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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together.

Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned.

TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned.

gl hf
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 26 2013 21:03 GMT
#1041
On November 27 2013 05:58 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 05:57 TheYango wrote:
Roffles pls. If there are 9 Kissblades, there are 5 on the enemy team and only 4 on my team.


And there are so many more long range ults to miss (I think).

9 missed sunstrikes
Bronze player stuck in platinum
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 26 2013 21:07 GMT
#1042
8 whiffed sacred arrows
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 26 2013 21:22 GMT
#1043
9 missed pudge hooks
Bronze player stuck in platinum
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 26 2013 21:45 GMT
#1044
On November 27 2013 06:22 Nos- wrote:
9 missed pudge hooks


Goddammit I was going for 12 Days of Christmas/KissBlade Misses Things. T_T
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 26 2013 21:49 GMT
#1045
There's no 5v5 Pudge Wars in DotA2(which is a travesty, Icefrog pls), so it's more like a missed Hook Shot, Relocating your carry to the wrong place, forgetting to launch the actual Ice Blast and just letting the lead projectile fly off map, Rearming yourself oom so you can't use BoT's and he was too bad to buy Soul Ring, etc.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 26 2013 21:50 GMT
#1046
On November 27 2013 06:49 red_ wrote:
There's no 5v5 Pudge Wars in DotA2(which is a travesty, Icefrog pls), so it's more like a missed Hook Shot, Relocating your carry to the wrong place, forgetting to launch the actual Ice Blast and just letting the lead projectile fly off map, Rearming yourself oom so you can't use BoT's and he was too bad to buy Soul Ring, etc.


i have done this before
Hey! Listen!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 21:55:28
November 26 2013 21:54 GMT
#1047
There's the stupid projectile bug where sometimes projectiles are invisible so like 1/5 times the tracer for my AA ult is invisible and I just have to guess where it is.

On November 27 2013 06:49 red_ wrote:
There's no 5v5 Pudge Wars in DotA2(which is a travesty, Icefrog pls), so it's more like a missed Hook Shot, Relocating your carry to the wrong place, forgetting to launch the actual Ice Blast and just letting the lead projectile fly off map, Rearming yourself oom so you can't use BoT's and he was too bad to buy Soul Ring, etc.

http://d2ware.net/index
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 22:05:41
November 26 2013 22:02 GMT
#1048
On November 27 2013 06:54 TheYango wrote:
There's the stupid projectile bug where sometimes projectiles are invisible so like 1/5 times the tracer for my AA ult is invisible and I just have to guess where it is.

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 06:49 red_ wrote:
There's no 5v5 Pudge Wars in DotA2(which is a travesty, Icefrog pls), so it's more like a missed Hook Shot, Relocating your carry to the wrong place, forgetting to launch the actual Ice Blast and just letting the lead projectile fly off map, Rearming yourself oom so you can't use BoT's and he was too bad to buy Soul Ring, etc.

http://d2ware.net/index


Disregard Yangostack, acquire Poor Man's Pudge Wars.

Edit: Some of those sound awesome, we should try to host purely for funs inhouses with plugins sometime.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 26 2013 22:07 GMT
#1049
I'm waiting for real DotA LoD to be implemented, not random skills.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 26 2013 22:19 GMT
#1050
On November 27 2013 07:07 TheYango wrote:
I'm waiting for real DotA LoD to be implemented, not random skills.


I saw a Pick Your Skills plugin which sounds pretty damn close to LoD.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 22:23:20
November 26 2013 22:22 GMT
#1051
They're not drafted the way you do in LoD. Being able to pick from the entire pool of skills gets boring after like 3 games.

LoD's most fun when you get like 10 shit heroes to pick skills from and come up with some really janky stuff from a pile of mediocre skills.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
November 26 2013 22:43 GMT
#1052
On November 27 2013 06:50 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 06:49 red_ wrote:
There's no 5v5 Pudge Wars in DotA2(which is a travesty, Icefrog pls), so it's more like a missed Hook Shot, Relocating your carry to the wrong place, forgetting to launch the actual Ice Blast and just letting the lead projectile fly off map, Rearming yourself oom so you can't use BoT's and he was too bad to buy Soul Ring, etc.


i have done this before

I thought the hero was broken for a while cause I didn't know I had to detonate the projectile for AA. Turned out I was just bad.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 26 2013 22:53 GMT
#1053
On November 27 2013 07:22 TheYango wrote:
They're not drafted the way you do in LoD. Being able to pick from the entire pool of skills gets boring after like 3 games.

LoD's most fun when you get like 10 shit heroes to pick skills from and come up with some really janky stuff from a pile of mediocre skills.


There are modes to limit the skills you pick from, or you can have a pick/ban phase, or you can play 'one build to rule them all' or 'pick your enemies skills' etc etc.

LoD is still a more thorough and better mod, but this one doesn't sound that bad.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 27 2013 00:17 GMT
#1054
On November 27 2013 07:07 TheYango wrote:
I'm waiting for real DotA LoD to be implemented, not random skills.


Did you ever get it working?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 27 2013 00:22 GMT
#1055
On November 27 2013 09:17 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 07:07 TheYango wrote:
I'm waiting for real DotA LoD to be implemented, not random skills.


Did you ever get it working?

No, lol.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 10:43:42
November 27 2013 10:31 GMT
#1056
On November 27 2013 06:54 TheYango wrote:
There's the stupid projectile bug where sometimes projectiles are invisible so like 1/5 times the tracer for my AA ult is invisible and I just have to guess where it is.

Are you implying you play AA after all the criticism you threw at how he fits into lanes last time they brought it up?

On November 19 2013 03:57 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 03:10 kainzero wrote:
Played Earth Spirit yesterday, he's quite fun. He's like what would happen if Syndra and Alistar had a love child.

Also please note that I would rather not see Syndra and Alistar have a love child, especially not in comic form.

Role-wise Lee Sin is actually probably the best comparison.

Still, in general Earth Spirit feels like he draws inspiration from several LoL champs.

He's Brand-Orianna-Syndra-Alistar-Thresh, with a dash of Teemo when dropping a max range remnant to re-Magnetise an enemy about to make it out. @_@
(In exchange you have to deal with turn rates when trying to Smash something, it's worse than trying to put Nidalee in front of a wall before Pouncing.)

Pretending to try and make a bette contribution, I'm not sure I got how the courrier works. You can only have one, and its control is automatically shared within the team (so you don't have to check the "share control" boxes), and whenever someone gives it an order the courrier's UI says who gave the current one so you can know if it's being used.
It can carry up to 6 items but only their owner can pull them out of the stash ('cept maybe for those that are pool-able anyway?).

Worst part for me is the minimap, I have trouble locating stuff like the courrier or making out the paths within the jungle (one more reason to play Kaolin and get to wall-hop on a 4s cd), but I guess it'll come with practice (already set the minimap icons to hero portraits). Also the creeps auto-target the closest thing so they'll hit you before the ranged creep/catapult if you're a melee, and they fkin hurt. ;;
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 27 2013 16:13 GMT
#1057
On November 27 2013 19:31 Alaric wrote:
Are you implying you play AA after all the criticism you threw at how he fits into lanes last time they brought it up?

Yes, because 6.79 changed both how mid plays and makes dual lanes playable again.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 27 2013 17:21 GMT
#1058
Didn't you say that he fit better in dual lanes, but is still outshone by others in what he's supposed to do? Then again it's more a concern for competitive play than pub, depending on your own style.
What changed most for the mids? I don't remember any huge changes pertaining to that lane, but I'm a scrub so I certainly missed a bunch of stuff even when following the thread. The timing of the first night is important for gankers but Cold Feet needs a setup to work well, I remember that part.

He looked interesting the first time I read about him on the wiki, esp. the ult for sniping or cutting a retreat path as you engage, but it seemed pretty hard to aim and use well for a beginner like me. Do people max his E first because of the damage potential if he buffs his whole team once grouping starts?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 27 2013 17:33 GMT
#1059
On November 28 2013 02:21 Alaric wrote:
Didn't you say that he fit better in dual lanes, but is still outshone by others in what he's supposed to do? Then again it's more a concern for competitive play than pub, depending on your own style.

I never said that, wtf. That's what everyone else who doesn't understand the hero says.

On November 28 2013 02:21 Alaric wrote:
What changed most for the mids? I don't remember any huge changes pertaining to that lane, but I'm a scrub so I certainly missed a bunch of stuff even when following the thread. The timing of the first night is important for gankers but Cold Feet needs a setup to work well, I remember that part.

Repeated nerfs to bottle-crowing means he can suppress many melee heroes that could just stalemate/beat him due to his lack of AoE early.

On November 28 2013 02:21 Alaric wrote:
He looked interesting the first time I read about him on the wiki, esp. the ult for sniping or cutting a retreat path as you engage, but it seemed pretty hard to aim and use well for a beginner like me. Do people max his E first because of the damage potential if he buffs his whole team once grouping starts?

Almost always max Cold Feet first. Vortex vs. Chilling Touch is situational. Sometimes take points in stats early game in solos because the other 2 skills are not that strong in 1v1 lanes.
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
November 30 2013 06:56 GMT
#1060
caelym is level 5 abaddon when everyone else is level 9/10

2 minutes later he gets triple kill and team wipe wtf
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