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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 22 2012 10:32 GMT
#801
On March 22 2012 19:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.

Xpecial isn't a fucking child anymore, he should man up. If none of tsm bothers to do something about regi they will only get worse, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get stomped in the next 2 tournies or so and disband.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
March 22 2012 10:35 GMT
#802
Huh... I thought lulu's Q was more comparable to janna tornado

Janna's w slow last 4 seconds at all levels though. It's hard to compare directly. Along with it's unit collision passive
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 22 2012 10:45 GMT
#803
On March 22 2012 19:32 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 19:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.

Xpecial isn't a fucking child anymore, he should man up. If none of tsm bothers to do something about regi they will only get worse, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get stomped in the next 2 tournies or so and disband.

I'm not arguing that, I just think you're wrong for saying it's not Regi's fault that he's an incredibly caustic child.
Remember Violet.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 10:51:49
March 22 2012 10:50 GMT
#804
On March 22 2012 19:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 19:32 JackDino wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.

Xpecial isn't a fucking child anymore, he should man up. If none of tsm bothers to do something about regi they will only get worse, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get stomped in the next 2 tournies or so and disband.

I'm not arguing that, I just think you're wrong for saying it's not Regi's fault that he's an incredibly caustic child.

It kinda is if no one points it out to him, regi not knowing any better. If no one actually tells Regi to change, how should he know if everyone pretends to be fine with it. TSM is basically wasting their time "practicing" like this.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 22 2012 10:51 GMT
#805
On March 22 2012 19:50 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 19:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:32 JackDino wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.

Xpecial isn't a fucking child anymore, he should man up. If none of tsm bothers to do something about regi they will only get worse, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get stomped in the next 2 tournies or so and disband.

I'm not arguing that, I just think you're wrong for saying it's not Regi's fault that he's an incredibly caustic child.

It kinda is if no one points it out to him, regi not knowing any better. If no one actually tells Regi to change, how should he know if everyone pretends to be fine with it.

It's called common sense
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 22 2012 11:07 GMT
#806
On March 22 2012 19:50 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 19:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:32 JackDino wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.

Xpecial isn't a fucking child anymore, he should man up. If none of tsm bothers to do something about regi they will only get worse, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get stomped in the next 2 tournies or so and disband.

I'm not arguing that, I just think you're wrong for saying it's not Regi's fault that he's an incredibly caustic child.

It kinda is if no one points it out to him, regi not knowing any better. If no one actually tells Regi to change, how should he know if everyone pretends to be fine with it. TSM is basically wasting their time "practicing" like this.


if regi had no societal influences i would be more inclined to believe that it isn't his fault via ignorance. most social practices, however, tend to avoid the rude behavior that regi exhibits, especially so in a team setting.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
March 22 2012 11:11 GMT
#807
On March 22 2012 19:50 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 19:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:32 JackDino wrote:
On March 22 2012 19:11 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Because the rest of TSM are very mild mannered (Xspecial or Chaox) or are similarly minded (TRM and Oddone). Dyrus is new to the actual teamplay so I'm not sure what his reaction will be to being told to "Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot" every scrim.

Anyhow, no, it's not the victim's fault for being abused. This is entirely on Reginald. It would expedite the process if his friends took him up on his crap, but they can't be blamed for not wanting to drive him out more than Regi should be blamed for all of his personal shortcomings.

Xpecial isn't a fucking child anymore, he should man up. If none of tsm bothers to do something about regi they will only get worse, and I wouldn't be surprised if they get stomped in the next 2 tournies or so and disband.

I'm not arguing that, I just think you're wrong for saying it's not Regi's fault that he's an incredibly caustic child.

It kinda is if no one points it out to him, regi not knowing any better. If no one actually tells Regi to change, how should he know if everyone pretends to be fine with it. TSM is basically wasting their time "practicing" like this.

Of course nobody talks back to regi he is steam captain and they want to stay on his good side.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 22 2012 11:12 GMT
#808
I just went against a lulu top as nasus. She's not the best top lane ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 22 2012 11:23 GMT
#809
On March 22 2012 20:12 Erasme wrote:
I just went against a lulu top as nasus. She's not the best top lane ever.


Nice to see we still judge things by a sample of 1.

100% sucky Lulu top vs nasus!! ....

I played as Lulu top yesterday and beat everyone, I think we need more time and more samples. Shes not the best toplane ever, but shes very good from the games ive played and seen.
KCCO!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 22 2012 11:32 GMT
#810
Does anyone know if EU-NA transfers are still coming?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 11:36:12
March 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#811
Reginald hasn't gotten worse, players and their teams have just gotten better.

His scrubby over-aggro playstyle doesn't work vs top level teamwork. It was good early in the game before teams developed strong teamwork, because he could just bully people with high burst damage casters, but now they punish him for it.

This happens in any big competitive game, the game evolves, some people who were abusing some aspect of the game get phased out, because play becomes more refined.

And reginald's behavior is his fault and his alone, he is an "adult" now and is responsible and accountable for his own behavior. Are TSM enabling him? Well who knows, maybe he can't handle a dose of bluntness, maybe that would make him too butthurt.
True skill comes without effort.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 22 2012 11:38 GMT
#812
On March 22 2012 20:35 robertdinh wrote:
Reginald hasn't gotten worse, players and their teams have just gotten better.

So from a relative point of view, he has gotten worst >.>

There is no such thing like «absolute skill» in a competitive human VS human game.
The legend of Darien lives on
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 22 2012 11:42 GMT
#813
On March 22 2012 20:23 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 20:12 Erasme wrote:
I just went against a lulu top as nasus. She's not the best top lane ever.


Nice to see we still judge things by a sample of 1.

100% sucky Lulu top vs nasus!! ....

I played as Lulu top yesterday and beat everyone, I think we need more time and more samples. Shes not the best toplane ever, but shes very good from the games ive played and seen.

What I meant is that you can't roll your face over your keyboard and win as Lulu :p
I couldn't kill her tho, but she wasn't able to farm much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
March 22 2012 11:49 GMT
#814
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 11:51:50
March 22 2012 11:51 GMT
#815
Lmao,TSM and CLG are such polar opposites,even when arguing.
When TSM argues Regi shuts everyone down,when CLG argues with Hotshot everyone gangs up on him when he is being stupid lol.Even Doublelift dares to shut HS up.(even tho HS doesn't shut up sometimes because he is HS)
Cackle™
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
March 22 2012 11:53 GMT
#816
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.

User was warned for this post
True skill comes without effort.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
March 22 2012 11:57 GMT
#817
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 22 2012 12:03 GMT
#818
Are you guys watching SV stream? Man I really don't like HSGG, just because for some reason he has a huge fanbase he seems to think he's some kind of god or something whereas he's clearly the weak point in CLG (except when DL goes full derp).
His whole team are saying that he played badly, doesn't listen when they say to group up, doesn't admit his mistakes and he's like "The game was lost anyway bla bla, I kept ultying bot and mid (he was GP) and they still lost, it's their fault if we lose, etc...", while building Chalice and Spirit Visage...
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 12:05:45
March 22 2012 12:04 GMT
#819
On March 22 2012 20:57 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 20:53 robertdinh wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:49 TooL wrote:
god i find this bickering so fucking annoying (clg scrim)


I love it, it shows how fail these people are in life.



It doesn't show this at all. Competitive people in any team oriented activity argue. Whether business, relationships or sports, it's bound to happen.

Whether it goes anywhere and resolves an issue is another matter.


The way they argue, the type of "logic" they use, isn't efficient at all. For most people growing up they develop certain life skills, a lot of these players lack those life skills, they don't seem to know how to really talk to other people in an intelligible and articulate way.

On March 22 2012 21:03 Lylat wrote:
Are you guys watching SV stream? Man I really don't like HSGG, just because for some reason he has a huge fanbase he seems to think he's some kind of god or something whereas he's clearly the weak point in CLG (except when DL goes full derp).
His whole team are saying that he played badly, doesn't listen when they say to group up, doesn't admit his mistakes and he's like "The game was lost anyway bla bla, I kept ultying bot and mid (he was GP) and they still lost, it's their fault if we lose, etc...", while building Chalice and Spirit Visage...


I actually had a discussion with a guy about this yesterday... about not caring about the result of a game, and always looking to improve upon your own mistakes. A scrim is a scrim, it isn't about winning or losing, it's about doing the most you can to improve.
True skill comes without effort.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 22 2012 12:05 GMT
#820
Saint:"If we fail bot lane ganks with leona/ww/tf/ezreal,I'm quittin the team and joining TSM to loose against 1.3 ks"
Cackle™
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