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Remember guys, this is the general discussion thread. Keep whine/QQ posts in the appropriate QQ memorial thread! Thanks!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 06 2012 05:34 GMT
#4161
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


whichever champ you play the most, is the best champ to carry with
i will win 0 games with ahri, froggen can beat fnatic single-handedly with ahri
i will win 0 games with caitlyn, my teammate treebeard got to 2.1k playing her
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 05:37:39
April 06 2012 05:36 GMT
#4162
On April 06 2012 14:04 Craton wrote:
Question will be how it scales off movespeed. As in if it takes the raw number into account (e.g. 5% of 10000 movespeed) or if it somehow factors in the DR. It seems like the first.

The number the game shows you is your movespeed after DR is applied, which is why I think it makes more sense that it uses that number. It makes no sense for it to use "raw" movespeed when there's not actually a way in the game for someone to see the raw movespeed number.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 06 2012 05:36 GMT
#4163
So I've been doing the math and I've scientifically calculated that the most irritating thing a streamer can do is constantly check their irc.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 06 2012 06:09 GMT
#4164
On April 06 2012 14:36 UniversalSnip wrote:
So I've been doing the math and I've scientifically calculated that the most irritating thing a streamer can do is constantly check their irc.


i agree 100%, nothing more annoying than watching someone, in a tournament game, in the middle of their lane nonetheless, tab out to see if their viewers are complimenting them -____-
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 06 2012 06:20 GMT
#4165
Tournies, yes.
Solo q with shake or Gbob, no.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
April 06 2012 06:40 GMT
#4166
If I didn't see Shakedrizzle checking his IRC every time he dies/backs, I'd have to ask if he got a second monitor..
3.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 06 2012 06:51 GMT
#4167
On April 06 2012 15:40 Inschato wrote:
If I didn't see Shakedrizzle checking his IRC every time he dies/backs, I'd have to ask if he got a second monitor..


every time you die isn't so bad
it's when it's like:
>irc for the first 30s of the game, destroying team's chance of early-game fight
>walk to lane, tab in to irc despite nothing happening in the game
>get a few creeps, back off a bit, tab in to irc
>push lane, irc
> start moving to another lane for a gank, irc while in transit

like how narcissistic
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
April 06 2012 07:01 GMT
#4168
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


Tristana is good for pubstomping if you have good coordination with your lane partner and know when you should engage-- I don't really think she's too great solo q though :x Ashe/cait are much safer picks, once you learn when to use ashe arrow you can singlehandedly win lots of fights just by catching people out of position if your teammates aren't retards. Cait just dominates lane, and if you snowball well enough off that you can destroy with here even if she doesn't scale as well as other ADs do.

If you're interested in really learning a character, though, I'd suggest graves or kogmaw. Once you know how to fight with graves you can do amazing things all game long, and kog's damage output is insane once you learn how to survive in lane and when you're allowed to fight.
:3
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 06 2012 07:12 GMT
#4169
On April 06 2012 15:51 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 15:40 Inschato wrote:
If I didn't see Shakedrizzle checking his IRC every time he dies/backs, I'd have to ask if he got a second monitor..


every time you die isn't so bad
it's when it's like:
>irc for the first 30s of the game, destroying team's chance of early-game fight
>walk to lane, tab in to irc despite nothing happening in the game
>get a few creeps, back off a bit, tab in to irc
>push lane, irc
> start moving to another lane for a gank, irc while in transit

like how narcissistic

Or it's to see if the stream is working/if people have any questions. I guess communicating with viewers is bad l0l.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
April 06 2012 07:24 GMT
#4170
OK argument with some lol friends.
''Wriggles/zerks is the cheapest item because the combine cost is 150g so if you have the items they cost 150g.''
I think this is dumb because the component items still count towards the cost and the combine cost is not an item.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 06 2012 07:26 GMT
#4171
checking irc is 100% ok.
some viewers, like me, actually think that it's great to communicate with the streamer. maybe we're just a little bit silly XD

what's totally annoying and stopped me from watching wickd's stream ever again is that he was checking his facebook every 30 seconds.
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 06 2012 07:31 GMT
#4172
On April 06 2012 16:12 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 15:51 gtrsrs wrote:
On April 06 2012 15:40 Inschato wrote:
If I didn't see Shakedrizzle checking his IRC every time he dies/backs, I'd have to ask if he got a second monitor..


every time you die isn't so bad
it's when it's like:
>irc for the first 30s of the game, destroying team's chance of early-game fight
>walk to lane, tab in to irc despite nothing happening in the game
>get a few creeps, back off a bit, tab in to irc
>push lane, irc
> start moving to another lane for a gank, irc while in transit

like how narcissistic

Or it's to see if the stream is working/if people have any questions. I guess communicating with viewers is bad l0l.


not bad just annoying to usnip and i tbh
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
April 06 2012 07:53 GMT
#4173
On April 06 2012 16:26 shrinkmaster wrote:
checking irc is 100% ok.
some viewers, like me, actually think that it's great to communicate with the streamer. maybe we're just a little bit silly XD

what's totally annoying and stopped me from watching wickd's stream ever again is that he was checking his facebook every 30 seconds.

You're not silly, a lot of players actually check irc constantly during their games, they just have more screens.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 06 2012 07:54 GMT
#4174
Yeah, I find it annoying. W/e, I still watch you sometimes, you're cool and you play well and I don't hate your music, but it's like, every time you tab into irc in the middle of lane I open up another stream to see if they're doing something interesting because it's irritating lol.

On April 06 2012 16:24 valheru wrote:
OK argument with some lol friends.
''Wriggles/zerks is the cheapest item because the combine cost is 150g so if you have the items they cost 150g.''
I think this is dumb because the component items still count towards the cost and the combine cost is not an item.


you are literally always going to buy boots so... I guess that's half right?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 07:58:01
April 06 2012 07:57 GMT
#4175
On April 06 2012 16:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yeah, I find it annoying. W/e, I still watch you sometimes, you're cool and you play well and I don't hate your music, but it's like, every time you tab into irc in the middle of lane I open up another stream to see if they're doing something interesting because it's irritating lol.

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 16:24 valheru wrote:
OK argument with some lol friends.
''Wriggles/zerks is the cheapest item because the combine cost is 150g so if you have the items they cost 150g.''
I think this is dumb because the component items still count towards the cost and the combine cost is not an item.


you are literally always going to buy boots so... I guess that's half right?

I think what they mean is, zerkers=movespeed 2 for 150g, mercs =movespeed 2 for 450g. If they mean that it's 150g so it's cheap as an item, just like triforce is like 300g for the combined item so it's expensive, then they dumb.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
April 06 2012 08:10 GMT
#4176
On April 06 2012 16:57 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 16:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yeah, I find it annoying. W/e, I still watch you sometimes, you're cool and you play well and I don't hate your music, but it's like, every time you tab into irc in the middle of lane I open up another stream to see if they're doing something interesting because it's irritating lol.

On April 06 2012 16:24 valheru wrote:
OK argument with some lol friends.
''Wriggles/zerks is the cheapest item because the combine cost is 150g so if you have the items they cost 150g.''
I think this is dumb because the component items still count towards the cost and the combine cost is not an item.


you are literally always going to buy boots so... I guess that's half right?

I think what they mean is, zerkers=movespeed 2 for 150g, mercs =movespeed 2 for 450g. If they mean that it's 150g so it's cheap as an item, just like triforce is like 300g for the combined item so it's expensive, then they dumb.

You do get extra stats yo u're paying for other than mvoespeed you know
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 08:21:45
April 06 2012 08:20 GMT
#4177
On April 06 2012 17:10 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 16:57 JackDino wrote:
On April 06 2012 16:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
Yeah, I find it annoying. W/e, I still watch you sometimes, you're cool and you play well and I don't hate your music, but it's like, every time you tab into irc in the middle of lane I open up another stream to see if they're doing something interesting because it's irritating lol.

On April 06 2012 16:24 valheru wrote:
OK argument with some lol friends.
''Wriggles/zerks is the cheapest item because the combine cost is 150g so if you have the items they cost 150g.''
I think this is dumb because the component items still count towards the cost and the combine cost is not an item.


you are literally always going to buy boots so... I guess that's half right?

I think what they mean is, zerkers=movespeed 2 for 150g, mercs =movespeed 2 for 450g. If they mean that it's 150g so it's cheap as an item, just like triforce is like 300g for the combined item so it's expensive, then they dumb.

You do get extra stats yo u're paying for other than mvoespeed you know

I know but didn't remember the exact stats, also not sure what 35tenacity costs. 10% attackspeed and movespeed 2 for 150g still hella cheap though.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 06 2012 08:24 GMT
#4178
They should just make Powerball scale off Movespeed already. I've been waiting for that forever.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 06 2012 08:25 GMT
#4179
On April 06 2012 16:54 UniversalSnip wrote:
you are literally always going to buy boots so... I guess that's half right?

If you have Boots 1, going to Zerks costs 570 gold. However, 25% ASpd is wortly 650 gold, using Recurve Bow as a baseline. The MS increase is basically free.
Moderator
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
April 06 2012 08:26 GMT
#4180
On April 06 2012 14:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's the safest/easiest champion to pick that can carry in solo queue? I do alright with Ashe except I'm terrible at utilizing her arrow. I hear Tristana is really easy to play with.


Use smartcast and play Ryze. Going solomid is usually the best way to forcefully carry other lanes as you can win your lane and gank for them. Ryze requires no skillshots, does amazing damage and is hard to kill on top of being an excellent tower diver and is rarely banned at low elos.
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