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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together.

Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned.

TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned.

gl hf
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 30 2013 08:15 GMT
#1061
Standard Abaddon game. Manmode everything, collect triple kills.
Moderator
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
November 30 2013 13:14 GMT
#1062
Urn into S&Y was pretty good build.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 30 2013 18:28 GMT
#1063
been wondering for a long time, going to ask now, why is Hvost spelled Xboct in roman letters?
Carrilord has arrived.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 30 2013 19:31 GMT
#1064
On December 01 2013 03:28 Slusher wrote:
been wondering for a long time, going to ask now, why is Hvost spelled Xboct in roman letters?

It's Cyrillic actually ,X=H, source of XOXOXO and XAXAXA
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 01 2013 19:21 GMT
#1065
Ok, started playing some Dota since league is kinda silly right now.

But its kinad frustrating playing low mmr matchmaking when I'm used to high mmr games of league.

Anyone want to play?

Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 01 2013 19:24 GMT
#1066
the yango stacks will boost your mmr like you wouldn't believe
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 01 2013 19:26 GMT
#1067
On December 02 2013 04:24 Nos- wrote:
the yango stacks will boost your mmr like you wouldn't believe

Pretty sure I lower their MMR huehuehue.
God Bless
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 01 2013 19:49 GMT
#1068
On December 02 2013 04:26 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 04:24 Nos- wrote:
the yango stacks will boost your mmr like you wouldn't believe

Pretty sure I lower their MMR huehuehue.


Anything is better then cliff farming furion with sniper solo bot and enchantress jungle.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#1069
you are lucky my first 5 doto games had a maximum of 4 at keyboard players on each team.
Carrilord has arrived.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
December 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#1070
Anyhow, what channel do people usually meet in? LiquidParty seems dead.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 01 2013 21:30 GMT
#1071
Milo and I usually organize stacks in TS and/or LoL client chat at this point.
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NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 12 2013 00:48 GMT
#1072
So this new hero defense mode for the Christmas event seems like a pretty good way for newbies to learn the heroes and items.

Probably will be organizing stacks for this for anyone interested in learning.
yango pls
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 12 2013 00:51 GMT
#1073
I am about to be on break...so tempting.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 12 2013 00:54 GMT
#1074
It's so fun! I'll do new mode!
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
December 15 2013 02:41 GMT
#1075
Hey guys what's good for building on melee characters on the frostyvus map? Like I have no problem building mad deeps on Windranger and just never getting hit because windrun is the best tanking spell in the mode but I can't seem to make the melee guys do damage without dying or tanky without just becoming a punching bag.
Veni, vidi, vici!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 23 2013 20:22 GMT
#1076
With ranked MM now out...

How do you draft? I have no idea and I'm terrified of getting captain position.

Also apparently I'm above 90th percentile according to MMR which makes me think that people are just really bad at this game. Especially considering some of the builds I still see.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
December 23 2013 22:45 GMT
#1077
On December 24 2013 05:22 kainzero wrote:
With ranked MM now out...

How do you draft? I have no idea and I'm terrified of getting captain position.

Also apparently I'm above 90th percentile according to MMR which makes me think that people are just really bad at this game. Especially considering some of the builds I still see.


For soloQ CD/CM I'd worry about picking 'strongest available' type drafts with some consideration to a strategy. You don't have to be Puppey to know that stuns and cc are strong, that 3 melee tri-lanes suck, a tri-core of 3 do-nothing-early carries is awful, etc. Draft a lineup with any cohesion at all and most people shouldn't complain about it.

You could also just keep queueing All Pick as it's by far the most popular queue as is, and watch drafts of competitive games until you are comfortable doing it yourself(you can use old pick/ban data to kind of theorycraft yourself as well, what were the captains thinking when they made those picks and whatnot).

Yango could have a lot to say about this, but maybe not, because there's not exactly a magical guide to drafting.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 23:17:09
December 23 2013 23:12 GMT
#1078
On December 24 2013 05:22 kainzero wrote:
Also apparently I'm above 90th percentile according to MMR which makes me think that people are just really bad at this game. Especially considering some of the builds I still see.

90th percentile is basically Gold in LoL.

Pub drafting just kind of sucks in general because you have no idea what people can actually play properly. For pub teammates in particular you generally want to draft straightforward fighting heroes that still can maintain usefulness even if they are underfarmed or losing. Stuff like AM Spec Void are a big no-no, and even PL is a risk because most pubs will still farm too hard. Heroes like Furion and Doom can be good if you're playing them but are a big risk to hand to pub teammates. Stuff that's hard to play or does really poorly from behind like SF and QoP should be avoided.

If you're playing with a stack this is different, but with unknowns you just generally want to stick to safe shit that can fight really well CM, Lina, Naix, etc.
yango pls
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 23 2013 23:43 GMT
#1079
Actually, 83rd percentile is Gold, 93rd percentile is Platinum. I looked it up just because I was curious on how my DotA stacked up with my LoL.

I watch a lot of competitive so I kinda get the feeling of drafts but I also think there's all these mental mind games where people get baited into certain picks and then countered. I was wondering if there were any common traps like that. Or if that triangle of push/split/teamfight is still viable.

Or even things like what makes a strong lane. The other day in one game, people got all pissy about the draft and in the end it became a Huskar/Abaddon/CM vs Lich/Luna and we just got dove over and over at Level 5, leading me to think that Lich/Luna has no lane synergy.

There is the possibility that I'm just overthinking things and that it's pub so I should just play whatever.
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 00:08:54
December 24 2013 00:03 GMT
#1080
A lot of those things aren't relevant for pub play. For pubs you want shit that is straightforward. Heroes that just fight and kill things. In general, the push/gank/teamfight relationship is heavily skewed toward teamfighting in pubs, for reasons that should be fairly apparent.

Lich Luna doesn't have lane synergy, you're correct. Lich is a strong *offensive* support (denies creeps, low CD spammable nuke to harass with). But he has very little defensive power, since he is squishy and easy to kill himself and has no hard disables or defensive spells (Frost Armor is not that strong in lane). Therefore, he's generally best paired with laners that have naturally good defensive ability themselves. Luna's defensive ability is quite poor. She has a long-range nuke and a +damage aura, but poor creep clear early game, is squishy, and has no disables. Lich is generally better at 2vX off-lane rather than 2vX safe-lane, when paired with defensively strong off-laners like Windrunner or Dark Seer.

Safe lane Lich is in general a waste because the deny is less impactful on a lane where you should already have lane control. Support Lich should generally be used as either dual mid/off-lane or an aggressive trilane.
yango pls
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