EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 222
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PeZuY
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I've been thinking a bit more about why arpen runes have higher numbers than mpen and there might be a few more reasons why equal amounts of mpen is just stronger. One is that mpen can help burst and veigar's thing is to one shot people. If he doesn't one shot a sivir the sivir might kill him before his next cooldown comes up. Imo where penetration is relevant: early mid game, aps are stronger than ads too. Anyways there's probably more reasons for why arpen and mpen runes shouldn't have the same numbers. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On April 08 2012 06:31 arb wrote: So is Atmas going to be like the old manamune affter it was nerfed? not worth buying now. i guess 5 ad loss isnt that big of a loss but still I think its still great. With 3k hp its still the equivalent of a BF sword + (improved) chain vest + (improved) cloak but definately only usable with warmogs then or other champs that are capable of reaching 2.5-3k hp with a default build. the way i see it its more of a balancing for the cost, it just gave too good stats to high hp champs for too little money (if you would want to achieve the same stats with basic items). i think its still good on MOST champs who get it nowadays, its just more in line with what other champs have to pay for the same stats. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On April 08 2012 07:19 Celial wrote: I think its still great. With 3k hp its still the equivalent of a BF sword + (improved) chain vest + (improved) cloak but definately only usable with warmogs then or other champs that are capable of reaching 2.5-3k hp with a default build. the way i see it its more of a balancing for the cost, it just gave too good stats to high hp champs for too little money (if you would want to achieve the same stats with basic items). i think its still good on MOST champs who get it nowadays, its just more in line with what other champs have to pay for the same stats. I don't know about improved on either, other than having them take up only 1 slot. The only thing you get for combining Atmas is the passive. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
On April 08 2012 07:23 Gahlo wrote: I don't know about improved on either, other than having them take up only 1 slot. The only thing you get for combining Atmas is the passive. Oh are the stats the same? Then its my bad, sorry. =/ | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On April 08 2012 07:27 Celial wrote: Oh are the stats the same? Then its my bad, sorry. =/ Yeah, I was checking up on it earlier this morning when I saw the nerf. Surprised me too. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On April 07 2012 22:50 Two_DoWn wrote: Good point on hex, although even with the nerf wits is better than hex. Did forget to mentoin it thou. I dunno. I suppose it ia better since the change, but I still dont like hex as much as wits. Hex before patch was a niche pick, now it could be more standard on certain champions. For example I would build hex on GP (non AS dependent bruiser) if enemy ap became a bit fed. Now I can totally see hex becoming more of a standard item build, especially since it now builds into a really strong lategame item. Wits has become 100% standard with most bruisers even if they dont' need the mr (such a shyv, udyr, and so on), but what the hex change has done is make it more a standard item choice rather than niche choice for certain champions. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
anyways, atma's nerf doesn't look that big of a deal. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On April 08 2012 02:25 Celial wrote: Many "pro" players - most notably Alex_Ich - have whined for a while that they HAVE to rune for MR because the meta in mid is more like sit back, just harass, and farm all day, when they would much prefer to go right at it and duke it out. Not going MR against enemy harass would force them back too much/early, thus losing the farm. Seen Scarra running a FULL MR rune page using Karthus against LeBlanc. 72 MR right off the bat. LeBlanc could only tickle even after level 6 and was complaining about it all game long. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On April 08 2012 06:15 Xevious wrote: i have to spend <5 mins remaking my mastery pages?????? the fuck is this riot i could be playing league of legends in that time WTF RIOT SO FAIL Just do your masteries in champ select... | ||
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patochaos
Argentina160 Posts
I love the guy, have his legendary skin, and played him a lot jungle, but now I see it in every tournament, but I was under the impression he was a very underpowered champ. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
Why he got viable all of a sudden? Spellvamp quints allow you to start boots 3 instead of cloth 5. Which makes him viable for competetive play (not restricted on a build (tabis)/wasting 300 gold since he doesnt build wriggles). | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
Plus some other buffs, significant ones, but that's the biggie. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
On April 08 2012 12:05 patochaos wrote: Can someone explain why Mundo suddenly became relevant in jungle? I love the guy, have his legendary skin, and played him a lot jungle, but now I see it in every tournament, but I was under the impression he was a very underpowered champ. If you're ever confused about why a champ is suddenly good, go to lolwiki and search for them, then the abilities page. Most of the time you'll find that they were changed subtly or significantly in a recent patch. Like someone said above they actually lowered the health cost on W so he is actually able to AoE clear now. | ||
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Juddas
768 Posts
I'm just lost on how to build him.. Today I was pretty fed so I went Wriggles RoA and started Scepter but they surrendered XD. Dat FEast | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On April 08 2012 13:12 Juddas wrote: Cho Gath is such a fun jungle. All you gotta do is hit that q and then not have a brain dead laner Much fun I'm just lost on how to build him.. Today I was pretty fed so I went Wriggles RoA and started Scepter but they surrendered XD. Dat FEast Most of the time your laners not being braindead is asking too much. Wriggles isn't needed on cho, his passive gives him good sustain. You could probably go double gp10. Wits is really nice too for faster farming speed with vorpal spikes. | ||
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