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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
March 21 2012 12:29 GMT
#461
On March 21 2012 18:48 Shikyo wrote:
So just played vs yorick and...


Hey guys lets nerf all sustain so that Yorick can't be beat even with wriggles and doran blade stacking!

(Just to make it clear I did win the lane but I still think yorick is ridiculous after the lifesteal nerfs / Riot must have missed something in their spree)

at below you know that nasus Q farm is mana capped not creep capped right?


Eh, Yorick's sustain is pretty good but not really the reason he's so strong. He wins lanes because he's so damn powerful at just standing and fighting, and he's also very good at forcing you to do so or take loads of free damage.

Who were you playing? If Yorick doesn't win lane he's pretty mediocre. Udyr rips him a new one, Rumble can hold his own. Those are the only match-ups I've had trouble with. I still don't get how Xin is supposed to win, gonna have to try that one out...
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
March 21 2012 12:30 GMT
#462
I keep getting chu8's playlist confused with mine lol

and he apparantly thinks ap lulu = op. I've only seen support so far and they were terrible, but maybe it's different in mid?
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Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
March 21 2012 12:33 GMT
#463
I tried her in custom AP, it is pretty strong but not as your regular AP. She's very durable with her ult etc, but she lacks spammability or pure burst. It's a bit like a Karma mid or something. As support I think she's very, very strong, she has all things (slows, speed, shield, heal, silence).
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
March 21 2012 12:36 GMT
#464
On March 21 2012 21:29 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 18:48 Shikyo wrote:
So just played vs yorick and...


Hey guys lets nerf all sustain so that Yorick can't be beat even with wriggles and doran blade stacking!

(Just to make it clear I did win the lane but I still think yorick is ridiculous after the lifesteal nerfs / Riot must have missed something in their spree)

at below you know that nasus Q farm is mana capped not creep capped right?


Eh, Yorick's sustain is pretty good but not really the reason he's so strong. He wins lanes because he's so damn powerful at just standing and fighting, and he's also very good at forcing you to do so or take loads of free damage.

Who were you playing? If Yorick doesn't win lane he's pretty mediocre. Udyr rips him a new one, Rumble can hold his own. Those are the only match-ups I've had trouble with. I still don't get how Xin is supposed to win, gonna have to try that one out...


I don't have much experience vs yorick nor as yorick, but doesn't yorick go from 10% hp to 100% hp by using 3 ghouls and one of their active/passive?

I hate Yorick.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
March 21 2012 12:36 GMT
#465
Lulu looks to have like the most obscene poke range possible, chuck Pix into a range minion your Q range is astronomical
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 21 2012 12:38 GMT
#466
On March 21 2012 21:36 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 21:29 Alzadar wrote:
On March 21 2012 18:48 Shikyo wrote:
So just played vs yorick and...


Hey guys lets nerf all sustain so that Yorick can't be beat even with wriggles and doran blade stacking!

(Just to make it clear I did win the lane but I still think yorick is ridiculous after the lifesteal nerfs / Riot must have missed something in their spree)

at below you know that nasus Q farm is mana capped not creep capped right?


Eh, Yorick's sustain is pretty good but not really the reason he's so strong. He wins lanes because he's so damn powerful at just standing and fighting, and he's also very good at forcing you to do so or take loads of free damage.

Who were you playing? If Yorick doesn't win lane he's pretty mediocre. Udyr rips him a new one, Rumble can hold his own. Those are the only match-ups I've had trouble with. I still don't get how Xin is supposed to win, gonna have to try that one out...


I don't have much experience vs yorick nor as yorick, but doesn't yorick go from 10% hp to 100% hp by using 3 ghouls and one of their active/passive?

I hate Yorick.

Nah a maxed E is like 130 hp instant heal and then 3 hits of about 30 each so it heals around 220 per E. His problem is more with the harrass and of course the fact he can spam Es like crazy.
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Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2666 Posts
March 21 2012 12:38 GMT
#467
On March 21 2012 21:33 Promises wrote:
I tried her in custom AP, it is pretty strong but not as your regular AP. She's very durable with her ult etc, but she lacks spammability or pure burst. It's a bit like a Karma mid or something. As support I think she's very, very strong, she has all things (slows, speed, shield, heal, silence).


Karma has massive AoE burst, what are you on about.
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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 21 2012 12:57 GMT
#468
CLG TV show/documentary incoming (towards the end of the video)

Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
March 21 2012 13:16 GMT
#469
Lulu seems like a strong early game support but falls off late game. This is based off of one game and I am curious about your guys opinions
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
March 21 2012 13:24 GMT
#470
Have only tried her vs bots yet, but it sure looks like the best champion designed in a half a year or so.

Very easy to pick up. Unbelievably hard to reach 100% of potential. So much stuff works on her and she's super fun, just what I love.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 21 2012 13:25 GMT
#471
So did you know that Urgot swap goes through olaf ulti?
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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 21 2012 13:25 GMT
#472
at the 1:17:00 mark Sundance explains the MOBA situation at MLG

http://www.twitch.tv/livevvvgaming/b/312339045

it doesn't look good folks
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 13:28:55
March 21 2012 13:27 GMT
#473
On March 21 2012 22:16 Shiragaku wrote:
Lulu seems like a strong early game support but falls off late game. This is based off of one game and I am curious about your guys opinions


She's a support. Her abilities are still amazing late game:

-Q can slow an entire team at infinite range
-W for hard cc in team fights, and engage/disengage between fights
-E for good shield, and boosts damage for a teammate. Also between Shurelia/Q/W/E no one is running away from her
-R is so freaking good it's almost scary. 600+ heal not affected by ignite, AOE knockback, AOE slow. Protect the kog maw all day, or use it on bruiser (like irelia) and watch the fun.

Her damage falls off late game, yes. But so do all supports.

EDIT: oh, the yordles are hunting game. I thought the yordle WERE the game...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 13:31:01
March 21 2012 13:29 GMT
#474
On March 21 2012 22:25 Shikyo wrote:
So did you know that Urgot swap goes through olaf ulti?


You break the cc, the swap isn't a cc in itself, the suppression is.

On March 21 2012 22:27 Sandster wrote:EDIT: oh, the yordles are hunting game. I thought the yordle WERE the game...

That's how Teemo global taunts people...
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 21 2012 13:34 GMT
#475
On March 21 2012 22:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
at the 1:17:00 mark Sundance explains the MOBA situation at MLG

http://www.twitch.tv/livevvvgaming/b/312339045

it doesn't look good folks


Sounds like he's beating around the bush that negotiations between MLG and Riot aren't going well.
And he's eager to push PPV for MLG's future sustainability.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#476
Ya it seems as though he REALLY wants to get a PPV lol event and Riot wont do it.
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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#477
On March 21 2012 22:34 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 22:25 nojitosunrise wrote:
at the 1:17:00 mark Sundance explains the MOBA situation at MLG

http://www.twitch.tv/livevvvgaming/b/312339045

it doesn't look good folks


Sounds like he's beating around the bush that negotiations between MLG and Riot aren't going well.
And he's eager to push PPV for MLG's future sustainability.


Seems that Blizzard (valve?) is making some tempting offers.

I can't see Riot agreeing to a PPV model for their game at all, unfortunately.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#478
On March 21 2012 21:30 seRapH wrote:
I keep getting chu8's playlist confused with mine lol

and he apparantly thinks ap lulu = op. I've only seen support so far and they were terrible, but maybe it's different in mid?


I played her only once in mid, and it was against a LB who got an early blue. Needless to say, I got rocked.

I want to mess around with it more, but I'm not sure how viable she can be mid. Her abilities have a LOT of different uses. She will definitely take a lot of playing to get used to. Her Q is really nice poke, but she's lacking a certain spammability or burst that is desirable mid.

Which is sad, because she's a hell of a lot of fun. I think she'll be better as a support than mid.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 13:41:55
March 21 2012 13:40 GMT
#479
I really wonder how many from the 200k+ people that watch lol tournaments like IEM would pay for a PPV event.
It seems like he doesn't trust the LoL community to be willing to pay for something like that and Riot is obviously not thrilled with the PPV idea.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 21 2012 13:41 GMT
#480
On March 21 2012 22:40 TheKefka wrote:
I really wonder how many from the 200 k+ people that watch lol tournaments like IEM would pay for a PPV event.
It seems like he doesn't trust the LoL community to be willing to pay for something like that.

I think its more it goes against everything Riot stands for. A free-to-play game that charges for tournaments?
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