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While this thread is labeled "DotA2", this is in fact a community thread first. Many of the users in the TL LoL subforum have been playing as friends for over a year now, so it makes logical sense that they would want to play other games together. Do not compare DotA2 to LoL, you will get banned. TL LoL veterans know what is expected. Newcomers be warned. gl hf | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 08 2012 11:49 SirMilford wrote: Also, isn't zhyona's hourglass similar to the "Ghost scepter". Allthough zhyonas is invun and not moving, ghost is ehteral and no physical damage. I've always preferred the comparison of Zhonya's to being a self-only Eul's. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On March 08 2012 11:53 TheYango wrote: I've always preferred the comparison of Zhonya's to being a self-only Eul's. Ya, because another big distinction is that you can also cast spells while ethereal. Zhonya's is just a 3 second 'timeout.' | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Same as how manta is like a PD- movespeed, attackspeed, only instead of crit you get to have a threesome. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 08 2012 11:56 LAN-f34r wrote: only go armlet if you are huskar, lifestealer, or skeleton king, ect. Fixed. Although Armlet Sniper is pretty hilarious. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 08 2012 11:59 Two_DoWn wrote: I think the point of comparing is that lol players have a list of items memorized that give certain stats and have certain abilities. Being able to compare new items to the list they have memorized already is a huge shortcut. Afterwards its a great idea to say wether the item is good or not, but just being able to say Ded is like IE only not worth buying is HUGE cuz now I know there is a big damage item that has crit. Same as how manta is like a PD- movespeed, attackspeed, only instead of crit you get to have a threesome. i remember reading somewhere that dedalus is only cost-effective/competitive in terms of damage output when compared to stuff like butterfly and manta after you break 200 damage. gonna add more stuff to my item post as i think of more comparisons. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Semirelated question- With someone like sand king- I channel ult then blink dagger right? | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
Yes, and you can shift R+blink - you will channel your ulti, then blink into the team when that finishes. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Press and release shift- r blink. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 08 2012 12:53 Ryuu314 wrote: Shift queuing works the same way as in WC3, BW, SC2, etc... None of which I have played in over a year. How much gold do you lose when you die? | ||
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520
United States2822 Posts
On March 08 2012 12:57 Two_DoWn wrote: None of which I have played in over a year. How much gold do you lose when you die? You lose 30 * the level of your hero. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
There's unreliable gold and reliable gold. You can only lose from your pool of unreliable gold. This is everything but kill bounties. Reliable gold you will never lose. This comes from kill bounties. http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Gold - You can read more there. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Additionally, gold gained from hero kills/assists is considered "reliable" gold, and cannot be lost on death. Unreliable gold (normal gold gain over time, gold from cs, etc.) is spent before reliable gold when buying items. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Queue as 4 people, find a pub guy who is like "Wanna go again, lich?" (dno who was lich that game) We invite him into our party, get him to tell us that he played dota for 6 years and that we seem pretty solid for beginners... just to tell him we come from LoL. He kinda went on a short "LEAGUE SO EASY" rant and realized he was outnumbered. GG. I'm not 100% sure if the item comparison makes sense because of some basic differences. e.g.: -Support items in DotA >> support items in LoL. -MRes is nothing you see people getting a lot. You mostly get that BKB for your 10s perma-cleanse. -One of the strong agil carry items (butterfly) gives also evasion so it's kinda a defensive items if you fight physical dps. -A lot of the big items also have defensive stat bonuses in them so they also give offensive/defensive stats (e.g. Aghanims/Sheepstick) which makes "real defensive items" less common/usefull. I'd rather say we try and do a list which basically describes some commonly used items on which roles and why they are being used. Like, I probably build most of my heroes badly atm but I can totally get away with a rather narrow choice of items. e.g. it doesn't matter whether I'm WR or Furion, Sheepstick/Force staff/Mekansm (or MKB / Orchids) are all good items. It doesn't matter whether I'm drow, sniper or AM, Manta/Butterfly are stronk. | ||
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