[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 23

On March 21 2012 17:49 jadoth wrote:
what happens if orianna's ball is on maokai and he twisted advances? does it stay on him or return to ori?

On March 21 2012 18:15 ihasaKAROT wrote:


It doenst say anywhere you cant play her as a ranged damage carry...

Actually Guardsman Bob tried a couple of different builds yesterday, the ones where he went wits end, triforce and such things worked very very well, maybe even better then as a support or full ap mid.

Shes like a manausing kennen, can be played in more ways then one.

On March 21 2012 17:08 UniversalSnip wrote:


It's pretty simple.

Rule 0) Call the timers. 4 5 6, minor buffs 4 minutes, red 5 minutes, dragon 6 minutes (you can remember this because you already know SR is 5 6 7 buffs dragon baron)

1) You need a jungler. Jungler is more like a roamer that picks up jungle farm and they need to be very durable early because the creeps hit like a fucking truck. Lots of ganks early and often.

2) If you come out behind in the level 1 fight you will lose unless they're completely retarded. If your comp is worse lvl 1 or you're not confident about getting a good engage or they have better summoners for a level 1 fight don't risk it, just sit at towers.

3) Singed is S tier, pick or ban.

4) Most other popular heroes are counterpickable. For example vs tryndamere pick nasus, vs hard engage teams pick nidalee. Counterpicking is very significant.

5) Keep red and dragon warded as soon as possible, pinks are good.

6) Dragon is about as good as baron is in 5s. As soon as somebody is close to wriggles it must be warded all the time, no exceptions and don't send two bot if you risk losing dragon. The best way to win a dragon fight is poke, this is typically how you beat a hard engage comp: someone goes back and buys some pinks and greens, then just go top and poke them down at dragon. They can't leave or you win.

7) Having your lane pushed is better and it doesn't really make you more vulnerable to ganks if you have wards, and only slightly more vulnerable if you don't for some reason. Also if you are pushing your lane the chance of killing someone or forcing them back based on popping a level earlier than them is fairly high. Since the lanes are so long killing someone 1 vs 1 is much more realistic than in 5s.

8) If your tanky guy gets fed oracles is the fastest way to shut the game out. It's a risk but there is no way to win vs a team that keeps an oracles up.

On March 21 2012 19:53 Alaric wrote:
Generally speeking 1 champ/2 weeks, next is due in 3 because they want to fine tune it or something. Bans are taken by turns, until each team banned 3 champs, then picks go in a 1-2-2-2-2-1 fashion.
No champs are banned prior to that, but usually the most recent champ isn't there because the tournaments are played on a prior patch.

On March 21 2012 19:46 PeZuY wrote:
how many are banned from official tournaments even before ban/pick?

On March 21 2012 20:19 Promises wrote:
I have to say I love Oriana support myself aswell. But try Lulu, she blows any support out of the water as far as I can see

On March 21 2012 17:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
It's pretty simple.

Rule 0) Call the timers. 4 5 6, minor buffs 4 minutes, red 5 minutes, dragon 6 minutes (you can remember this because you already know SR is 5 6 7 buffs dragon baron)

1) You need a jungler. Jungler is more like a roamer that picks up jungle farm and they need to be very durable early because the creeps hit like a fucking truck. Lots of ganks early and often.

2) If you come out behind in the level 1 fight you will lose unless they're completely retarded. If your comp is worse lvl 1 or you're not confident about getting a good engage or they have better summoners for a level 1 fight don't risk it, just sit at towers.

3) Singed is S tier, pick or ban.

4) Most other popular heroes are counterpickable. For example vs tryndamere pick nasus, vs hard engage teams pick nidalee. Counterpicking is very significant.

5) Keep red and dragon warded as soon as possible, pinks are good.

6) Dragon is about as good as baron is in 5s. As soon as somebody is close to wriggles it must be warded all the time, no exceptions and don't send two bot if you risk losing dragon. The best way to win a dragon fight is poke, this is typically how you beat a hard engage comp: someone goes back and buys some pinks and greens, then just go top and poke them down at dragon. They can't leave or you win.

7) Having your lane pushed is better and it doesn't really make you more vulnerable to ganks if you have wards, and only slightly more vulnerable if you don't for some reason. Also if you are pushing your lane the chance of killing someone or forcing them back based on popping a level earlier than them is fairly high. Since the lanes are so long killing someone 1 vs 1 is much more realistic than in 5s.

8) If your tanky guy gets fed oracles is the fastest way to shut the game out. It's a risk but there is no way to win vs a team that keeps an oracles up.