EPTOn April 06 2012 12:04 BlackPaladin wrote:
Tap, "percentage of his bonus MS."
Not "percentage of his percent bonus MS" lol
Tap, "percentage of his bonus MS."
Not "percentage of his percent bonus MS" lol
So hard to balance that way though.
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
So hard to balance that way though. | ||
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Soloside
United States1238 Posts
On April 06 2012 11:32 gtrsrs wrote: nice, spiritbreaker was like my 3rd favorite dota champ. already have bloodseeker in the 'wick, this gives us spiritbreaker, now just need true storm spirit FUCK YOU KENNEN DOG totally not racist against kennen. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On April 06 2012 11:25 GARO wrote: Oh no, 20 extra speed is going to be viable on him just because of the passive? Are you kidding? OH no, I specifically mentioned how mercs will probably still be better on him but there's alteast a slight reason to get boots 3 on the dude! | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Also, I have a feeling that beyond items that are already good in general (e.g. Triforce), focusing on itemizing MS isn't going to go that far on him. Diminishing returns makes the "stack MS for damage" gameplan lose steam very quickly. Buying movespeed after 490 MS is really inefficient. | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
On April 06 2012 11:15 TwoToneTerran wrote: New hero, Hecarim the horsedude who goes fast Abilities: Warpath (Passive) – Hecarim ignores unit collision and gains attack damage equal to a percentage of his bonus movement speed. Rampage – Hecarim cleaves nearby enemies dealing physical damage. Spirit of Dread - Hecarim deals magic damage to nearby enemies for a short duration. Hecarim gains health equal to a percentage of any damage those enemies suffer. Devastating Charge - Hecarim gains increasing movement speed for a short duration. His next attack knocks the target back and deals additional physical damage based on the distance he has traveled since activating the ability. Onslaught of Shadows (Ultimate) - Hecarim summons spectral riders and charges forward, dealing magic damage in a line. Hecarim creates a shockwave when he finishes his charge dealing additional magic damage to nearby enemies causing them to flee in terror. Boots 3 will finally have a use! Probably still worse than merc treads, though. revive tele for close to max move speed and penta kill? | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 06 2012 12:29 nosliw wrote: revive tele for close to max move speed and penta kill? There is no "max move speed". It's just that diminishing returns kicks in at 415 and 490 raw MS. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
So have him activate, team aoe around him => he full heals. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Gondlem
Australia642 Posts
Not the most original and exciting kit but it'll be nice to have another jungling option, especially if he's a fast clearer who can compete with Udyr/Shyv/Mundo. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On April 06 2012 12:31 TheYango wrote: There is no "max move speed". It's just that diminishing returns kicks in at 415 and 490 raw MS. well, there is in the sense that there's a limited number of items, a limited number of runes and masteries, and a limited # of champs you can have to add to your ms. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 06 2012 13:50 barbsq wrote: well, there is in the sense that there's a limited number of items, a limited number of runes and masteries, and a limited # of champs you can have to add to your ms. there's also an actual diminishing returns mechanism in the game that lowers the movespeed bonuses you gain at 415 and 490 MS. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
ms quints, AD reds and blues, armor yellows, boots first BALLS DEEEEEP cleave gets you through wraiths, leash gets you through red, wolves wraiths again with cleave, level 3 gank of TERROR with his E and ghost BOOKMARK THIS POST TLERS BECAUSE TOP LANE IS NO LONGER SAFE FROM THE CENTAUR'S WRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATH | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On April 06 2012 14:21 Scip wrote: Guys, can I change topic for a tinsy bit and ask you to discuss why is Nashor's Tooth such a great item? it isn't. it's just an itemized surge, aka a niche item for niche builds on niche champs. it used to be a decent luxury item on teemo or kayle, but it has never been a core item on anyone. AS + AP are just two really non-synergetic stats. couple them with mana regen or w/e other throwaway stat nashor's has, and it might as well not be an item | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
You add a PD - +15%. MS = 300+70+0.15x300=415. So AD = x% of 115. Pretty simple. Edit: I'm pretty sure it would factor in the diminishing returns after 415. No reason why it wouldn't. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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