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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
On March 21 2012 21:38 Flicky wrote: Karma has massive AoE burst, what are you on about. She has nice AoE burst, but lets be honest she's not going to 100-0 anyone. Neither does she have spammable (ryze/cassio) like spells. Same goes for Lulu. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:39 nojitosunrise wrote: Seems that Blizzard (valve?) is making some tempting offers. I can't see Riot agreeing to a PPV model for their game at all, unfortunately. Game that is free to play having PPV tournaments. I don't really see how that makes sense. Like, look from Riot's perspective. IEM is advertised with a link in client when it's on. Could they even do that to MLG if it was PPV? A free game. Client link to a stream that..costs...money? From the free game. Wat? | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
The game is free but there are extras in the game like skins and boosts that you need to pay for in order to get them. MLG has these special PPV events planed so they can sustain themselves similar how riot gets their money from people buying RP. MLG in itself is a long way from becoming PPV and I doubt it will happen any time soon. The recent PPV event that they had was winter arena and it wasn't part of the MLG pro circuit from what I understood,it was more of a special event(and more are planned). | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:45 TheKefka wrote: Well I don't see the reason it wouldn't make sense. The game is free but there are extras in the game like skins and boosts that you need to pay for in order to get them. MLG has these special PPV events planed so they can sustain themselves similar how riot gets their money from people buying RP. MLG in itself is a long way from becoming PPV and I doubt it will happen any time soon. Thats a bit different. A regular MLG is like the lol FTP: you dont have to pay anything to get full enjoyment, but if you want to you get some perks. With the arena? You have to pay. There is no way for someone who cant pay to enjoy the stream. And this sort of pay only special event I do not think Riot would want to do because it doesnt fit their image and goals. And I am guessing that one of the barriers currently is that MLG REALLY wants to do private events like the Arena, hence the snag. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Well I don't see the reason it wouldn't make sense. The game is free but there are extras in the game like skins and boosts that you need to pay for in order to get them. MLG has these special PPV events planed so they can sustain themselves similar how riot gets their money from people buying RP. MLG in itself is a long way from becoming PPV and I doubt it will happen any time soon. The recent PPV event that they had was winter arena and it wasn't part of the MLG pro circuit from what I understood,it was more of a special event(and more are planned). I understand that, but let's imagine that if MLG wants to push the PPV and they'd want to include LoL. Now we're on TL forum, we're at least somewhat in, in what is esports. Just take a regular casual player, and here I mean the true casual that the majority of gamers are, which isn't any of us vocal minority on gaming forums like this, load up their free to play game to play some rounds, see this link and go "hey cool, that sounds interesting" click the link and hit a paywall. ??? And if the price is anything resembling to what it was in the tryout PPV, a 20 dollar price comes on screen and says, hey chip this in or you no watch. What's the casual player gonna think, do I put 20 dollars to watch a few games on the stream, or do I buy a champion bundle or 2 or a dozen skins that last beyond the weekend? I don't have so much against the PPV model per se, just I think the price point they tried was simply ludicrous. You aren't gonna get the 200-300k to fork out 20 dollars for a few day event worth of streaming, fk no. If it was a dollar or half, they might. If the payment process was really really slick and painless, price at half a dollar or a dollar, then I would have done it, np. Then you think it from their sustainability view, ok maybe they get the 2000 pretty hardcore followers pay 20e and they "sustain" themselves with that and totally alienate everyone else from their product and the 198 000 people move on to something else. That 2000 becomes 1900 and then 1800 and so on until it dries out. I know it was a test run, but to me it just was kind of "wow" moment when I saw the price they're asking. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:51 daemir wrote: Just take a regular casual player, and here I mean the true casual that the majority of gamers are, which isn't any of us vocal minority on gaming forums like this, load up their free to play game to play some rounds, see this link and go "hey cool, that sounds interesting" click the link and hit a paywall. ??? And if the price is anything resembling to what it was in the tryout PPV, a 20 dollar price comes on screen and says, hey chip this in or you no watch. What's the casual player gonna think, do I put 20 dollars to watch a few games on the stream, or do I buy a champion bundle or 2 or a dozen skins that last beyond the weekend? Were Raleigh/Providence linked through the client? I can't recall. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:53 nojitosunrise wrote: Were Raleigh/Providence linked through the client? I can't recall. Providence had its own page (http://mlgprovidence.leagueoflegends.com/) so I think it was in the client. I don't remember Raleigh having one though. | ||
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Veclada
742 Posts
On March 21 2012 16:06 iCanada wrote: And every Champion/Skin/rune in the game. Lucky son of a gun... Does he get them for free or something? | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
That would get around the problem that daemir stated above. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Likely a deal worked out with Riot Korea as part of the package to get them over there. Not unreasonable either- they need a way to practice and cant do it on level 1 accounts. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On March 21 2012 22:58 nojitosunrise wrote: What would be an interesting compromise is paying RP to watch a MLG. But working that out between Riot/Tencent/MLG would be a nightmare. That would get around the problem that daemir stated above. I think if you could pay it with both, IP or RP, with IP price adjusted accordingly high ofc, that could be a draw to buy RP for the event. But yea probably a nightmare to fix between the companies. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On March 21 2012 23:06 Shikyo wrote: PPV would be an awful move especially as they market the game as free to play. I definitely wouldn't pay a cent and would just watch other stuff instead. Yea basicly all I tried to say above was condensed into 2 sentences right here. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Does anyone else find it ironic that among the abundance of sizable breasts of the LoL female champions,the flat chested female yordle gets named Lulu? | ||
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OhNeverMind
United States90 Posts
The shield is noticably weaker than Janna's but still really good. The harass from her passive is really good, but if you just stand behind your own minions you mitigate a lot of the damage so I like that there is counter play. It is entirely possible that her harass is too strong but it didn't feel blatant to me... Her ult is crazy good though... Much easier to use than Janna's because you won't screw over your team. Really nice for initiation and for saving people. | ||
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nojitosunrise
United States6188 Posts
On March 21 2012 23:21 TheKefka wrote: Bit off topic for a moment. Does anyone else find it ironic that among the abundance of sizable breasts of the LoL female champions,the flat chested female yordle gets named Lulu? There was a huge thread about the depiction of female champions in LoL on the forums . I guess Riot took the feedback seriously. | ||
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