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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 12 2012 18:33 GMT
#5481
Malphite = mana costs and cooldowns
Lee Sin = Free Wriggles and Revolver for no cost
Just shield his Q and hit creeps to heal back.

No reason to lose that lane. You probably just didn't abuse his cooldowns (jump in when he Q's you and full combo him) or you're not using W sustain...
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#5482
On April 13 2012 02:47 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 02:45 Eiii wrote:
Plus, one to two weeks of work to make karma balanced and fully produce one or more new skins seems super-optimistic.



if you think they start the new champs the 2 weeks before they come out I don't know what to tell you


What? I meant it'd take months of work instead of the week or two the first poster suggested o_O
:3
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 12 2012 18:50 GMT
#5483
I dont think anyone suggested that.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
April 12 2012 19:13 GMT
#5484
so how does one play lulu toplane? AD or AP? what to max after Q? W or E? 21/9/0 with double penetration masteries? AD marks/quints?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 12 2012 19:20 GMT
#5485
On April 13 2012 04:13 Celial wrote:
so how does one play lulu toplane? AD or AP? what to max after Q? W or E? 21/9/0 with double penetration masteries? AD marks/quints?


It's ap lulu not ad lulu.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2012 19:24 GMT
#5486
On April 13 2012 04:13 Celial wrote:
so how does one play lulu toplane? AD or AP? what to max after Q? W or E? 21/9/0 with double penetration masteries? AD marks/quints?

imo you build as if you are a female teemo
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 12 2012 19:27 GMT
#5487
After trying lulu top, I honestly think that Teemo's just better at it. I know how it looks on paper and all that nonsense, but the unconditional MS from Move Quick and the practical advantages of Toxic Shot vs. Lulu passive end up being pretty huge. Also Mushrooms.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#5488
On April 13 2012 04:27 Mogwai wrote:
After trying lulu top, I honestly think that Teemo's just better at it. I know how it looks on paper and all that nonsense, but the unconditional MS from Move Quick and the practical advantages of Toxic Shot vs. Lulu passive end up being pretty huge. Also Mushrooms.

Lulu is way more valuable in a teamfight imo.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 19:32:27
April 12 2012 19:32 GMT
#5489
On April 13 2012 04:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 04:13 Celial wrote:
so how does one play lulu toplane? AD or AP? what to max after Q? W or E? 21/9/0 with double penetration masteries? AD marks/quints?

imo you build as if you are a female teemo


How do you build her as teemo. And u autoattack in fights?
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
April 12 2012 19:33 GMT
#5490
--- Nuked ---
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
April 12 2012 19:37 GMT
#5491
yeah i figured attack speed would be really good on her, that passive REALLY hurts at all stages. when i play support, i KS the most with her (closely followed by leona lol, that Q too stronk).
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 12 2012 19:38 GMT
#5492
On April 13 2012 04:33 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 03:07 Zhiroo wrote:
If they made Karma a viable support I'd buy her.

I hope they don't touch karma. At all. I'd be severely unhappy if they do.

they've said pretty clearly that they will be.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 19:47:57
April 12 2012 19:42 GMT
#5493
On April 13 2012 04:28 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 04:27 Mogwai wrote:
After trying lulu top, I honestly think that Teemo's just better at it. I know how it looks on paper and all that nonsense, but the unconditional MS from Move Quick and the practical advantages of Toxic Shot vs. Lulu passive end up being pretty huge. Also Mushrooms.

Lulu is way more valuable in a teamfight imo.


This, the games at IPL where Boytoy used Lulu he lost lane but got enough gold to be OP in teamfights in the process.

that said not a worthwhile strat in solo que. where Soraka mid translates, Lulu top is arranged 5s imo.
Carrilord has arrived.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
April 12 2012 19:49 GMT
#5494
On April 13 2012 04:37 Celial wrote:
yeah i figured attack speed would be really good on her, that passive REALLY hurts at all stages. when i play support, i KS the most with her (closely followed by leona lol, that Q too stronk).


Sona? :D I even have an accidental triple on her
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#5495
is there something up with the na severs right now? i have had an unusually high amount of people disconecting over the past few days and in champ select everything is really sluggish.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
April 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#5496
On April 13 2012 04:27 Mogwai wrote:
After trying lulu top, I honestly think that Teemo's just better at it. I know how it looks on paper and all that nonsense, but the unconditional MS from Move Quick and the practical advantages of Toxic Shot vs. Lulu passive end up being pretty huge. Also Mushrooms.


Except teemo has massive utility later in the game while teemo just runs around being a nuisance?
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
April 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#5497
On April 13 2012 04:49 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 04:37 Celial wrote:
yeah i figured attack speed would be really good on her, that passive REALLY hurts at all stages. when i play support, i KS the most with her (closely followed by leona lol, that Q too stronk).


Sona? :D I even have an accidental triple on her

Back when I was leveling my account with a couple friends and we reached 20+ and discovered the current metagame we were insistent on playing Sona as support every single game. Well, there was a game when the player with a toplane champ (Master Yi iirc) refused to go top but just went bottom with our AD carry. Sona top went legendary in less than ten minutes against two opponents. My friend was like "I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IM DOING QWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQWQW ALL DAY". Those were the days... <3
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 12 2012 20:08 GMT
#5498
When sona first came out I played her as a solo mid with a tear into mejaj. She was so broken back then you were pretty much garunteed to get 20 stacks by the end of the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 12 2012 20:11 GMT
#5499
Question for some high lvl junglers, what are your thoughts on attackspeed vs arpen reds? And which ones would give you a faster clear on junglers that deal mainly physical damage?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 20:16:30
April 12 2012 20:14 GMT
#5500
On April 13 2012 05:08 Two_DoWn wrote:
When sona first came out I played her as a solo mid with a tear into mejaj. She was so broken back then you were pretty much garunteed to get 20 stacks by the end of the game.

yea when sona came out her burst was redonkulous. you charge your Q then walk into lane and Q+auto them at lvl 1 for half their health or something ridiculous. then you do it again 30 seconds later.

On April 13 2012 05:11 JackDino wrote:
Question for some high lvl junglers, what are your thoughts on attackspeed vs arpen reds? And which ones would give you a faster clear on junglers that deal mainly physical damage?

generally, attack speed is better iirc. altho if you want armor pen you should get ~12-15 armor pen and stop there because that's the amount it takes to penetrate big wraith's armor.
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