EPT[Patch 1.0.0.136: Lulu] General Discussion - Page 2
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
1) Recent tournament 2) Be consistent with the new support since Lulu's passive leaves the ally if the shield is broken. I don't think is "that" big of a deal because this is something that can be reverted fairly simply if is needed. The mechanic is not broken. | ||
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EliteAzn
United States661 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:52 warscythes wrote: The Janna nerf might be for two reasons. 1) Recent tournament 2) Be consistent with the new support since Lulu's passive leaves the ally if the shield is broken. I don't think is "that" big of a deal because this is something that can be reverted fairly simply if is needed. The mechanic is not broken. Definitely feels like a light jab at Janna after the latest IEM picks. | ||
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:53 EliteAzn wrote: Can someone explain to me how Shaco was "nerfed" early game? Not a Shaco player...so I'm not sure what happened this change. (Heard about the early game "complaint" in the patch preview video...) It will hurt his early game a bit won't it? since now poison gets damage from bonus damage only. It might make him stronger late game, but I'm not completely sure | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:54 NeoIllusions wrote: Definitely feels like a light jab at Janna after the latest IEM picks. It's not really light though... | ||
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iaeuy
United States249 Posts
they also nerfed irel/janna/shyv who are the only heroes I can adequately play in their respective roles /rage edit: oh they also reduced bt lifesteal. The only ad carry that really builds early bt atm is ezreal, so now I can say I got my main nerfed in every role :D | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:53 EliteAzn wrote: Can someone explain to me how Shaco was "nerfed" early game? Not a Shaco player...so I'm not sure what happened this change. (Heard about the early game "complaint" in the patch preview video...) His scaling is changed from base ad scaling to bonus ad scaling. Base scaling means his base AD is factored into it while bonus ad means only bonus ad is factored in the scaling. Shaco start with 50ish ad so .5 base AD scaling means +25ish while 1.0 bonus AD means +0 until you have more AD items. Aka late game buff early game nerf. | ||
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Sven Stryker
United States423 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:53 EliteAzn wrote: Can someone explain to me how Shaco was "nerfed" early game? Not a Shaco player...so I'm not sure what happened this change. (Heard about the early game "complaint" in the patch preview video...) At level 3 with 1 point in all skills and no bonus AD, Instead of doing 40+0.5(51.7+3(3.5))=71.1, it now does 50. So they knocked off 20ish damage, unless you take quite a bit of AD early on. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
ok, fine, it's more like a haymaker until Janna's Shield is maxed. >_> Really hurts Janna-X level 1-5 utility. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:56 iaeuy wrote: This blue buff nerf annoys me greatly, I'm pretty sure it will affect anivia far more than anyone else. Not sure what riot was trying to achieve with this one. I think I read that they want to avoid mindless pushing with blue...? Really though it's just going to make zombie-push stuff like morg stronger because she's so mana efficient. they also nerfed irel/janna/shyv who are the only heroes I can adequately play in their respective roles /rage Poor vowels. <3 | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:56 iaeuy wrote: This blue buff nerf annoys me greatly, I'm pretty sure it will affect anivia far more than anyone else. Not sure what riot was trying to achieve with this one. I think I read that they want to avoid mindless pushing with blue...? Really though it's just going to make zombie-push stuff like morg stronger because she's so mana efficient. they also nerfed irel/janna/shyv who are the only heroes I can adequately play in their respective roles /rage It will definitely will affect some mana hungry champions like cryop and Swain, however blue buff does need a nerf. A champion should not become mana-less with blue buff. Now if they can just bump up the mana regen items like tear up a bit. Shyvana is barely touched, Irelia needs a nerf although they might have went a bit overboard with it, Janna nerf looks pretty big but again tournament shows results, not that I agree with the Janna nerf though. I think they could wait a bit until IPL4 before nerfing her. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:59 Talack wrote: A bit surprised they didn't want to change anything about Fiora. I feel she is a bit too strong in some areas (base stats for one) in general i think it's a good idea not to mess with new champs for awhile unless they're blatantly broken. 2 weeks simply isn't enough time to figure out definitively whether or not a champ is strong/weak | ||
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
On March 20 2012 11:57 NeoIllusions wrote: ok, fine, it's more like a haymaker until Janna's Shield is maxed. >_> Really hurts Janna-X level 1-5 utility. Which is also her most vulnerable point v a sustain lane >.< Also kind of Eh at the Shyvana nerfs, didn't feel they were really necessary. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
Mind you they didn't hit anything I actually find annoying but if it'll get her to being not as played I am okay with this. She's still pretty much the get the hell off of my team champion of champions.. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
If they're gonna keep nerfing Irelia's ult, at least return some of the base damage that was nerfed off so many times before. Interestingly, instead of gaining hp for buying AD/AD, Jax now gets resistances in the respective stat bought. I guess they achieved pre-remake Jax tankiness without it pooling all into HP, and into resistances? | ||
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