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It would be nice for Anivia. From what I've seen in competitive play, standard play to shut her down is just to contest EVERY blue spawn. If it turns her from mediocre-bad without blue and godlike with blue into mediocre without and very good with blue then so be it. If there's an attack frame buff too that'd be nice 
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Lol, they're looking at Swain pretty intently. Probably my second best mid after Kennen.
First his AA animation and now his mana cost on ult? Should be something to see. Wouldn't be surprised if they buffed him some other way as well.
inb4 fotm Swain.
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On March 23 2012 04:26 bmn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 04:01 jimthelege wrote:
Ok, I'm gonna kind of ask a question thats pretty off topic but it's LoL related and I've no idea where to put it :D
I've basically never played ranked games. Been playing LoL for about a year and I love it. I've got over half the champions, 6-7 decent runepages and can play any role to at least a competant standard except jungle. I kinda wanna start ranked because I would like to know how good I actually am. But I hear and read so much crap about solo q that I've always thought is it worth it. Do you guys have any advice that would either start me doing it properly and really caring about where I end up, or is it better to keep playing the game simply becasue I enjoy it and relax while playing?
Probably an impossible thing to answer but figure I got nothing to lose by asking!!! In addition to what others have a said (all good advice). Do NOT care too much about where you end up. Doing so will shift your attention from your play to your ELO, which will take the fun out of it and not help you increase your ELO. While playing the game, *especially* at lower (certainly below 1300) ELOs, focus on - having a positive mindset, no matter what (you'll fail sometimes, but keep trying) - playing as good as you can in the circumstances - trying to get your team to play together Also, read Mogwai's firsts blog post (if not all of them). I'll go as far as saying that at low ELOs, unless you are very experienced (say, 1800+), your ability to keep the team from falling apart due to constant bickering and flaming will have a much larger impact on your ELO than your individual skill. Focus on improving and playing well, but more importantly, don't belittle or criticize teammates, provide either constructive advice or just general undirected positive comments if necessary (to defuse hostile situations). If you can keep teammates from ragequitting, or from giving up, you'll climb the ladder, have more time to improve your own skills, and you'll have a much more enjoyable experience.
I would even say that learning how to use the ignore function in the early stages of the game can win you 200 elo. I have no problems doing so and sometimes, unignored people during the game if things are going better and I think they have calmed down.
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On March 23 2012 05:43 Cloud9157 wrote:
Lol, they're looking at Swain pretty intently. Probably my second best mid after Kennen.
First his AA animation and now his mana cost on ult? Should be something to see. Wouldn't be surprised if they buffed him some other way as well.
inb4 fotm Swain.
I think the real issue is swain and anivias ult are balanced around a 1% blue which just got nerfed in half .
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On March 23 2012 05:47 whatwhatanut wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 05:43 Cloud9157 wrote:
Lol, they're looking at Swain pretty intently. Probably my second best mid after Kennen.
First his AA animation and now his mana cost on ult? Should be something to see. Wouldn't be surprised if they buffed him some other way as well.
inb4 fotm Swain. I think the real issue is swain and anivias ult are balanced around a 1% blue which just got nerfed in half .
It didn't get nerfed in half because the base mana regen remained the same.
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On March 23 2012 05:49 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 05:47 whatwhatanut wrote:On March 23 2012 05:43 Cloud9157 wrote:
Lol, they're looking at Swain pretty intently. Probably my second best mid after Kennen.
First his AA animation and now his mana cost on ult? Should be something to see. Wouldn't be surprised if they buffed him some other way as well.
inb4 fotm Swain. I think the real issue is swain and anivias ult are balanced around a 1% blue which just got nerfed in half . It didn't get nerfed in half because the base mana regen remained the same.
Lategame that's still going to be a nerf of ~1/3 of the total mana regen provided. For any AP that makes full use of blue (Anivia, Swain, Kassadin, Zilean, etc.), that's extremely noticeable.
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It's not that bad.
People just need to use their brain even with blue now. How shocking.
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lulu's champion spotlight is very disappointing, by that I don't mean lulu but phreak's build recommendations. He does not mention the constant flow of wards and oracles and even suggests to do a 6 item build. phreak has the possibility to show new and/or uninformed players how they could have a huge impact on their games providing mapcontrol and counterwarding but apart from the starting build and the "ward river" suggestion he doesn't even bother to go into a supports playstile. The champion spotlights could be such a good ressource that reaches everybody, so they can improve and learn more about the game but well...
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Surprisingly, many new/uninformed players will actually play lots of games where they'll reach 6 items on support. I've been watching a friend of mine level from 1-22 and pretty much any rule you can think of is routinely broken.
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I used to play AP Janna mid while leveing up. :$
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ATTN TL
i'm going to be doing a series on small things you can do to improve as a low elo player, that aren't necessarily skill-based things (i.e. i'm not gonna say "get better at last hitting" but rather "this is how you correctly take dragon"). i need a little help making some of the sequences. is anyone willing to help me for about an hour right now? might take a little less actually. respond to this, PM me, or pm me in-game "SG guitarasaurus"
running to the grocery store down the street to grab some candy i'll be back in 10 minutes, if anyone is willing to help i would greatly appreciate it
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If anyone can answer, please do.
How do you improve as a team? My friends and I are in a high school only tournament and we intend to win it, but we can't seem to improve. Every game we've won so far has just been one person carrying the team.
We've tried playing a bunch of ranked games together, but it's the same. We either win because one person gets extremely fed and destroys them, or we lose because we lost more lanes than we won.
I'm also curious about some team comps. For a poke comp, what are some good champions for the top laner and jungler to play? We could only think of mid + bot champs for this. Actually, what are some good team comps in general?
tldr; 1) How do you improve as a team?
2) What are some good team comps?
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On March 23 2012 06:36 Bezelheim wrote:
If anyone can answer, please do.
How do you improve as a team? My friends and I are in a high school only tournament and we intend to win it, but we can't seem to improve. Every game we've won so far has just been one person carrying the team.
We've tried playing a bunch of ranked games together, but it's the same. We either win because one person gets extremely fed and destroys them, or we lose because we lost more lanes than we won.
I'm also curious about some team comps. For a poke comp, what are some good champions for the top laner and jungler to play? We could only think of mid + bot champs for this. Actually, what are some good team comps in general?
tldr; 1) How do you improve as a team?
2) What are some good team comps?
communicate more, when something goes wrong discuss why it happened and how to fix it
try to go for objectives a bunch, help each other out if one lane is losing
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On March 23 2012 06:31 gtrsrs wrote:ATTN TL i'm going to be doing a series on small things you can do to improve as a low elo player, that aren't necessarily skill-based things (i.e. i'm not gonna say "get better at last hitting" but rather "this is how you correctly take dragon"). i need a little help making some of the sequences. is anyone willing to help me for about an hour right now? might take a little less actually. respond to this, PM me, or pm me in-game "SG guitarasaurus" running to the grocery store down the street to grab some candy i'll be back in 10 minutes, if anyone is willing to help i would greatly appreciate it
Give a shout if you need, have level 2 NA account and I has time \o/
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On March 23 2012 06:36 Bezelheim wrote:
If anyone can answer, please do.
How do you improve as a team? My friends and I are in a high school only tournament and we intend to win it, but we can't seem to improve. Every game we've won so far has just been one person carrying the team.
We've tried playing a bunch of ranked games together, but it's the same. We either win because one person gets extremely fed and destroys them, or we lose because we lost more lanes than we won.
I'm also curious about some team comps. For a poke comp, what are some good champions for the top laner and jungler to play? We could only think of mid + bot champs for this. Actually, what are some good team comps in general?
tldr; 1) How do you improve as a team?
2) What are some good team comps?
Well, there are some things you need to look at.
Are your lanes keeping up/winning in cs? How is your map/buff control? How often are ganks successful, and if they are, what made them so?
These are just a few of the considerations for a team. Without seeing your team's play first hand, it's hard to really give you a clear direction.
One of the biggest things is being able to recognize and acknowledge your mistakes. Once you do that, you can then figure out a course of action to fix them. Try not to get ragey. But if it does happen, try to put it aside until after the game, and then discuss it once you've cooled off.
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On March 23 2012 05:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
It's not that bad.
People just need to use their brain even with blue now. How shocking.
Pre-nerf you could still run oom on Swain in teamfights. Not being able to have ult up on him means you can't tank. It's not an issue of "use brain" his entire teamfight strength relies on his ult.
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On March 23 2012 06:36 Bezelheim wrote:
If anyone can answer, please do.
How do you improve as a team? My friends and I are in a high school only tournament and we intend to win it, but we can't seem to improve. Every game we've won so far has just been one person carrying the team.
We've tried playing a bunch of ranked games together, but it's the same. We either win because one person gets extremely fed and destroys them, or we lose because we lost more lanes than we won.
I'm also curious about some team comps. For a poke comp, what are some good champions for the top laner and jungler to play? We could only think of mid + bot champs for this. Actually, what are some good team comps in general?
tldr; 1) How do you improve as a team?
2) What are some good team comps?
Having the same issues as you guys and just playing/talking A LOT slowly makes you play better.This game is mostly about coordination as a team so unless you win all 3 lanes it's more important than individual skill.You could try having 1 person do all the calls but might not work at first.
Depends on what level you play.If you aren't playing on a top level I'd recommend some AOE compositions since they are pretty straight forward- PRESS R AND RUN AT THEM( /RUN AT THEM AND PRESS R).Otherwise you should watch some pro games and get a general idea.
And yeah I agree with the guy above DON'T rage/blame others and ask others what they think because very often you may not see your mistakes.
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On March 23 2012 06:36 Bezelheim wrote:
tldr; 1) How do you improve as a team?
2) What are some good team comps?
Communicate. At least half of everything that goes horribly, horribly wrong in TL B's games is a failure to communicate an intention or lack thereof, or just a really bad miscommunication. Stuff like people going back without asking first/saying anything, people running off to farm a lane without saying a word, everyone wordlessly doing their own thing when we should be doing something, miscommunication on a gank attempt, misinterpretation of "be ready for dragon". Communication is really the key to a strong team.
Beyond the standard team compositions, there's:- Poke Comp: Crush the opponent using superior poke and disengagement. Uses champions like Nidalee and Kog'maw for poke, and champions like Heimerdinger and Trundle for disengage. You need both poke and disengage in excess for it to work.
- Protect/Buff the Carry Comp: Crush the opponent by having a ridiculously buffed and unkillable carry, usually Kog'maw, Tristana or Vayne. Every other champion in the game buffs and/or protects the carry in one way or another. Typical champions include Warwick, Nunu, Janna, Lulu, Galio, Gangplank and Nidalee.
- AoE Comp: Pretty much everyone knows this one. Grab lots of champions with strong AoE abilities, smush the enemy team in tight spaces. Any champion with a "Press R to Win" ultimate qualifies. Works best when you clear Baron wards and then bait the enemy team into rushing through the tight corridors of the jungle, directly into ult after devastating ult.
- Double WotA: Any composition which uses two strong AP champions each building WotA. Sometimes uses a non-carry AP for the second WotA. As long as your APs don't get gibbed you can pretty much win any team fight through pure sustain, then when the enemy team builds MR to compensate your AD carry murders them for their conceit.
- Jungle Control: Something of a counterpick comp, and requires a lot of coordination and forethought. Top and mid champions have to be strong pushers, preferably mobile ones. Jungler should absolutely be mobile and/or a strong duelist. Ward the enemy jungle so you know where the jungler is, then top/mid/jungle collapses on them. Because the lanes are pushed you don't lose much for doing so, while the enemy team has to leave CS on the table constantly. With the enemy jungler on the ropes your team can be very aggressive while the enemy team has to play conservatively and give up objectives and farm. Use this to punish picks like Ryze and Irelia (poor pushers). Doesn't work so well against champions that can push back.
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On March 23 2012 03:15 BlackMagister wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 03:08 arb wrote:On March 23 2012 00:57 Chill wrote:On March 22 2012 22:47 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Doublelift is too predictable
HSGG keeps getting caught
Jiji doenst ward properly and counterpressure
Chauster and SV are the only ones that really seem to know what they are doing wrong
edit: doublelift saying hes not playing ashe today cus he doenst care? thats some nice dedication to practise... why are they in a teamhouse again? ... I don't get proteams. I don't know if they're just lazy or putting on an act on stream. It seems like they'd rather put in 16 hours of shitty practice than 4 hours of real practice. I feel like CLG and TSM legitimately need a babysitter / coach that has the final say, tells them what to do, and settles their dumb arguments. Or just get rid of Regi, I think he's the main source of alot of their problems(constant stupid mistakes + bad decisions) Eh it's been said in this thread before but TSM now has a coach. http://ggchronicle.com/team-solomid-acquires-new-coach/It's apparently a third Dinh. The coach/bro will address things like the infighting and other things like diet and sleep schedules. So yeah they hired a bro to be a mom, and he looks like the youngest bro from the video/stream shots he has been in.
o.O Dinhs just keep popping up. I wonder how many Dinhs there are
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On March 23 2012 06:47 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 05:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
It's not that bad.
People just need to use their brain even with blue now. How shocking. Pre-nerf you could still run oom on Swain in teamfights. Not being able to have ult up on him means you can't tank. It's not an issue of "use brain" his entire teamfight strength relies on his ult.
I think they need to be careful because Swain is a pretty dominant top laner already. I don't like him mid, as I stated in the swain thread, but his top lane vs melees doesn't even require you to use ult all that often. It is just so hard to put down damage on him when he has a 20% slow for 3s on an 8s cooldown (that is at one level in q only), not to mention a 2 second stun that isn't all that hard to hit.
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