• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:10
CEST 02:10
KST 09:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview8
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon205.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes26Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Is the larve respawn broken? ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! INu's Battles#17 <BO.9>
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered? BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ProGamer Paychecks Story
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
[94721]Better Good-Health Signs Than 3-15 Bans/Yea TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3683 users

[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 26

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 339 Next
Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 14:41:31
March 21 2012 14:38 GMT
#501
For straight-up teamfights and map control, Lulu might actually be THE best support right now. Her laning is a tad on the weak side the first couple of levels compared to soraka/taric/sona, but it's manageable. Note that I've only ever tried to max polymorph first on support Lulu as the cooldown on it goes down significantly and it greatly enhances her ability to sweep with oracles.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 14:44:07
March 21 2012 14:39 GMT
#502
It's not even so much the Health (although that's certainly nice) as the AoE slow. Have fun with Fiora/Riven/Swain/Olaf, now with 60% AoE slow (and 600 extra health). Actually, the thought of an AoE slowing Olaf with 600 bonus health (who gets an extra ~750 gold in AD from it) is pretty terrifying.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 21 2012 14:41 GMT
#503
Having some tank/tanky-dps being willing to dive like crazy and have everyone focus them and then Enourmouny-ing them is hilarious. Big dragon form Shyvana with 600 hp boost and slow field real terror.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
March 21 2012 14:45 GMT
#504
Polymorph is basically silence with a tiny slow, still good tho =) That's the thing, all of her spell versions are usefull, giving her 6 effective spells.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 14:47:02
March 21 2012 14:46 GMT
#505
On March 21 2012 23:41 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Having some tank/tanky-dps being willing to dive like crazy and have everyone focus them and then Enourmouny-ing them is hilarious. Big dragon form Shyvana with 600 hp boost and slow field real terror.

Lulu bot, Karma mid, Singed top, new meta incoming. Have fun dealing with giant Singed who perma 80% slows your whole team and has an effective like 6 trillion HP.


On March 21 2012 23:45 Promises wrote:
Polymorph is basically silence with a tiny slow, still good tho =) That's the thing, all of her spell versions are usefull, giving her 6 effective spells.

what? it prevents attacking too, it's a lot stronger than silence. it's also fucking adorable =3.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
March 21 2012 14:48 GMT
#506
It's better than a silence, it prevents Auto attacks too.

I would not be surprised if LuLu had Sona Syndrome (and Xypherous, bless his heart, made another overpowered champion). She just has a LOT of utility and flexibility going for her.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 21 2012 14:51 GMT
#507
I'm extremely tempted to try her as a solo top along the lines of teemo. The numbers on her passive look a little whacky o_O.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 14:53:01
March 21 2012 14:52 GMT
#508
On March 21 2012 23:51 Mogwai wrote:
I'm extremely tempted to try her as a solo top along the lines of teemo. The numbers on her passive look a little whacky o_O.

Yeah. Alongs the lines of Teemo WITH GDLK UTILITY >.>

Somewhat, this just sounds plain wrong. Have to try it.
The legend of Darien lives on
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 21 2012 14:54 GMT
#509
Teemo has GDLK UTILITY too. dem mushrooms yo, dem mushroooms.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
March 21 2012 14:56 GMT
#510
Teemo has that global taunt too. I feel any top lane yordle would have this passive in the mid game as well.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 21 2012 14:57 GMT
#511
On March 21 2012 23:51 Mogwai wrote:
I'm extremely tempted to try her as a solo top along the lines of teemo. The numbers on her passive look a little whacky o_O.

Said it when she came out and still do.

Malady/Wits/Frozen Mallet/Bloodrazor is going to be imba on her.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 15:04:05
March 21 2012 15:01 GMT
#512
On March 21 2012 23:51 Mogwai wrote:
I'm extremely tempted to try her as a solo top along the lines of teemo. The numbers on her passive look a little whacky o_O.

Jiji was bullying around a Morgana last night mid lane with Lulu. Tower dive Morgana and get away with it npnp lol. Was hilarious to watch.

Also, Happy Birthday Mogwai! <3

[image loading]
This is what I imagine Smash looks
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 15:05:27
March 21 2012 15:02 GMT
#513
Bob was doing the on-hit solotop build during his Play with Bob session. While admittingly not high level play, he won 11 games in a row. A free 117 damage proc is pretty damn good, actually better than Teemo's proc in a sustained fight. Not to mention Lulu has a ton more teamfight utility than Teemo does.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 21 2012 15:03 GMT
#514
i actually considered a teemo build on her too, she has most of teemos tools, passive as his poison and W as his speed up and W/E as his blind+nuke.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 21 2012 15:06 GMT
#515
On March 21 2012 23:46 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 23:45 Promises wrote:
Polymorph is basically silence with a tiny slow, still good tho =) That's the thing, all of her spell versions are usefull, giving her 6 effective spells.

what? it prevents attacking too, it's a lot stronger than silence. it's also fucking adorable =3.


After watching Dyrus' cypher thing and looking up what pomf meant, I can no longer see =3 the same way again....unless that's how you wanted to use it. I always thought that it was just some weird face...

Also happy birthday Mogwai.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 15:08:17
March 21 2012 15:06 GMT
#516
On March 21 2012 23:48 ManyCookies wrote:
I would not be surprised if LuLu had Sona Syndrome (and Xypherous, bless his heart, made another overpowered champion). She just has a LOT of utility and flexibility going for her.


I doubt Lulu will grow DDD's anytime soon.

Anyway the main changes I forsee are Q slow scaling with rank (instead of 80% at all ranks) and the ult slow getting reworked. Even without the slow, her ult is one of the best defensive ults in the game.

Seriously that extra health + knockup disable will save ANYONE in a teamfight, and makes Zilean look weaksauce.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 21 2012 15:07 GMT
#517
Charging money to watch eSports at this point is putting the cart before the horse. eSports is only just barely sort of beginning to take root in the NA region, and charging money now will not help broaden the audience (which is what needs to happen first).

On March 21 2012 10:34 TheYango wrote:
This is sort of late, but to those suggesting that Riot hit the CDR on blue instead of the regen, I'd like to point out that's a solution that's WAY harder to balance because of how cutting the CDR would have a pretty noticeable effect on early game jungling speeds. They have less to worry about that when balancing the mana regen, because with a chunk of the regen shifted into flat regen, most junglers' mana demands are covered by blue.


One late response deserves another.

I think you overstate the importance of CDR to jungling and clear speeds. Most junglers that start Blue do so because they need the mana in order to use their abilities on each camp, the CDR is just a bonus. Moreover, for many junglers the CDR barely matters because only the buff camps themselves live long enough for all but the spammiest abilities to be used more than once. Starting Red buff is often faster so long as you don't need the mana to jungle. There are a few junglers would notice (Udyr, Skarner) but in the end we're talking a difference of 5-10 seconds on junglers who are already extremely fast.

That said I don't think the CDR should be hit instead of the regen, but that both should be hit. The larger problem is that Blue would still be super strong at 10% CDR, but any further nerfs would expose the fact that mana regen is completely wacky in LoL. Blue's mana regen is equivalent to or greater than any three mana regen items, even post-nerf. Blue is essentially the rug under which the dust of the mana regen problem has been swept.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 15:12:28
March 21 2012 15:07 GMT
#518
On March 22 2012 00:06 Sandster wrote:
I doubt Lulu will grow DDD's anytime soon.


There's already drawings of her applying a localized ultimate.


Anyway the main changes I forsee are Q slow scaling with rank (instead of 80% at all ranks) and the ult slow getting reworked. Even without the slow, her ult is one of the best defensive ults in the game.


Honestly, a 600 health transferable ultimate is sufficiently ult strength as it is. I think they just wanted to add *something* more to it.

It'd be hilarious if the initial health gain was lower, but did a small health leech (30/s, half from minions, cap at double initial?) from each enemy in proximity. And your model grew larger, and larger, and larger, and larger...
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 21 2012 15:09 GMT
#519
On March 21 2012 23:48 ManyCookies wrote:
It's better than a silence, it prevents Auto attacks too.

I would not be surprised if LuLu had Sona Syndrome (and Xypherous, bless his heart, made another overpowered champion). She just has a LOT of utility and flexibility going for her.


Actually, didn't Riot say that giving Sona an AoE CC ult was a mistake? That being the case, is it not weird that they have now given Lulu an AoE CC ult that bypasses Tenacity and Ignite?
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 21 2012 15:11 GMT
#520
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SMASH
currently rooting for myself.
Prev 1 24 25 26 27 28 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL Masters #7 - Day 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE206
NeuroSwarm 148
Nina 112
Ketroc 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3150
GuemChi 2984
Artosis 550
Free 111
Bale 9
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox789
AZ_Axe111
Other Games
summit1g13718
PiGStarcraft415
C9.Mang0394
ToD125
Maynarde115
UpATreeSC56
JuggernautJason26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick861
BasetradeTV280
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream145
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 64
• davetesta27
• OhrlRock 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra981
Other Games
• imaqtpie753
Upcoming Events
CrankTV Team League
10h 50m
Bombastic Starleague
19h 50m
The PondCast
1d 9h
HomeStory Cup
1d 10h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
OSC
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W1
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.