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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 01:18:45
March 27 2012 01:18 GMT
#1741
On March 27 2012 09:50 Bladeorade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 09:42 Praetorial wrote:
On March 27 2012 09:27 Alaric wrote:
On March 27 2012 09:25 Praetorial wrote:
Someone please give me some motivational advice!


On March 27 2012 09:25 Praetorial wrote:
My favorite champions ATM are Yorick (...)


It would be hard to say anything else to you that the fact is: you truly are a horrible person.


So...I like playing Yorick and he's awesome?

Yorick is a very fun champion to play, bullying lanes is highly amusing. But I already have a stable base of champions that I like to play, do you have any other suggestions?

On March 27 2012 09:35 BlackMagister wrote:
Xpecial streaming TSM poker game.

And if you can't communicate with your team with English you can at least use pings. I mean obviously them not being able to speak English is probably why they refuse to use English. For that it probably just sucks to play on the Euro server. You should also expect players skills to fluctuate a lot below level 30.


No, they don't even listen to pings. And I'm playing from the United States, Boston to be more specific.

Boston? Where abouts? I'm on the south shore


Newton-it's the city with the largest Jewish population, percentage wise.

However, literally half of everyone in my grade plays LoL, as there are a lot of Koreans and Chinese at my school.

Also, Yorick is a very fun and exciting champion, but I can see how playing against him must seem a drag.
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 27 2012 01:18 GMT
#1742
regarding runes

do ppl just buy all the runes or there are recommended strats for it?
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 27 2012 01:19 GMT
#1743
On March 27 2012 10:18 justiceknight wrote:
regarding runes

do ppl just buy all the runes or there are recommended strats for it?


Learn a few champions, get to level thirty, blow all your IP on a few specific rune pages.

Me, I just use the Rune Combiner because it's cheaper and more fun(if a tad wasteful).
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Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
March 27 2012 01:33 GMT
#1744
On March 27 2012 10:07 StUfF wrote:
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On March 27 2012 10:03 Alaric wrote:
On March 27 2012 09:49 Promises wrote:
Is he a bit of a forgotten pick or are there a lot of weaknesses to him?


He's a sleeper. Most people didn't realize (or straight up underestimated) the strength of his ganks and the punch his ult packs if you build some AS. There was a big focus on Frenzy, as it's a huge skill (for a given missing HP%, it basically inflicts more damage than Garen's ultimate until you try to hit a target that has around 4K HP, on a much shorter cd, and following a 60% AS boost) that got nerfed quite soon.


I think as a Top laner - he loses to almost everyone, I can't really think of a favourable match up.
As a jungler, his clear speed is fairly slow, again doesn't have many good match ups, and is fairly mana reliant if I recall last time I tried to jungle as him.


He doesn't really lose to anyone that bad outside the normal vlad/swain/kennen against most melee he's able to trade pretty effectively thanks to his E+W

As a jungler he can be a little slower but his ganks make up for it hardcore.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 27 2012 01:38 GMT
#1745
On March 27 2012 10:18 justiceknight wrote:
regarding runes

do ppl just buy all the runes or there are recommended strats for it?

There are some really general runes that are must haves. For example, you are going to see flat armor seals or hp/lvl seals on the vast majority of rune pages, and glyphs are similar in this too (flat mr, mr/lvl, ap/lvl). Marks get a little more diverse but it's with quints where most of the specialization goes into because there are so many options in there, and also because quints don't suffer from primary/secondary efficiency which the other three rune types do.

I would do something like this for your first two rune pages when you first start buying your tier 3 runes.

Page 1: arpen marks, armor seals, flat mr glyphs, ad quints
Page 2: mpen marks, armor seals, flat mr glyphs, ap quints

These are all super general runes that will cover most of your needs across a large number of champs. As time goes you'll make more pages for more specialized roles and champs but these 6 runes will be used across pretty much every single page in at least one way.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 27 2012 01:39 GMT
#1746
On March 27 2012 10:18 justiceknight wrote:
regarding runes

do ppl just buy all the runes or there are recommended strats for it?

Thread on buying runes
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245257

And yeah for your first rune page get a page that is useful for everyone than expand from there depending on who you like to play. Most players do not buy all the runes simply because it costs too much IP.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
March 27 2012 02:21 GMT
#1747

Page 1: arpen marks, armor seals, flat mr glyphs, ad quints
Page 2: mpen marks, armor seals, flat mr glyphs, ap quints


I use these two pages (actually do AD Reds, but w/e) for about 80% of my champions. If you jungle a lot, AS Reds are almost required on a lot of champions.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
March 27 2012 02:29 GMT
#1748
On March 27 2012 10:19 Praetorial wrote:
Me, I just use the Rune Combiner because it's cheaper and more fun(if a tad wasteful).



Unless you want every rune in the game, the rune combiner is a rather large net loss (and even then, the opportunity cost of time makes the gains fairly insignificant). I have the math if you want it.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 27 2012 02:32 GMT
#1749
On March 27 2012 11:29 ManyCookies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 10:19 Praetorial wrote:
Me, I just use the Rune Combiner because it's cheaper and more fun(if a tad wasteful).



Unless you want every rune in the game, the rune combiner is a rather large net loss (and even then, the opportunity cost of time makes the gains fairly insignificant). I have the math if you want it.


Actually, that would be great, could you PM it to me? I don't want to waste any more IP if this is the case.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
March 27 2012 02:39 GMT
#1750
ok im really dumb or something but where is the rune combiner -_-
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 27 2012 02:45 GMT
#1751
The blue button with the recycle icon in the bottom right next to the save runepage icon in the Runes section of your profile.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
March 27 2012 02:47 GMT
#1752
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 27 2012 03:17 GMT
#1753
Why do people run scaling MP5 yellows on casters as opposed to flat? I main mid and I like never run out of mana or see anyone run out past earlygame, but level 1-11 you can ALWAYS use wayyyy more.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 27 2012 03:18 GMT
#1754
On March 27 2012 12:17 sob3k wrote:
Why do people run scaling MP5 yellows on casters as opposed to flat? I main mid and I like never run out of mana or see anyone run out past earlygame, but level 1-11 you can ALWAYS use wayyyy more.

I think cause scaling pass flat at like lvl 3-4 or something by the time you're gonna need mp5 without blue buff.

plus it hink the only other attractive yellow option is armor, which is hardly useful mid lane
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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
March 27 2012 03:21 GMT
#1755
MP5/lvl catches up by lvl 6, and as a solo ap mid champ, you get 6 pretty fast.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 03:22:14
March 27 2012 03:21 GMT
#1756
On March 27 2012 12:17 sob3k wrote:
Why do people run scaling MP5 yellows on casters as opposed to flat? I main mid and I like never run out of mana or see anyone run out past earlygame, but level 1-11 you can ALWAYS use wayyyy more.


On almost every AP I run AP/lvl yellows cause I don't have mana issues with the vast majority of casters. I only run MR/lvl yellows on champions like Swain or Kassadin because I actually do run oom on them sometimes. And for top lane Swain I prefer armor yellows anyways.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 27 2012 03:25 GMT
#1757
On March 27 2012 12:18 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 12:17 sob3k wrote:
Why do people run scaling MP5 yellows on casters as opposed to flat? I main mid and I like never run out of mana or see anyone run out past earlygame, but level 1-11 you can ALWAYS use wayyyy more.

I think cause scaling pass flat at like lvl 3-4 or something by the time you're gonna need mp5 without blue buff.

plus it hink the only other attractive yellow option is armor, which is hardly useful mid lane


Armor is actually useful in mid lane considering most earlygame harasss is done by autos since they do similar damage to spells early on (a lvl 2 spell = 2 autos damage-wise) and you don't have a 7 second CD on an auto. Also mitigates minion damage when you do harass with autos.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 03:27:00
March 27 2012 03:26 GMT
#1758
played a couple games with a friend as lulu and I just did horribly, no idea how to play her properly. The per level scaling on the shield seems horrible so I guess I should have leveled Q? In that case she barely seems better than support lux lol.

I don't know, I just don't immediately understand what to do with her and that's kinda weird and unfun.
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Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
March 27 2012 04:27 GMT
#1759
On March 27 2012 12:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
played a couple games with a friend as lulu and I just did horribly, no idea how to play her properly. The per level scaling on the shield seems horrible so I guess I should have leveled Q? In that case she barely seems better than support lux lol.

I don't know, I just don't immediately understand what to do with her and that's kinda weird and unfun.


She has the ability to harass with E and Q as well as play defensive like janna. You have a cc that you can use on the ad carry if they engage (I think W is really good against corki engages for example).

Shes quite good against a kill lane imo and she can also harass pretty well. There's a video commentary by xspecial on solomid
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Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 04:33:03
March 27 2012 04:31 GMT
#1760
On March 27 2012 12:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
played a couple games with a friend as lulu and I just did horribly, no idea how to play her properly. The per level scaling on the shield seems horrible so I guess I should have leveled Q? In that case she barely seems better than support lux lol.

I don't know, I just don't immediately understand what to do with her and that's kinda weird and unfun.


Q max Lulu is very strong zoning. It doesn't cost very much mana and does a ton of damage compared to other support spells, and because her E has 650 range you can hit just about anyone with it without getting harassed back, which lets you land a Q for free. You just have to be careful about using EQ too much because E is much more mana inefficient so it will burn through your pool pretty quickly.

The reason she's a lot better than Lux is because both her ult and W give a ton of utility both offensively and defensively and her E giving vision through brush is great as well. Q slow is also amazing for chasing and escaping ganks. Basically all of her spells are useful in every situation if you decide how to use them properly.
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