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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
April 09 2012 17:03 GMT
#4601
Yeah, support/jungler SHOULD have the best map awareness because they have time to check out all the lanes. Honestly jungler should be making all the objective calls, but sadly that doesn't happen all the time in solo queue.

I have noticed that as the jungler if I gank and get early kills people are much more willing to respond and follow calls. Or if the guy in lane is woefully incompetent when I gank and I'm too scared to rely on him, which will factor in my decision making.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 09 2012 17:16 GMT
#4602
Part of it in solo q is that support is often the last pick because everyone wants to play a carry, so they think "he's last pick, must be shit compared to me since i'm so awesome being 1400 and top pick in my game!"

Usually if you do make good calls and it works out people tend to listen to you. Even a 0-0-7 support looks good to most people unless it's really low elo where people don't even understand the basic fundamentals.

"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 09 2012 17:19 GMT
#4603
On April 10 2012 01:40 Roffles wrote:
I thought they fixed it so you can't perform those types of jumps anymore.


When was the fix? It happened to me even during this patch I think, and I've seen it happen to other people too.
Stuck.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 09 2012 17:34 GMT
#4604
On April 10 2012 02:16 BlackPaladin wrote:
Usually if you do make good calls and it works out people tend to listen to you. Even a 0-0-7 support looks good to most people unless it's really low elo where people don't even understand the basic fundamentals.

Only if you make good calls that your team is familiar with. You can make great calls all the time, if your team doesn't understand say the concept of creating pressure in lane to allow jungle invasion, they won't listen. Or worse.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 09 2012 17:49 GMT
#4605
On April 10 2012 01:40 Roffles wrote:
I thought they fixed it so you can't perform those types of jumps anymore.


It was stated as fixed in a recent patch. They didn't actually fix it though.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
April 09 2012 17:51 GMT
#4606
On April 10 2012 02:49 Schwopzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 01:40 Roffles wrote:
I thought they fixed it so you can't perform those types of jumps anymore.


It was stated as fixed in a recent patch. They didn't actually fix it though.

Typical
God Bless
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 17:59:48
April 09 2012 17:58 GMT
#4607
Well i've gotten a cait to vs a kassadin for her first time when i was playing support taric. She listened even though everyone was skeptic and we outright doninated the enemy team by winning bot and mid so our jungler just ganked top and won that lane too. Enemy team was all mad and told us to "stick to the meta." Not saying it always works. It's solo q, sometimes you get a grackis on your team. It's just generally speaking, if you show you know what you're doing in some way you'll often be able to control the team and call more shots. Same concept applies when a jungler is 3-0 and snowballed all the lanes then starts calling the shots. Or of an AP mid gets first blood then goes around successfully ganking lanes and snowballing everyone then calls the shots to help carry the team. Not everyone will always listen. It's just people often will listen more to you if you proved yourself to them.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 09 2012 17:59 GMT
#4608
You don't even need to type anything. Just ping. Most of the calls in this game can be stated with pings.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 09 2012 18:05 GMT
#4609
Next rotation

Gragas
Malphite
Miss Fortune
Veigar
Shen
Sivir
Xin Zhao
Annie
Yorick
Lulu

source: http://leagueoflegends.co.kr/
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 09 2012 18:06 GMT
#4610
The next rotation is disgusting except for Lulu I say disgusting because I have 10/10 of those champions. Lulu can always be played on another account.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 09 2012 18:10 GMT
#4611
Fuck yeah, Malphite again!
Also, MF and Xin. Gotta give them a try. I thoroughly loved Leona.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 09 2012 18:14 GMT
#4612
Only one I want to try is Yorick, so eh.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 09 2012 18:17 GMT
#4613
At PAX I got to play centaur dude. He's pretty fun, but it seems like Slows just murder him.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
April 09 2012 18:18 GMT
#4614
lulu yorick free?
dodge toplane all week
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 09 2012 18:21 GMT
#4615
On April 10 2012 03:17 Mogwai wrote:
At PAX I got to play centaur dude. He's pretty fun, but it seems like Slows just murder him.


Oh whoa now i just thought. Since his passive gives AD based on bonus MS, if he gets slowed does he actually lose AD??
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 18:22:54
April 09 2012 18:22 GMT
#4616
On April 10 2012 03:21 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2012 03:17 Mogwai wrote:
At PAX I got to play centaur dude. He's pretty fun, but it seems like Slows just murder him.


Oh whoa now i just thought. Since his passive gives AD based on bonus MS, if he gets slowed does he actually lose AD??


Yes.

On April 10 2012 03:18 SagaZ wrote:
lulu yorick free?
dodge toplane all week


Darn I main Yorick-I'm going to have to be fast with that lockin button.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 09 2012 18:23 GMT
#4617
On April 10 2012 03:17 Mogwai wrote:
At PAX I got to play centaur dude. He's pretty fun, but it seems like Slows just murder him.

Recomend buy or not?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 09 2012 18:23 GMT
#4618
I don't think his passive goes negative with slows, but if you get slowed to your base MS or lower, you're effectively missing out on a bunch of AD =\.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Sponge75
Profile Joined May 2011
England194 Posts
April 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#4619
New rotation looks gay as fuck. Any reason rammus seems to have fallen off as a ban, he still seems pretty amazing to me?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#4620
Are you sure? I saw somewhat state that since it's bonus MS, it isn't affected by reductions, or at least if it goes under your base MS (contrary to Galio, whose passive scales off of total MR). Can't remember if he was theorycrafting or verified it, tho.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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