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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 22 2012 12:09 GMT
#821
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
March 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#822
On March 22 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.


I don't know what kinda arguments or relationships you have, but to me it doesn't seem common at all. I do not see normal people act like this, only people who were raised a great deal on heavy internet usage.
True skill comes without effort.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 12:25:19
March 22 2012 12:18 GMT
#823
On March 22 2012 21:12 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.


I don't know what kinda arguments or relationships you have, but to me it doesn't seem common at all. I do not see normal people act like this, only people who were raised a great deal on heavy internet usage.

Act like what?

Please define "a normal person".
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
March 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#824
On March 22 2012 21:12 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.


I don't know what kinda arguments or relationships you have, but to me it doesn't seem common at all. I do not see normal people act like this, only people who were raised a great deal on heavy internet usage.



There is no need to bring other people's personal relationships or style of communication into question, whether it's CLG or someone else on these forums.

Playing in a competitive environment with four other players is not the same as discussing a business deal over coffee. Sit on a hockey bench when a line comes off the ice. If they gave up a goal or played poorly on their shift it's not going to be all peaches and cream.

Who are you to judge? No one is being overly aggressive or vile or mean.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 12:25:37
March 22 2012 12:24 GMT
#825
On March 22 2012 21:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:12 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.


I don't know what kinda arguments or relationships you have, but to me it doesn't seem common at all. I do not see normal people act like this, only people who were raised a great deal on heavy internet usage.



There is no need to bring other people's personal relationships or style of communication into question, whether it's CLG or someone else on these forums.

Playing in a competitive environment with four other players is not the same as discussing a business deal over coffee. Sit on a hockey bench when a line comes off the ice. If they gave up a goal or played poorly on their shift it's not going to be all peaches and cream.

Who are you to judge? No one is being overly aggressive or vile or mean.


Did you not hear hsgg and saintvicious when sv got caught warding tribush? If that isn't overaly aggro or vile or mean, then I dunno what is.

Btw they get paid to have people judge, that is why they air everything about their lives, so people can view it , scrutinize it, praise it. Meet the kardashians.

Btw when you can go from screaming your lungs off in hostility, to quiet, to screaming, rapidly... that isn't normal or healthy, at all.
True skill comes without effort.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
March 22 2012 12:30 GMT
#826
On March 22 2012 21:24 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:12 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.


I don't know what kinda arguments or relationships you have, but to me it doesn't seem common at all. I do not see normal people act like this, only people who were raised a great deal on heavy internet usage.



There is no need to bring other people's personal relationships or style of communication into question, whether it's CLG or someone else on these forums.

Playing in a competitive environment with four other players is not the same as discussing a business deal over coffee. Sit on a hockey bench when a line comes off the ice. If they gave up a goal or played poorly on their shift it's not going to be all peaches and cream.

Who are you to judge? No one is being overly aggressive or vile or mean.


Did you not hear hsgg and saintvicious when sv got caught warding tribush? If that isn't overaly aggro or vile or mean, then I dunno what is.

Btw they get paid to have people judge, that is why they air everything about their lives, so people can view it , scrutinize it, praise it. Meet the kardashians.

Btw when you can go from screaming your lungs off in hostility, to quiet, to screaming, rapidly... that isn't normal or healthy, at all.



Okay, fair enough. You enjoy sitting on the sideline being judgmental. To each their own. I'm done shitting up this thread.

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 22 2012 12:35 GMT
#827
You realize you're currently being far worse than the people you criticized for "having no life skills" and "not being normal"? And I'm not sure if I'm supposed to take what you said as a personal insult.

...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
March 22 2012 12:37 GMT
#828
To change the topic of the discussion, here's a random question:
Why did people stop playing Sivir?
A month ago she was the most popular AD carry, but I haven't seen her played in weeks.
"My spoon is too big."
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
March 22 2012 12:38 GMT
#829
On March 22 2012 21:37 Antyee wrote:
To change the topic of the discussion, here's a random question:
Why did people stop playing Sivir?
A month ago she was the most popular AD carry, but I haven't seen her played in weeks.


I don't think she scaled well individually , relative to some of the other popular ad carries, her ult has utility but it wasn't as great as people initially made it out to be.
True skill comes without effort.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 22 2012 12:45 GMT
#830
On March 22 2012 21:37 Antyee wrote:
To change the topic of the discussion, here's a random question:
Why did people stop playing Sivir?
A month ago she was the most popular AD carry, but I haven't seen her played in weeks.

They nerfed her ult and in LoL even the small nerfs make people stop playing characters :D(her q too if I remember correctly).
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
March 22 2012 12:46 GMT
#831
On March 22 2012 21:38 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:37 Antyee wrote:
To change the topic of the discussion, here's a random question:
Why did people stop playing Sivir?
A month ago she was the most popular AD carry, but I haven't seen her played in weeks.


I don't think she scaled well individually , relative to some of the other popular ad carries, her ult has utility but it wasn't as great as people initially made it out to be.


That's probably true, but I feel like something like Sivir-Taric or Sivir-Soraka could bully the shit out of the nowdays so popular Janna-Ashe lane, especially since the new jungle trends prefer "carry" junglers over "support" junglers, which could let lanes be more aggressive.
Haven't tried it yet since noone wants to play Sivir, but I think it could work pretty well.
"My spoon is too big."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 22 2012 12:50 GMT
#832
Is double the dumbest player on a competitive team? Based on that game, I would say yes.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
March 22 2012 12:50 GMT
#833
People don't play Sivir because they nerfeed boomerang blade's base damage and also moved the AD ratio back to 1.0 (which never should have been raised to 1.1), and then knocked off half the duration of her ultimate. She was obnoxious early game because of the sheer amount of damage she did- now it's not so bad laning against her, and on top of that her ultimate doesn't last very long at all.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 12:51:31
March 22 2012 12:51 GMT
#834
On March 22 2012 21:24 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:12 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:09 Shikyo wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:04 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

Well I'm not quite sure about that >_>

Saint seems like an absolute nightmare to argue with as does hotshot to a bit lesser extent. Chauster kind of as well but he seems to at least have good points. However I still don't understand what you're talking about, this isn't at all worse than what you commonly have in say, your average relationship or just a standard argument. Unless you're saying like 80% of the people in the world don't have "life skills" whatever the fuck that means.


I don't know what kinda arguments or relationships you have, but to me it doesn't seem common at all. I do not see normal people act like this, only people who were raised a great deal on heavy internet usage.



There is no need to bring other people's personal relationships or style of communication into question, whether it's CLG or someone else on these forums.

Playing in a competitive environment with four other players is not the same as discussing a business deal over coffee. Sit on a hockey bench when a line comes off the ice. If they gave up a goal or played poorly on their shift it's not going to be all peaches and cream.

Who are you to judge? No one is being overly aggressive or vile or mean.


Did you not hear hsgg and saintvicious when sv got caught warding tribush? If that isn't overaly aggro or vile or mean, then I dunno what is.

Btw they get paid to have people judge, that is why they air everything about their lives, so people can view it , scrutinize it, praise it. Meet the kardashians.

Btw when you can go from screaming your lungs off in hostility, to quiet, to screaming, rapidly... that isn't normal or healthy, at all.

I like flowers.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
March 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#835
I have no idea why people stopped playing sivir her main advantage beside from the utility of her ult is a spamable auto attack reset that can crit.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 12:54:51
March 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#836
On March 22 2012 21:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Is double the dumbest player on a competitive team? Based on that game, I would say yes.


Double at the end was silly, but hsgg got caught way more times that game than double, his itemization was poor, and he refused to upgrade his revolver to wota despite having him and tf and ww.

They told him to get wota like 50x and he never did... even by the end of the game.
True skill comes without effort.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
March 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#837
On March 22 2012 21:38 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:37 Antyee wrote:
To change the topic of the discussion, here's a random question:
Why did people stop playing Sivir?
A month ago she was the most popular AD carry, but I haven't seen her played in weeks.


I don't think she scaled well individually , relative to some of the other popular ad carries, her ult has utility but it wasn't as great as people initially made it out to be.


Pretty much this. They nerfed her strongest damaging ability twice and hit her ult's utility hard.

These are the nerfs she's gotten since her remake:
V1.0.0.133:
Boomerang Blade
Damage reduced to 60/105/150/195/240 from 70/115/160/205/250
Bonus attack damage ratio reduced to 1.0 from 1.1
On The Hunt
Movement speed bonus reduced to 20% from 25%
Duration reduced to 10 from 15
V1.0.0.131:
Boomerang Blade
Base damage reduced to 70/115/160/205/250 from 80/125/170/215/260.
Now scales with ability power at a 0.5 ratio.
Bambipwnsu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada698 Posts
March 22 2012 13:02 GMT
#838
Ad carry with no hard escape...i'd rather have ashe or protect the kog.
LoL @ NA: bambipwnsu
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 22 2012 13:03 GMT
#839
On March 22 2012 21:53 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Is double the dumbest player on a competitive team? Based on that game, I would say yes.


Double at the end was silly, but hsgg got caught way more times that game than double, his itemization was poor, and he refused to upgrade his revolver to wota despite having him and tf and ww.

They told him to get wota like 50x and he never did... even by the end of the game.


They bounced back from that tho, doublelifts mistake was fatal. The ult on 3 people teleporting was good, but then he went the wrong way and cost the game.
KCCO!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 22 2012 13:04 GMT
#840
On March 22 2012 22:03 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 21:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 21:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
Is double the dumbest player on a competitive team? Based on that game, I would say yes.


Double at the end was silly, but hsgg got caught way more times that game than double, his itemization was poor, and he refused to upgrade his revolver to wota despite having him and tf and ww.

They told him to get wota like 50x and he never did... even by the end of the game.


They bounced back from that tho, doublelifts mistake was fatal. The ult on 3 people teleporting was good, but then he went the wrong way and cost the game.

The best part was there was NO reason for him to go there. Like at all. I dont think a 1500 player would make that mistake.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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