Orianna (Nashor, rageblade, etc.) receive Pix from Lulu and start trucking people with 300+ magic damage auto-attacks.
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On March 20 2012 23:49 Alaric wrote:
I want to see an AP/AS Orianna (Nashor, rageblade, etc.) receive Pix from Lulu and start trucking people with 300+ magic damage auto-attacks.
That could actually work well as a bottom lane. Orianna benefits from pretty much all of Lulu's buffs and attacks, the harass would be excellent. Mana would be an issue though.
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On March 20 2012 23:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 17:30 overt wrote:On March 20 2012 17:26 dooraven wrote:
Curse Njacky plays an excellent Veigar, probably the best in NA. Best in the world more like. jiji's Veigar is strong too but I don't think he's played him as much. jiji went on a big Veigar spree right after his buffs and did really good in solo queue. Could probably look up vods on youtube. But yeah, Nyjacky is the best Veigar ever. He keeps stun at level 1 and can still full combo people who have mercs. It's sick. I don't think nyjacky is a straight-up "better" Veigar than jiji, they play Veigar in two very distinct and opposite styles, with nyjacky opting to forego Q farm entirely in lane for harassing and looking for a quick level 6 kill threat, whereas jiji plays the much more common farm Q and play like pussy in lane until DFG. Jiji also, interestingly enough, opts to go for a RoA after DFG. Scarra plays a very solid Veigar that's somewhere in the midpoint between the above two. He's actually a very good Veigar imo. I don't think any of the three is cut and dry 100% better than the other two. Loci's Veigar is extremely overrated. He only got fame for it back when literally no one played him.
watch out, i got kicked from hazmats stream chat for saying that loci wasnt the second coming of jesus.
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On March 21 2012 00:04 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On March 20 2012 17:30 overt wrote:On March 20 2012 17:26 dooraven wrote:
Curse Njacky plays an excellent Veigar, probably the best in NA. Best in the world more like. jiji's Veigar is strong too but I don't think he's played him as much. jiji went on a big Veigar spree right after his buffs and did really good in solo queue. Could probably look up vods on youtube. But yeah, Nyjacky is the best Veigar ever. He keeps stun at level 1 and can still full combo people who have mercs. It's sick. I don't think nyjacky is a straight-up "better" Veigar than jiji, they play Veigar in two very distinct and opposite styles, with nyjacky opting to forego Q farm entirely in lane for harassing and looking for a quick level 6 kill threat, whereas jiji plays the much more common farm Q and play like pussy in lane until DFG. Jiji also, interestingly enough, opts to go for a RoA after DFG. Scarra plays a very solid Veigar that's somewhere in the midpoint between the above two. He's actually a very good Veigar imo. I don't think any of the three is cut and dry 100% better than the other two. Loci's Veigar is extremely overrated. He only got fame for it back when literally no one played him. watch out, i got kicked from hazmats stream chat for saying that loci wasnt the second coming of jesus.
If neo was awake he would ban you for this. Fair warning.
Not the second coming... what is this forum coming to?
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Anyone have the numbers on Lulu written down anywhere? Would love to know how everything scales into lategame with her.
edit: nm found em, wiki seems updated
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.7 AP on her Q, .6 on her E (both shield and damage), .5 on her R.
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no fiora nerf  ((
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On March 21 2012 00:18 GoSuChicken wrote:no fiora nerf ((
Theres no need to nerf fiora, for she is not broken. Shes a grand duelist, shes gonna beat most toplaners in a duel. She has no escape from a teamfight and is focussed down easily. In other words, shes a female XinZao and working as intended
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i dont think fiora is a very fun character ;/ not that she needs a nerf or anything but she just seems like shes designed to dive towers rather than 'carry' a team fight. q q r hurrr tower cant shoot me. boring hero i hope lulu is fun
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On March 20 2012 20:17 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 19:36 Erasme wrote:
fuck, free Ori week means i'll see more brainless idiot playing her. So far I've seen about two decent ones(this week). As for the rest...it's painful to even talk about how badly they were feeding.
"This week"?
This free Orianna week started yesterday, let those free Orianna legions get to you before to think you're meeting bad ones? ^^
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On March 21 2012 00:34 turdburgler wrote:i dont think fiora is a very fun character ;/ not that she needs a nerf or anything but she just seems like shes designed to dive towers rather than 'carry' a team fight. q q r hurrr tower cant shoot me. boring hero i hope lulu is fun
What was that quote by Einstein again?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
Fiora excels at what shes suppost to do. Yes she cant carry teamfights that good because its hard to duel 5 people at once. Shes also a horrible AP carry and ranged AD, its not her role. Stop judging champions on different things that what they are in the game for.
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On March 21 2012 00:18 GoSuChicken wrote:no fiora nerf ((
Nerfing something underpowered isn't a good idea... At least they fixed the Q bug, was really annoying to lose both stacks when I spammed it too fast.
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