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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Let's say you could upgrade Exec Calling to something else, Hexdrinker style. Would that make you get it in lane? it would be OP then. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:25 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Let's say you could upgrade Exec Calling to something else, Hexdrinker style. Would that make you get it in lane? Well the rotten thing gives 18% lifesteal zzzzz idk | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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UniversalSnip
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:40 Inschato wrote: That sounds more like a replacement for bloodthirster than an entirely new item. I thought u had over 700 posts  | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
[07:15:36pm] <_123456789> why u no post on TL [07:15:46pm] <Soloside> numbers knows me because i've been temp banned the most in the LoL subforum [07:15:46pm] <Inschato> I do, I have 499 posts, most of them are in the LoL subforum Reading comprehension es good skill to have | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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chalice
United States1945 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:40 Inschato wrote: That sounds more like a replacement for bloodthirster than an entirely new item. Yes, that was the joke. A better BT. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 10 2012 11:40 UniversalSnip wrote: It needs different stats. Crit and lifesteal is stupid, that doesn't fit in anywhere and there's no room for an upgrade. if you want bruisers to build it something like ad and hp, like a phage with the exec calling debuff instead of the slow, would be better. Nah, I think if it just built from MR/armor/health it'd be okay. You're gonna get crit when you get Trinity or Atma's anyway and since practically every bruiser ever is going to get one of those two the extra crit from exec's doesn't hurt. Obviously AD is better but if you turn it into an item that gets crit, lifesteal, and AD then it's not going to be bought by bruiser's it's going to be bought by AD carries. Even if it's like phage + exec or pickaxe + <armor/mr item> + exec pretty much every AD carry would build it. The ability to have an item that gives you AD, crit chance, and handles your life steal for you is like an AD carry's wetdream. So yeah, if exec's builds into something with AD it's just gonna end up being built by AD carries while bruisers continue to do Trinity or Atmas builds. edit: I think Chain Vest + Exec could make a good item. It'd be like an armor version of Maw and would help it rival Wriggle's as you could get an early Chain vest + vamp scepter. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
You're gonna get crit when you get Trinity or Atma's anyway and since practically every bruiser ever is going to get one of those two the extra crit from exec's doesn't hurt. I don't understand... the more crit you have the worse buying more crit is, unless you have infinity edge. | ||
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jadoth
694 Posts
On April 10 2012 12:16 UniversalSnip wrote: I don't understand... the more crit you have the worse buying more crit is, unless you have infinity edge. more crit you have the better it becomes to buy ad or as but it does not make more crit worse. it is just like armor vs health. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On April 10 2012 12:21 jadoth wrote: more crit you have the better it becomes to buy ad or as but it does not make more crit worse. it is just like armor vs health. It becomes worse, because the opportunity cost is greater. Please don't waste my time with that discussion... | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On April 10 2012 12:16 UniversalSnip wrote: I don't understand... the more crit you have the worse buying more crit is, unless you have infinity edge. Because assuming you go Trinity having 30% crit even on a bruiser is pretty strong. And by adding AD to an item that builds off Exec just makes it an ideal item for AD carries, not bruisers. Bruisers would benefit a lot more from armor or MR than from AD. If they made an item that built off phage and exec I would buy it every game as AD carry. I don't play many bruisers but I don't see why I would get that item over Trinity especially when I could just get Wriggle's for my lifesteal if I need lifesteal. And if they made it off of like a BF sword or pickaxe or any other AD item it would still probably be insta-buy for AD carries while being something that seems very passable for a bruiser. Having 30% crit is always going to mean you do more damage in fights than 15%. Even if AD would be better. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
I understand that people like Atma's, but it was unfortunately really OP in terms of gold values. At 2000 HP it was giving the gold value of most tier 3 items, and at 3000 hp (ie. Warmog's + Atma's) it was getting silly. It has been scaling out of control and unnecessarily limits item selection because it is the clear best item in terms of what stats it is giving. No one is going to rush atmas. So you wont get it until late game when you already have a large health pool; most AD carries would have had their BF sword for at least 10-15mins before you get your atmas. It needed to be good because it's almost impossible to itemize solid AD as well as HP on most tanky champs. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
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