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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 09 2012 20:45 GMT
#4661
In retrospect, I'm sad I didn't have a ghostblade on Hecarim, it seems beast mode for him. Also his passive is there to encourage using Ghost instead of flash.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 09 2012 20:47 GMT
#4662
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
April 09 2012 20:49 GMT
#4663
On April 10 2012 05:38 Mogwai wrote:
ScY has been abusing the shit out of Soraka mid for like, months now. TL Alumni setting the bar for the meta, huehuehuehue.

Anyway, you're being silly if you don't think it'll surge in popularity after it was used so much in a top level tourney.

Haha I was watching scarra's stream the other day and he said that he bans Soraka in solo queue because of ScY.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 09 2012 20:52 GMT
#4664
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?

You should wait for Smash to get home from work and then duo with him.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 09 2012 20:53 GMT
#4665
On April 10 2012 05:34 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 05:13 Frolossus wrote:
On April 10 2012 05:11 jadoth wrote:
On April 10 2012 04:52 UniversalSnip wrote:
There's no vertical axis in this game, knockups and jumps are just cosmetically different stuns and dashes, except for a very small window of time in which a stun can be cleansed but a knockup can't. but even then knockups are something like 100% stun and 20% knockup, overlapping, so you pretty much can cleanse a knockup. I'm pretty sure you can't jump over a wall and collide with the top edge, lol.


i know it seems weird and no other jump works like it but all my experience with successful and failed trist jumps point towards it having a vertical component. ziqq's q has a vertical compont, but that came way after trist so idk. even if that is not how the code works by thinking about it like that you can predict witch jumps will fail and witch won't with good accuracy.

how does ziggs Q have a vertical component? its just an animation
Q is the spell that bounces right?


It can go over people or hit them based on the bombs hight, also the satchel charge can get him over walls or bounce off of them based on ziggs's hieght in the air.

Ziggs Q only explodes when hitting the ground, and if fast enough, any champ that's not a full stacked chogath can dodge through it. It's easier with yordles because they have the smallest hitboxes.
The satchel thing I never looked at, but even if it has different animations, that's just simple distance-measuring from starting point to the wall.

There is no vertical axis in LoL.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#4666
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?

I'm asking myself the exact opposite right now lol.
When it starts to rain its gonna motherfucking pour I feel like.
Cackle™
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 09 2012 21:03 GMT
#4667
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?


That sounds like you're being punished by god. Have you considered repenting?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 09 2012 21:04 GMT
#4668
On April 10 2012 05:52 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?

You should wait for Smash to get home from work and then duo with him.

Gonna be too low soon, come hurry.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 21:15:30
April 09 2012 21:12 GMT
#4669
hecarim seems basically just like skarner except with no permaslow and a different ult so his ganks are probably worse (double knockback on post 6 ganks could be nice especially since his ult is a gap closer).

his jungling suffers from the same major problem as skarner in that his early clear speed and sustain is very reliant on your mana pool, Q just doesn't do enough damage without spamming it and your W is too expensive to use all the time.

somehow his farming seems worse than skarner to me as well, like on skarner i felt like i could get away with not having wriggles but clearing seemed painful without it on hecarim.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
April 09 2012 21:18 GMT
#4670
so i just went into a custom and tested a bunch of trist jumps. the only reliable way to make the jump fail is to click too close to the wall where it is part of the wall but still looks like the ground or obv just click straight into a wall. idk why i felt like it had to do with a vertical component but after over 100 trist games that is how it felt to me. maybe it is because when you are right up next to wall you are often trying to jump diagonally across them so you are more likely to click on the wall that looks like ground. there is also so weird stuff like when testing jumps across the small trees in purple base i once jumped over it and then slid back through and other time i jumped into its center and slid out to the other side but that is probably just problems with sever client syning.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 09 2012 21:19 GMT
#4671
On April 10 2012 06:18 jadoth wrote:
so i just went into a custom and tested a bunch of trist jumps. the only reliable way to make the jump fail is to click too close to the wall where it is part of the wall but still looks like the ground or obv just click straight into a wall. idk why i felt like it had to do with a vertical component but after over 100 trist games that is how it felt to me. maybe it is because when you are right up next to wall you are often trying to jump diagonally across them so you are more likely to click on the wall that looks like ground. there is also so weird stuff like when testing jumps across the small trees in purple base i once jumped over it and then slid back through and other time i jumped into its center and slid out to the other side but that is probably just problems with sever client syning.


Yeah I don't know what's up with that. I have literally just walked through walls sometimes, where I never would have been able to just walk around in time. It happened like 3 times in one game once. Really weird.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Glaceau
Profile Joined February 2012
Wales333 Posts
April 09 2012 21:43 GMT
#4672
On April 10 2012 06:04 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 05:52 Mogwai wrote:
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?

You should wait for Smash to get home from work and then duo with him.

Gonna be too low soon, come hurry.


cry when your at 1850, i cant get out. 1700s too strong. never go negative, always lose
Cmon, swing it
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#4673
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?


reported for not posting in the qq thread
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 09 2012 21:48 GMT
#4674
On April 10 2012 06:04 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 05:52 Mogwai wrote:
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?

You should wait for Smash to get home from work and then duo with him.

Gonna be too low soon, come hurry.

You can always smurfdrizzle with T_D and crush people with kat to get your mojo back.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 09 2012 21:53 GMT
#4675
On April 10 2012 06:46 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 05:47 HazMat wrote:
After how big of a loss streak should I start seeing a win streak?


reported for not posting in the qq thread

It was hidden qq.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17297 Posts
April 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#4676
I found when I dropped about 150 Elo from where I'd been hovering for awhile (oh boy solo queue teams!) I had a pretty easy time carrying games. I'd say by that point you sufficiently exceed the skill level of opponents that you can win pretty easily.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 09 2012 21:57 GMT
#4677
On April 10 2012 06:54 Craton wrote:
I found when I dropped about 150 Elo from where I'd been hovering for awhile (oh boy solo queue teams!) I had a pretty easy time carrying games. I'd say by that point you sufficiently exceed the skill level of opponents that you can win pretty easily.

I actually prefer to be ~200 elo below where I should be because it lets me play and practice whatever I want and still have an even chance of victory.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
April 09 2012 22:23 GMT
#4678
On April 10 2012 06:57 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 06:54 Craton wrote:
I found when I dropped about 150 Elo from where I'd been hovering for awhile (oh boy solo queue teams!) I had a pretty easy time carrying games. I'd say by that point you sufficiently exceed the skill level of opponents that you can win pretty easily.

I actually prefer to be ~200 elo below where I should be because it lets me play and practice whatever I want and still have an even chance of victory.

i would do this but people like to rage at me for picking things like kat in ranked :/
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 09 2012 22:35 GMT
#4679
On April 10 2012 05:45 Mogwai wrote:
In retrospect, I'm sad I didn't have a ghostblade on Hecarim, it seems beast mode for him. Also his passive is there to encourage using Ghost instead of flash.


IMO when I played bruta seemed a lot weaker than sheen early on. Ghostblade was fun but sheen is too good to not get it before bruta. I still think flash will be better on him at least for cuteness with E, since E knockback is pretty counter productive for chasing and ghost doesn't mesh well with E.

A little thing I found out, when you ult people run directly away from you so you can ult to the far side of them and then charge backwards as the terrify wears off as a kind of skarner thing. Much better than knocking them back into their team or turret, anyway.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 09 2012 23:00 GMT
#4680
Just got to counterpick a Poppy top with Olaf.
AH HAHAHAHAHA felt so good. That hateful little midget made me cringe for so long even with the simple idea of her, So glad I picked up Olaf, 'tis making me a happy boy. ^-^

He was bad (vamp start) and I'm still very low Elo, but it's still somewhat cathartic.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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