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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together.

Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned.

TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned.

gl hf
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
December 24 2013 00:05 GMT
#1081
On December 24 2013 08:43 kainzero wrote:
Actually, 83rd percentile is Gold, 93rd percentile is Platinum. I looked it up just because I was curious on how my DotA stacked up with my LoL.

I watch a lot of competitive so I kinda get the feeling of drafts but I also think there's all these mental mind games where people get baited into certain picks and then countered. I was wondering if there were any common traps like that. Or if that triangle of push/split/teamfight is still viable.

Or even things like what makes a strong lane. The other day in one game, people got all pissy about the draft and in the end it became a Huskar/Abaddon/CM vs Lich/Luna and we just got dove over and over at Level 5, leading me to think that Lich/Luna has no lane synergy.

There is the possibility that I'm just overthinking things and that it's pub so I should just play whatever.


Just a note that the percentiles listed by Valve are for normal queue, the ranked percentiles will be different(higher ratings).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 24 2013 08:39 GMT
#1082
On December 24 2013 09:05 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 08:43 kainzero wrote:
Actually, 83rd percentile is Gold, 93rd percentile is Platinum. I looked it up just because I was curious on how my DotA stacked up with my LoL.

I watch a lot of competitive so I kinda get the feeling of drafts but I also think there's all these mental mind games where people get baited into certain picks and then countered. I was wondering if there were any common traps like that. Or if that triangle of push/split/teamfight is still viable.

Or even things like what makes a strong lane. The other day in one game, people got all pissy about the draft and in the end it became a Huskar/Abaddon/CM vs Lich/Luna and we just got dove over and over at Level 5, leading me to think that Lich/Luna has no lane synergy.

There is the possibility that I'm just overthinking things and that it's pub so I should just play whatever.


Just a note that the percentiles listed by Valve are for normal queue, the ranked percentiles will be different(higher ratings).

Damnit. I thought I was good, lol.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 12 2014 21:43 GMT
#1083
Bumping this thread for TI4.

American Qualifiers started today, Milo, Yango, MB and myself watching in TS, anyone welcome to join.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 13 2014 02:56 GMT
#1084
Noooooooo need Internet pls.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 09:22:50
May 13 2014 09:15 GMT
#1085
NA qualifiers were pretty boring yesterday. Only one good game and I went to sleep before that. Think just wait for the bracket games to watch.

edit: Ok I've been told that one guy was bad too. So yea just read the results of the qualifiers.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 09:48:53
May 13 2014 09:48 GMT
#1086
nvm
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
May 13 2014 10:01 GMT
#1087
There are games today as well, right? I'll try and jump into TS to watch some, since my usual dota buddies don't get on until midnight usually.
Steam: rook492
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
May 13 2014 11:30 GMT
#1088
On May 13 2014 19:01 Crusnik wrote:
There are games today as well, right? I'll try and jump into TS to watch some, since my usual dota buddies don't get on until midnight usually.

Judging from yesterdays games I wouldn't expect too much out of the American qualifiers. They were definitely amusing at times tho! =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 13 2014 13:09 GMT
#1089
I can enjoy any set of matches in which TL does well, regardless of the strength of the competition. I'm not above taking easy wins or w/e.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 13 2014 14:27 GMT
#1090
Since TL's played the games against the other 3 relevant teams in the Qualifiers yesterday already today's games should more or less be a set of relatively easy games (or hilarious throws).
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 13 2014 14:29 GMT
#1091
NA qualifier reminds me once again that NA is the worst region in Dota and pretty much all things esports with the exception of.....Smash?
WriterXiao8~~
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 13 2014 14:30 GMT
#1092
At least I can be happy that SOME Westerners can win tournaments in DotA.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 13 2014 14:44 GMT
#1093
the NA quals is like every game of 2 seasons of NACL bundled into a 4 day event, cept the LMQ here isn't a bunch of ex-pros, but a bunch of Chinese foreign exchange students who were bored (and they suck)
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 13 2014 14:51 GMT
#1094
Difference between West and East in Dota is much smaller compared to LoL, West can beat East. The best NA team does quite well/decent and the C9 Dota counterpart does ok. The rest of NA kinda sucks, Europe is strong with Na`Vi, Alliance and up to a certain degree Fnatic and Empire. Korea sucks, we send foreigners there to harvest Korean money(how ironic). Maybe East has an edge but not a big one.
WriterXiao8~~
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 13 2014 14:54 GMT
#1095
The C9 Counterpart is EG, which makes the TL DotA team TSM; we even have the same imported European midlaner that carries us
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 13 2014 14:55 GMT
#1096
On May 13 2014 23:51 Kipsate wrote:
Difference between West and East in Dota is much smaller compared to LoL, West can beat East. The best NA team does quite well/decent and the C9 Dota counterpart does ok. The rest of NA kinda sucks, Europe is strong with Na`Vi, Alliance and up to a certain degree Fnatic and Empire. Korea sucks, we send foreigners there to harvest Korean money(how ironic). Maybe East has an edge but not a big one.


How dare you sully the efforts our lords and saviors on Zephyr
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 13 2014 14:59 GMT
#1097
On May 13 2014 23:54 Kupon3ss wrote:
The C9 Counterpart is EG, which makes the TL DotA team TSM; we even have the same imported European midlaner that carries us

I think Kipsate was referring to EG when he said "the best NA team" and when he said "the C9 counterpart" he meant the C9 DotA team.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 13 2014 15:00 GMT
#1098
On May 13 2014 23:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 23:54 Kupon3ss wrote:
The C9 Counterpart is EG, which makes the TL DotA team TSM; we even have the same imported European midlaner that carries us

I think Kipsate was referring to EG when he said "the best NA team" and when he said "the C9 counterpart" he meant the C9 DotA team.


TSM TSM TSM
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 13 2014 15:26 GMT
#1099
On May 13 2014 23:54 Kupon3ss wrote:
The C9 Counterpart is EG, which makes the TL DotA team TSM; we even have the same imported European midlaner that carries us


Me and Yango discussed this. The C9/TSM parallel works, NAR can be CLG because they have #potential.

I also proposed that even though it doesn't fit as well, it's perhaps more fun to consider that TL is CLG, and SNA is Curse Gaming, with their TL(CLG) throwaway players.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 13 2014 15:36 GMT
#1100
On May 13 2014 23:54 Kupon3ss wrote:
The C9 Counterpart is EG, which makes the TL DotA team TSM; we even have the same imported European midlaner that carries us


Wouldn't C9 be the TSM of Dota. Liquid would be more like a CLG or Curse
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