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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 07 2012 10:50 GMT
#4361
Really wish they added a cs counter or something to the UI so you dont have to constantly tab to check your creep score
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
April 07 2012 11:03 GMT
#4362
On April 07 2012 19:03 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 19:01 obesechicken13 wrote:
On April 07 2012 18:21 dignity wrote:
On April 07 2012 18:08 Niton wrote:
On April 07 2012 18:02 dignity wrote:
So I noticed that currently, mr reds give more magic resist than mrpen reds penetrate. Compare to arpen reds penetrating more than armor reds give, this seems strange.


This is because ArPen is a primary red statistic, along with AD, while MPen, along with AP, are secondary red statistics (Primary Blue).


I understand AP being primary blue but if MPen was blue primary why is it lower for blues than it is for reds?

The scaling armor thing might be one of the reasons why, but still not sure why the defensive runes would utterly render the offensive ones useless and then some.

Defensive runes should be stronger imo. If you build purely for offense and get fed you can carry a game. If you build purely for defence and get fed you might not be able to carry as easily.

If you get fed, runes don't make such a big difference anymore. Runes make a bigger difference as to wether you will get fed or not.
Not to mention, if you get fed, you can use that gold for more offensive stats with defensive runes.



in general defensive stats need to be stronger than offensive. if offensive is stronger theres 0 reason to ever build tanky, but even when defensive is stronger there are cases where you can just be ignored which is the risk you take.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 07 2012 11:03 GMT
#4363
On April 07 2012 19:50 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 12:47 cLutZ wrote:
On April 07 2012 10:39 57 Corvette wrote:
On April 07 2012 10:05 warscythes wrote:
Eh, Kayle will probably still be underpowered,


She isn't underpowered. She is just a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none type of champion. Sure she can fill in any role on the team, but she isn't equal to the normal champions of each role. She trades off a dedicated role for a little bit of everything.


Umm. Jack of all trades characters (almost) never work.

I.E.

Spellpower Ret paladin (wow)
Tri-Sorc (Diablo2, unless you have tals, then its viable but not great) (also various other hybrid builds blow)
Mario (SSBM) (also see, Luigi)
Klobb (Goldeneye)

ETC

Sometimes a Jack of all trades character gets temporarily buffed into OPness because they become viable in a single role while still being mediocre+ at the other role(imagine Kayle with Ryze's AP power, but maintaining the same sustain/supportiness, another example would be making Annie's shield way better, and able to be placed on any team member).

Spell power and such on Ret Paladins isn't their problem btw.
It's randomness. Saying they're a jack of all trades character and it doesnt work because of spell power is totally wrong.


Ryze's AP power....

The new UI changes look a lot like DotA 2 for some reason....
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
April 07 2012 11:10 GMT
#4364
Dafuk 20000 login queue.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 07 2012 11:19 GMT
#4365
Is EUw down for anyone else ?
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
April 07 2012 11:23 GMT
#4366
I just managed to login after waiting 15 mins 20000 queue and there's a notice that says that ranked games and logins are temporarily disabled due to some problem with disconnects.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
April 07 2012 11:25 GMT
#4367
League website exploded too. I guess its time to play DOTA2.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
April 07 2012 11:30 GMT
#4368
Eune working fine for me. Ranked as well. o.O
End my suffering
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
April 07 2012 11:50 GMT
#4369
East is alive, west went poop. Just played a ranked so...
#freeshauni
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 07 2012 12:25 GMT
#4370
EUW is currently experiencing technical difficulties. We are performing live maintenance, PvP.net is currently at risk. Games in progress will finish. Logins and ranked games are currently disabled. Thank you for your patience.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2667 Posts
April 07 2012 12:46 GMT
#4371
Ok so my brain is addled now after seeing that patch preview video.

What are the runes I really need right now? I didn't have any idea that MR were so good.

I have 8k IP and all the old runes that were best, what are the runes every player should have now?
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
epoc
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 13:05:49
April 07 2012 12:51 GMT
#4372
Don't like the atmas nerf. Rarely tournament games even go for long enough for bruisers to build atmas. wtf oce 24k viewers
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 07 2012 12:52 GMT
#4373
15 min waiting time in order to log on EU OMG
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
April 07 2012 12:56 GMT
#4374
Looks like post Dreamhack problems back on EU
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 07 2012 13:24 GMT
#4375
Bleh, I don't really like how they nerf "primary" MR runes (glyphs and quints), making all defensive pages weaker, not only full MR pages, but they buff secondary offensive runes to allow full on offensive to be better... That's dumb, if their problem is with people building too defensive why not nerfing that option in particular? That tweak skews all rune page towards an advantage to the offensive one.

The nerf on atma's feels really strong. Not that it isn't warranted, but it's a 25% reduction on the bonus AD, quite huge.
Dunno what I think of the doran change. The idea that it costs 475 has its sense so I understand that they wouldn't reduce the price at the same time but it's still a pretty big hit, doran stacking is going to take quite a beating now. I guess it's also aimed at reducing the "snowball meta" by making early game items less potent. Not that I get a kill with less than 20 HP left on Pantheon all that often.
Catalyst openings mid would be stronger I assume.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-07 13:36:16
April 07 2012 13:32 GMT
#4376
On April 07 2012 17:00 gtrsrs wrote:wit's end nerf is needed. i would have hit its values instead of its cost but to each his own. probably gonna see a shift to other items like rageblade and ionic on certain champs


For people who want a combination of damage and tankiness (MR especially) Wit's End is still way better than the competition mathematically. That's just how good Wit's end is, you can nerf it by 7% and it's still better than those items. That's not even counting the 20 MR you get from auto attacking. IMO it would be 100% better than doran's items but the components aren't as easy to buy and it doesn't give any AD.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2012 13:40 GMT
#4377
Wits is still the only mr item a lot of people can realistically get.

Sv could be good but I hate payin for that passive when I dont need it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
April 07 2012 13:43 GMT
#4378
On April 07 2012 22:40 Two_DoWn wrote:
Wits is still the only mr item a lot of people can realistically get.

Sv could be good but I hate payin for that passive when I dont need it.


Hexdrinker?
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2012 13:50 GMT
#4379
Good point on hex, although even with the nerf wits is better than hex. Did forget to mentoin it thou.

I dunno. I suppose it ia better since the change, but I still dont like hex as much as wits.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 07 2012 13:53 GMT
#4380
Are ranked games back on EUW?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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