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On April 05 2012 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 06:09 tobi9999 wrote:On April 05 2012 05:56 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact Annie is god tier outside lanephase, similar to singed, but its just hard to get to that point.
her lane phase is retardedly good. 625 range auto attacks are nothing to laugh at -_- also, what do people really mean when they say lane phase? On some champions once you hit 6 you can just leave lane and give up your tower to roam bot/enemy jungle for kills. There's no way annie is going to be getting away with a lot of cs, against alot of the current ap meta, without being poked out of lane, ie ziggs, cass, anivia, ahri, and so on. Even if she can get out of lane post6, there are champions post6 that just wreck her in this category, and still win lanephase easier. The reason I say god tier, is because in teamfights, There aren't taht many ap mid champs that can keep up with annie's raw burst* aoe damage, and cc. A tibbers stun onto multiple people is nothing to laugh at.
im gonna take a wild guess that you dont play annie 
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On April 05 2012 07:17 GranDim wrote:
The commentators are beyond horrid.
Yeah, I swapped back to CLG player streams after about 10 minutes of the first game.
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On April 05 2012 07:17 GranDim wrote:
The commentators are beyond horrid.
Poor guy, listening to casters...
I just watch CLG's PoV. :3
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buzzing sound on froggen's stream driving me nuts
ahri+anivia open again
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On April 04 2012 17:26 Ryuu314 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 16:42 JackDino wrote:On April 04 2012 08:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
If AD malz becomes a thing I'm seriously going to drive to Two_Down's and smack him upside the head. Even with today's gas prices. I dunno I think ad malz is better than ad kennen and that became a thing aswell. Also ad sona. AD sona with triforce is legit man. You have hella burst and you push down towers crazy fast.
AD sona is dead. RIP AD sona 
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On April 05 2012 07:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2012 17:26 Ryuu314 wrote:On April 04 2012 16:42 JackDino wrote:On April 04 2012 08:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
If AD malz becomes a thing I'm seriously going to drive to Two_Down's and smack him upside the head. Even with today's gas prices. I dunno I think ad malz is better than ad kennen and that became a thing aswell. Also ad sona. AD sona with triforce is legit man. You have hella burst and you push down towers crazy fast. AD sona is dead. RIP AD sona
Replace AD sona with AD lulu and no one will complain.
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finals game 3 b/w CLG and fnatic!
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On April 05 2012 07:35 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 07:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On April 04 2012 17:26 Ryuu314 wrote:On April 04 2012 16:42 JackDino wrote:On April 04 2012 08:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
If AD malz becomes a thing I'm seriously going to drive to Two_Down's and smack him upside the head. Even with today's gas prices. I dunno I think ad malz is better than ad kennen and that became a thing aswell. Also ad sona. AD sona with triforce is legit man. You have hella burst and you push down towers crazy fast. AD sona is dead. RIP AD sona Replace AD sona with AD lulu and no one will complain.
Lulu gets between 5*3 and 39*3 bonus magic damage on every attack (assuming they aren't blocked). I guess that's decent as far as AD steroids go. The question is whether the rest of her kit makes her comparable to the standard AD carries. That and her range isn't amazing and her AS scaling is probably inferior to the standard ADs. Has anyone had any success as AD lulu?
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Vancouver14381 Posts
On April 05 2012 07:43 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 07:35 JBright wrote:On April 05 2012 07:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On April 04 2012 17:26 Ryuu314 wrote:On April 04 2012 16:42 JackDino wrote:On April 04 2012 08:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
If AD malz becomes a thing I'm seriously going to drive to Two_Down's and smack him upside the head. Even with today's gas prices. I dunno I think ad malz is better than ad kennen and that became a thing aswell. Also ad sona. AD sona with triforce is legit man. You have hella burst and you push down towers crazy fast. AD sona is dead. RIP AD sona Replace AD sona with AD lulu and no one will complain. Lulu gets between 5*3 and 39*3 bonus magic damage on every attack (assuming they aren't blocked). I guess that's decent as far as AD steroids go. The question is whether the rest of her kit makes her comparable to the standard AD carries. That and her range isn't amazing and her AS scaling is probably inferior to the standard ADs. Has anyone had any success as AD lulu?
I'm not really saying it's good, just that more people will complain about AD sona compared to AD lulu since we don't see AD lulu enough to know if it can work.
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clgeu doing the stomp @_@
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On April 05 2012 07:50 JBright wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 07:43 obesechicken13 wrote:On April 05 2012 07:35 JBright wrote:On April 05 2012 07:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On April 04 2012 17:26 Ryuu314 wrote:On April 04 2012 16:42 JackDino wrote:On April 04 2012 08:49 BlackPaladin wrote:
If AD malz becomes a thing I'm seriously going to drive to Two_Down's and smack him upside the head. Even with today's gas prices. I dunno I think ad malz is better than ad kennen and that became a thing aswell. Also ad sona. AD sona with triforce is legit man. You have hella burst and you push down towers crazy fast. AD sona is dead. RIP AD sona Replace AD sona with AD lulu and no one will complain. Lulu gets between 5*3 and 39*3 bonus magic damage on every attack (assuming they aren't blocked). I guess that's decent as far as AD steroids go. The question is whether the rest of her kit makes her comparable to the standard AD carries. That and her range isn't amazing and her AS scaling is probably inferior to the standard ADs. Has anyone had any success as AD lulu? I'm not really saying it's good, just that more people will complain about AD sona compared to AD lulu since we don't see AD lulu enough to know if it can work.
People complain about me going AD jungle kayle a lot. I know what you're talking about though. It's definitely not as much as people complain about me going AD twitch because they never see kayle. It's also nice that you can run certain non bruisers in top lane since they aren't really considered weird.
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Went away to cook dinner during G3 Fnatic vs CLG.eu champ select, came back to watch the game and ... it's already finished? If so, anyone who caught it able to recap?
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On April 05 2012 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 06:09 tobi9999 wrote:On April 05 2012 05:56 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact Annie is god tier outside lanephase, similar to singed, but its just hard to get to that point.
her lane phase is retardedly good. 625 range auto attacks are nothing to laugh at -_- also, what do people really mean when they say lane phase? On some champions once you hit 6 you can just leave lane and give up your tower to roam bot/enemy jungle for kills. There's no way annie is going to be getting away with a lot of cs, against alot of the current ap meta, without being poked out of lane, ie ziggs, cass, anivia, ahri, and so on. Even if she can get out of lane post6, there are champions post6 that just wreck her in this category, and still win lanephase easier. The reason I say god tier, is because in teamfights, There aren't taht many ap mid champs that can keep up with annie's raw burst* aoe damage, and cc. A tibbers stun onto multiple people is nothing to laugh at.
Tibbers is awesome.
IMO the only real problem right now is Annie's passive stun mechanic. Getting 5 stacks is easy, but a good AP Mid player will force you to waste in on minions more often than not (just played a game where I just pushed annie to tower with morgana and lawled around ganking, granted that annie sucked, but thats not the point). Making the stun only proc on champs would probably be too OP, on the other hand, letting you save it somehow would be super helpful.
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On April 05 2012 08:04 Haasts wrote:
Went away to cook dinner during G3 Fnatic vs CLG.eu champ select, came back to watch the game and ... it's already finished? If so, anyone who caught it able to recap?
Froggen Ahri OP basically.
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On April 05 2012 08:05 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:On April 05 2012 06:09 tobi9999 wrote:On April 05 2012 05:56 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact Annie is god tier outside lanephase, similar to singed, but its just hard to get to that point.
her lane phase is retardedly good. 625 range auto attacks are nothing to laugh at -_- also, what do people really mean when they say lane phase? On some champions once you hit 6 you can just leave lane and give up your tower to roam bot/enemy jungle for kills. There's no way annie is going to be getting away with a lot of cs, against alot of the current ap meta, without being poked out of lane, ie ziggs, cass, anivia, ahri, and so on. Even if she can get out of lane post6, there are champions post6 that just wreck her in this category, and still win lanephase easier. The reason I say god tier, is because in teamfights, There aren't taht many ap mid champs that can keep up with annie's raw burst* aoe damage, and cc. A tibbers stun onto multiple people is nothing to laugh at. Tibbers is awesome. IMO the only real problem right now is Annie's passive stun mechanic. Getting 5 stacks is easy, but a good AP Mid player will force you to waste in on minions more often than not (just played a game where I just pushed annie to tower with morgana and lawled around ganking, granted that annie sucked, but thats not the point). Making the stun only proc on champs would probably be too OP, on the other hand, letting you save it somehow would be super helpful.
Short range, weak poke, mediocre AP ratios, no mobility. She has a bunch of problems basically between 7-12 something are her "power levels". Anivia has better control and scaling. Kennen has stronger scaling and is only slightly weaker mid game, Ahri has spammable poke and mobility. Annie isn't bad but she wallows around in mediocrity much like Xin Zhao and Lux.
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On April 05 2012 08:07 nosliw wrote:
clg looking really good.
Yeah 3 Tournament wins in a Week, I'm happy that they're out of their slump atm.
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CLG.eu so stronk for soo long, everyone's just waiting for them to go compete at a proper LAN.
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On April 05 2012 08:13 Eppa! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2012 08:05 cLutZ wrote:On April 05 2012 07:14 wei2coolman wrote:On April 05 2012 06:09 tobi9999 wrote:On April 05 2012 05:56 wei2coolman wrote:
I don't think anyone disagrees with the fact Annie is god tier outside lanephase, similar to singed, but its just hard to get to that point.
her lane phase is retardedly good. 625 range auto attacks are nothing to laugh at -_- also, what do people really mean when they say lane phase? On some champions once you hit 6 you can just leave lane and give up your tower to roam bot/enemy jungle for kills. There's no way annie is going to be getting away with a lot of cs, against alot of the current ap meta, without being poked out of lane, ie ziggs, cass, anivia, ahri, and so on. Even if she can get out of lane post6, there are champions post6 that just wreck her in this category, and still win lanephase easier. The reason I say god tier, is because in teamfights, There aren't taht many ap mid champs that can keep up with annie's raw burst* aoe damage, and cc. A tibbers stun onto multiple people is nothing to laugh at. Tibbers is awesome. IMO the only real problem right now is Annie's passive stun mechanic. Getting 5 stacks is easy, but a good AP Mid player will force you to waste in on minions more often than not (just played a game where I just pushed annie to tower with morgana and lawled around ganking, granted that annie sucked, but thats not the point). Making the stun only proc on champs would probably be too OP, on the other hand, letting you save it somehow would be super helpful. Short range, weak poke, mediocre AP ratios, no mobility. She has a bunch of problems basically between 7-12 something are her "power levels". Anivia has better control and scaling. Kennen has stronger scaling and is only slightly weaker mid game, Ahri has spammable poke and mobility. Annie isn't bad but she wallows around in mediocrity much like Xin Zhao and Lux.
Her AP ratios aren't mediocre by any means
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