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BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
March 22 2012 08:44 GMT
#781
On March 22 2012 16:02 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 15:46 zodde wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:28 Cloud9157 wrote:
Bring back WCG Reginald. =\


I didn't follow the LoL scene back then, so please fill me in on this. Has he gotten considerably worse or has the other players just gotten better? I find it strange that someone who plays a game this much could drop in actual skill (not relative skill). What did he get worse at specifically? Did he always act like a douche to his teammates (even when he was carrying hardcore)?

He's not any worse. He's not particularily bad right now, eve. Just inconsistent - like he's always been. Really, really inconsistent. Flashes of brilliance and plays that are better than what all but a select few players can do, followed by trying those kinds of plays and failing spectacularly. What happened was everyone got bored with shitting all over TheRainMan and everything he does (plus it felt lousy after he left TSM) so they decided to start shitting all over Regi and everything he does. Just like people did with Jatt, Hotshot, Doublelift.... the LoL community can be a fickle bitch. Though it certainly doesn't help Reginald's cause that he has a personality that really rubs people (including me) entirely the wrong way.


People were complaining about Regi and his attitude way before TRM left TSM. Also the criticism towards TRM was always directed more towards his play and not so much his personality. People were always complaining that Regi is difficult, but this was mostly overlooked, when he was playing well.

I agree though that there is a mentality in the lol community to find the weakest link in a team and place all the blame on that person. It also happens in Solo Q all the time. Whoever fucks up the most will get blamed for the loss.


On March 22 2012 16:29 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 16:25 jadoth wrote:
if anyone is offended it is because he plays bad and then yells at his team for it and calls Xpecial a faggot.

It's up to Xpecial to get offended about that. Getting offended on the behalf of someone else is stupid.


There is so much wrong with this statement, that I don't even know where to start. It's your business to not show compassion towards others, but to call other people stupid for doing so, is something else.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 22 2012 09:08 GMT
#782
On March 22 2012 17:44 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 16:02 Treadmill wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:46 zodde wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:28 Cloud9157 wrote:
Bring back WCG Reginald. =\


I didn't follow the LoL scene back then, so please fill me in on this. Has he gotten considerably worse or has the other players just gotten better? I find it strange that someone who plays a game this much could drop in actual skill (not relative skill). What did he get worse at specifically? Did he always act like a douche to his teammates (even when he was carrying hardcore)?

He's not any worse. He's not particularily bad right now, eve. Just inconsistent - like he's always been. Really, really inconsistent. Flashes of brilliance and plays that are better than what all but a select few players can do, followed by trying those kinds of plays and failing spectacularly. What happened was everyone got bored with shitting all over TheRainMan and everything he does (plus it felt lousy after he left TSM) so they decided to start shitting all over Regi and everything he does. Just like people did with Jatt, Hotshot, Doublelift.... the LoL community can be a fickle bitch. Though it certainly doesn't help Reginald's cause that he has a personality that really rubs people (including me) entirely the wrong way.


Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 16:29 Treadmill wrote:
On March 22 2012 16:25 jadoth wrote:
if anyone is offended it is because he plays bad and then yells at his team for it and calls Xpecial a faggot.

It's up to Xpecial to get offended about that. Getting offended on the behalf of someone else is stupid.


There is so much wrong with this statement, that I don't even know where to start. It's your business to not show compassion towards others, but to call other people stupid for doing so, is something else.

Well, there actually is no point in getting offended because some random says something. When it's a teammate/friend however it's a whole different story.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
March 22 2012 09:09 GMT
#783
Reginald's attitude and personality has been criticized before TSM was even formed. It has always been an issue.

Bro bro bro bro bro.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
March 22 2012 09:09 GMT
#784
Sv and jiji both ended up on the same team in solo queue (they did not duo). This is going to be a stomp...
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 22 2012 09:21 GMT
#785
These Koreans, they're intelligent.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 22 2012 09:23 GMT
#786
On March 22 2012 18:09 dignity wrote:
Sv and jiji both ended up on the same team in solo queue (they did not duo). This is going to be a stomp...

Really? I just tuned in to SV stream and i though they are duo . Gonna switch to jj stream now since I watch to much SV already.
Terran
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
March 22 2012 09:33 GMT
#787
I'm not sure why they don't duo. It wouldn't affect their queue times very much given how low they are atm.
twitch.tv/cratonz
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 22 2012 09:36 GMT
#788
Im well happy with Lulu, shes so versatile! Great champion design imo, passive might get tweaked a little I think but shes sooo fun to play. After lvl4 you are ungankable with E and W on yourself, slowing your followers with Q. I wrecked a leesin, gp, riven, rumble and ww toplane with her, wasnt even close. Im not the best of players so if I can do well with her...

The ult is the least impressive skill , but still very very nice (popped it on a karthus just before he flashed in).

The enemy Lulu popped her ulti on her Jarvan while he ulted 2, he wasnt amused
KCCO!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 22 2012 09:36 GMT
#789
they duoing now lulz. many stomps incoming.
GANDHISAUCE
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
March 22 2012 09:37 GMT
#790
They are duo queuing now. I think they didn't to start because all the other clg members were setting up their game stations.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 09:44:19
March 22 2012 09:43 GMT
#791
I'm still mixed on how strong Lulu is. I feel the haste lasts too long, but the polymorph is underwhelming. The ult is very strong, especially when used to follow up on a tank initiating or a melee for them to stick like glue to a carry. Passive seems okay. Really hate her Q, though. It's such a generic line "nuke" that really doesn't do much. The forking thing really adds almost nothing to her kit.

It feels like her lane presence is just lacking, but her kit is good for team fights (minus Q which sucks).
twitch.tv/cratonz
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 22 2012 09:48 GMT
#792
On March 22 2012 18:43 Craton wrote:
I'm still mixed on how strong Lulu is. I feel the haste lasts too long, but the polymorph is underwhelming. The ult is very strong, especially when used to follow up on a tank initiating or a melee for them to stick like glue to a carry. Passive seems okay. Really hate her Q, though. It's such a generic line "nuke" that really doesn't do much. The forking thing really adds almost nothing to her kit.

It feels like her lane presence is just lacking, but her kit is good for team fights (minus Q which sucks).


When you E someone and then Q, it opens up a whole new level of the skill tho. I killed alot of people yesterday that were 'safe' just because someone on their team had my E on them and I could use Q to finish them off. The forking is new, the slow is a nice addition and the damage isnt bad. This champ delivers fun!
KCCO!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 09:56:47
March 22 2012 09:56 GMT
#793
On March 22 2012 18:43 Craton wrote:
I'm still mixed on how strong Lulu is. I feel the haste lasts too long, but the polymorph is underwhelming. The ult is very strong, especially when used to follow up on a tank initiating or a melee for them to stick like glue to a carry. Passive seems okay. Really hate her Q, though. It's such a generic line "nuke" that really doesn't do much. The forking thing really adds almost nothing to her kit.

It feels like her lane presence is just lacking, but her kit is good for team fights (minus Q which sucks).

You could just stick to your carry aswell and it'd be really hard to kill your carry. Q slows for 80%, great to help your carry kite.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 22 2012 10:02 GMT
#794
On March 22 2012 18:08 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 17:44 BlueSpace wrote:
On March 22 2012 16:02 Treadmill wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:46 zodde wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:28 Cloud9157 wrote:
Bring back WCG Reginald. =\


I didn't follow the LoL scene back then, so please fill me in on this. Has he gotten considerably worse or has the other players just gotten better? I find it strange that someone who plays a game this much could drop in actual skill (not relative skill). What did he get worse at specifically? Did he always act like a douche to his teammates (even when he was carrying hardcore)?

He's not any worse. He's not particularily bad right now, eve. Just inconsistent - like he's always been. Really, really inconsistent. Flashes of brilliance and plays that are better than what all but a select few players can do, followed by trying those kinds of plays and failing spectacularly. What happened was everyone got bored with shitting all over TheRainMan and everything he does (plus it felt lousy after he left TSM) so they decided to start shitting all over Regi and everything he does. Just like people did with Jatt, Hotshot, Doublelift.... the LoL community can be a fickle bitch. Though it certainly doesn't help Reginald's cause that he has a personality that really rubs people (including me) entirely the wrong way.


On March 22 2012 16:29 Treadmill wrote:
On March 22 2012 16:25 jadoth wrote:
if anyone is offended it is because he plays bad and then yells at his team for it and calls Xpecial a faggot.

It's up to Xpecial to get offended about that. Getting offended on the behalf of someone else is stupid.


There is so much wrong with this statement, that I don't even know where to start. It's your business to not show compassion towards others, but to call other people stupid for doing so, is something else.

Well, there actually is no point in getting offended because some random says something. When it's a teammate/friend however it's a whole different story.


It's not okay because using faggot or gay as an insulting pejorative is insulting and ignorant and he should be ashamed for not only saying it, but also for being a cruel and hateful person to his so called friends. He props himself up in a public and very visible location, all of his actions while in this state can and should be criticized. He has a terrible attitude and major maturity issues. He wants to make the calls and be the leader of his team, but his leadership skills amount to insults, projecting, and blame deflection.
Remember Violet.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 22 2012 10:09 GMT
#795
On March 22 2012 19:02 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 18:08 JackDino wrote:
On March 22 2012 17:44 BlueSpace wrote:
On March 22 2012 16:02 Treadmill wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:46 zodde wrote:
On March 22 2012 15:28 Cloud9157 wrote:
Bring back WCG Reginald. =\


I didn't follow the LoL scene back then, so please fill me in on this. Has he gotten considerably worse or has the other players just gotten better? I find it strange that someone who plays a game this much could drop in actual skill (not relative skill). What did he get worse at specifically? Did he always act like a douche to his teammates (even when he was carrying hardcore)?

He's not any worse. He's not particularily bad right now, eve. Just inconsistent - like he's always been. Really, really inconsistent. Flashes of brilliance and plays that are better than what all but a select few players can do, followed by trying those kinds of plays and failing spectacularly. What happened was everyone got bored with shitting all over TheRainMan and everything he does (plus it felt lousy after he left TSM) so they decided to start shitting all over Regi and everything he does. Just like people did with Jatt, Hotshot, Doublelift.... the LoL community can be a fickle bitch. Though it certainly doesn't help Reginald's cause that he has a personality that really rubs people (including me) entirely the wrong way.


On March 22 2012 16:29 Treadmill wrote:
On March 22 2012 16:25 jadoth wrote:
if anyone is offended it is because he plays bad and then yells at his team for it and calls Xpecial a faggot.

It's up to Xpecial to get offended about that. Getting offended on the behalf of someone else is stupid.


There is so much wrong with this statement, that I don't even know where to start. It's your business to not show compassion towards others, but to call other people stupid for doing so, is something else.

Well, there actually is no point in getting offended because some random says something. When it's a teammate/friend however it's a whole different story.


It's not okay because using faggot or gay as an insulting pejorative is insulting and ignorant and he should be ashamed for not only saying it, but also for being a cruel and hateful person to his so called friends. He props himself up in a public and very visible location, all of his actions while in this state can and should be criticized. He has a terrible attitude and major maturity issues. He wants to make the calls and be the leader of his team, but his leadership skills amount to insults, projecting, and blame deflection.

The problem isn't with regi, the problem is with the rest of TSM. As long as they let him get away with it, why should he change? Don't understand why tsm doesn't do anything when it's 4v1. They don't rely on regi as much as people think, it's more like regi relies on them.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 10:12:46
March 22 2012 10:11 GMT
#796
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.
Remember Violet.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 22 2012 10:12 GMT
#797
As I said Xspecial just needs to man up and tell regi to go fuck himself.
Cackle™
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
March 22 2012 10:12 GMT
#798
i like how the higher clg gets on korea ladder, the more people have english names/speak english. also real trolls there. reminds me of na server loll.
GANDHISAUCE
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 22 2012 10:13 GMT
#799
On March 22 2012 19:12 De4ngus wrote:
i like how the higher clg gets on korea ladder, the more people have english names/speak english. also real trolls there. reminds me of na server loll.

Korean AP kennen likes to come to lane with manapots :|
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 22 2012 10:14 GMT
#800
On March 22 2012 18:43 Craton wrote:
(minus Q which sucks).


dat 80% AOE infinite range slow at level 1, so bad, much worse than janna's similar, much lower-range, single-target, much lower %-slow
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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