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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 09 2012 23:04 GMT
#4681
On April 10 2012 07:35 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 05:45 Mogwai wrote:
In retrospect, I'm sad I didn't have a ghostblade on Hecarim, it seems beast mode for him. Also his passive is there to encourage using Ghost instead of flash.


IMO when I played bruta seemed a lot weaker than sheen early on. Ghostblade was fun but sheen is too good to not get it before bruta. I still think flash will be better on him at least for cuteness with E, since E knockback is pretty counter productive for chasing and ghost doesn't mesh well with E.

A little thing I found out, when you ult people run directly away from you so you can ult to the far side of them and then charge backwards as the terrify wears off as a kind of skarner thing. Much better than knocking them back into their team or turret, anyway.

I can see post 6 ganks being pretty good. Charge Fear behind them, making them run towards your team, then knockback as soon as it wears off. Anyone able to give a range on the knockback? Like, short as Riven's QQQ or big as Headbutt?
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 09 2012 23:15 GMT
#4682
Is Olaf even fun to play without Brolaf skin, serious question.
Carrilord has arrived.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 09 2012 23:15 GMT
#4683
Think Shyvana ult. The range is greater than your typical Riven/Rammus/Maokai knockback, but not by a lot.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 09 2012 23:18 GMT
#4684
On April 10 2012 08:15 Seuss wrote:
Think Shyvana ult. The range is greater than your typical Riven/Rammus/Maokai knockback, but not by a lot.

Depends on what part of Shyv ult you get hit by. It's more like max range Ziggs W.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 09 2012 23:30 GMT
#4685
On April 10 2012 08:15 Slusher wrote:
Is Olaf even fun to play without Brolaf skin, serious question.


I don't know what the love is for the brolaf skin
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 09 2012 23:31 GMT
#4686
Because everyone knows a guy who is Brolaf. You just do.

And if you dont, YOU are that guy for your friends.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
April 09 2012 23:41 GMT
#4687
On April 10 2012 08:15 Slusher wrote:
Is Olaf even fun to play without Brolaf skin, serious question.


Olaf is second only to Mantheon in terms of manliness and satisfaction. Chucking axes at fools, calling down lightning bolts on their faces, chilling at 10% health and then never dying thanks to passive + w. All of his skills have that visceral FUCK YEAH feeling when used well.
whole lies with a half smile
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
April 09 2012 23:55 GMT
#4688
On April 10 2012 03:25 Sponge75 wrote:
New rotation looks gay as fuck. Any reason rammus seems to have fallen off as a ban, he still seems pretty amazing to me?


His clear speeds are pretty terrible now so if you can avoid his ganks then he sucks. He relies on items to get tanky, and if he can't get those items he becomes a non factor later on
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#4689
On April 10 2012 03:25 Sponge75 wrote:
New rotation looks gay as fuck. Any reason rammus seems to have fallen off as a ban, he still seems pretty amazing to me?

Rammus is heavily item dependent. After his first nerf he was as good as all the other junglers instead of being the best (along with skarner). Then they nerfed his w defenses. Then they nerfed his base stats. They nerfed an average champion, it just took people a few months to stop banning rammus and see how terrible he is now. If you think rammus is pretty amazing, you're playing against bad people, or the enemy jungler is terrible (or someone is picking rammus against you and you suck). It's the same reason why no one in their right mind bans skarner becuase his mana problems makes him a rather crappy jungler. Warwick and lee sin make rammus ganks look like shit.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 10 2012 00:16 GMT
#4690
Olaf used to be that nobody that'd make me go "OH SHI-" whenever he pressed his ult (I remember the first one I saw, I was playing Morgana, with who I'd just avoid chases with BS to skip cc and snares to people's faces, and then there was that dude that ghost-ulted while chasing me in the jungle and suddenly all I could do was cower in fear).
But now that I play him, Olaf is that awesome manbeard (treebeard being everybody's favorite grumpy old dude) who roars all the time but still makes me feel badass whenever I charge into a fight, ulting and then facehugging all of their burst like a man before going apeshit on them.

You can't do that with Brolaf. He doesn't yell loud enough.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 10 2012 00:16 GMT
#4691
Rammus and Skarner basically suffer from lesser cases of Shaco syndrome. They were really, really good in solo queue/low elo so they got nerfed.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 10 2012 00:26 GMT
#4692
Skarner Riot just fucked over because they didn't know how to fix him properly. Doubling the cost of Q is stifling in some scenarios and completely irrelevant in others (namely where you can take 2-3 blues). Main reason I find him not played much in solo queue is how anti-fun the Q nerf was. The ult is still just as dumb (should never pull people who have flashed/leaped away), the Q slow spam is still just as stifling (marginally less slowing), and the damage is almost the same. You don't see him that much in arranged games because of how he works. He excels at picking people off with flash/shurelya ults, but that's not so useful against coordinated teams.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 00:31:37
April 10 2012 00:29 GMT
#4693
atleast it takes his ult to troll people who flash. fling mechanics troll people constantly.

On April 10 2012 08:55 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 03:25 Sponge75 wrote:
New rotation looks gay as fuck. Any reason rammus seems to have fallen off as a ban, he still seems pretty amazing to me?


His clear speeds are pretty terrible now so if you can avoid his ganks then he sucks. He relies on items to get tanky, and if he can't get those items he becomes a non factor later on


name a champion with a better defence steroid than rammus? saying rammus needs items to get tanky doesnt mean anything ;p
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
April 10 2012 00:48 GMT
#4694
Rammus mostly just needs HP and sustain from his early items. Even with W it's easy to be easily killable because of his very low base HP pool.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2012 01:02 GMT
#4695
On April 10 2012 08:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 08:15 Seuss wrote:
Think Shyvana ult. The range is greater than your typical Riven/Rammus/Maokai knockback, but not by a lot.

Depends on what part of Shyv ult you get hit by. It's more like max range Ziggs W.

So long enough to be more than just a mini stun, you'll actually notice the displacement, but not knocking anyone through a wall unless they're pressed against it. Gotcha.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 10 2012 01:06 GMT
#4696
N1 rammus counter---->soraka
Cackle™
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 01:32:24
April 10 2012 01:27 GMT
#4697
I thought it was indesputable Atmas was over the top.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1996951


-Bonus section added. Advanced reaidng. If you don't understand the game then you WILL not understand this. Do not respond to this part unless you seriously understand the game.-


*wham* *wham *wham*
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
April 10 2012 01:33 GMT
#4698
On April 10 2012 10:06 TheKefka wrote:
N1 rammus counter---->soraka


Silence before he w's then hope your team blows him up in 2 spells?
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-10 01:36:30
April 10 2012 01:34 GMT
#4699
On April 10 2012 10:33 Fawkes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 10:06 TheKefka wrote:
N1 rammus counter---->soraka


Silence before he w's then hope your team blows him up in 2 spells?

He Q into you silence and kite. No taunt no success. Personally I think rammus is a situationally good pick. R deals tons of damage and E is still a 3 second taunt.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 10 2012 01:37 GMT
#4700
On April 10 2012 10:27 ManyCookies wrote:
I thought it was indesputable Atmas was over the top.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1996951

Show nested quote +

-Bonus section added. Advanced reaidng. If you don't understand the game then you WILL not understand this. Do not respond to this part unless you seriously understand the game.-


*wham* *wham *wham*

Who the exactly is this guy? Obviously someone who plays tanky dps and is butthurt in a bad, bad way.
It's your boy Guzma!
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