EPT[Patch 1.0.0.135: Fiora] General Discussion - Page 25
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tissue
Malaysia441 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:35 Slayer91 wrote: Fiora seems really strong. I played her once definitely doesn't seem weak I went like 2 dblades wits hog phage randuins trinity but might get wriggles instead because lifesteal hella good on her. I still can't decide if I like wit's interaction with her kit. on-hit is cool with her ult and you get a lot of procs from the free AS on E and the resists are good, but at the same time, lifesteal, arpen, and stardard ADish stats seem to have great synergy too. uhg, can't decide how you should play her. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:45 Mogwai wrote: I still can't decide if I like wit's interaction with her kit. on-hit is cool with her ult and you get a lot of procs from the free AS on E and the resists are good, but at the same time, lifesteal, arpen, and stardard ADish stats seem to have great synergy too. uhg, can't decide how you should play her. Build her like talon/pant, bts lw and a ga. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:48 Mogwai wrote: I don't think that makes sense because she has really good sustained Auto-damage potential, which forces you to be tankier. Even though I hate having wit's and atma's in the same build I'm thinking wriggle's, wit's, mallet, atma's might be a strong core on her. Why you don't like wit and atma on the same build ? That's usually the build I go with shyvana (wriggles, merc, mallet, wit, atma). | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:48 WhiteDog wrote: Fiora seems to be the type of hero that needs a shit ton of money and that you don't want to feed. I've seen her twice and if she gets pwned, she is just useless, no snare, no nothing. On the other side, I've seen her feed once, and she tower dive, jump on you, play with you like you are nothing. sounds like akali kind of | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
Except she actually tanks quite a lot with the good items. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:48 WhiteDog wrote: Fiora seems to be the type of hero that needs a shit ton of money and that you don't want to feed. I've seen her twice and if she gets pwned, she is just useless, no snare, no nothing. On the other side, I've seen her feed once, and she tower dive, jump on you, play with you like you are nothing. Why you don't like wit and atma on the same build ? That's usually the build I go with shyvana (wriggles, merc, mallet, wit, atma). if you're getting atmas, pdancer is a better aspeed option, in general edit: because of the crit | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:48 WhiteDog wrote: Fiora seems to be the type of hero that needs a shit ton of money and that you don't want to feed. I've seen her twice and if she gets pwned, she is just useless, no snare, no nothing. On the other side, I've seen her feed once, and she tower dive, jump on you, play with you like you are nothing. Why you don't like wit and atma on the same build ? That's usually the build I go with shyvana (wriggles, merc, mallet, wit, atma). because wit's doesn't synergize particularly well with AD/Crit setups and I usually would rather it be a PD in those style builds, but I guess the raw cost effectiveness of atma's and wit's is such that they can get along just fine despite their non-existent synergy  . | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23465 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:54 Mogwai wrote: because wit's doesn't synergize particularly well with AD/Crit setups and I usually would rather it be a PD in those style builds, but I guess the raw cost effectiveness of atma's and wit's is such that they can get along just fine despite their non-existent synergy .Ususually wits end is about as much AS that is effective on melees before you have problems with runners so getting atmas isn't that bad when getting atmas without any AS feels a bit weak. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
I guess I'll do that tribunal thing when the game is loading. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:54 Mogwai wrote: because wit's doesn't synergize particularly well with AD/Crit setups and I usually would rather it be a PD in those style builds, but I guess the raw cost effectiveness of atma's and wit's is such that they can get along just fine despite their non-existent synergy .they both scale well with attack speed? ta da? is it just me that sees it competely viable to build her as a tank if you wanted to? ree sin has insanity scaling ult too yet its rare to build dmg on him. with her passive heal, tons of damage from flat bonus's /steroids and her ult making her untargetable if she is focused(?) she could be quite a decent bruiser. GA wits ionic wriggles main item goals etc. probably a mallet or triforce. she seems like a great 1v1 hero but so ult reliant for survival in team fights ;o | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 02 2012 05:09 Slayer91 wrote: Ususually wits end is about as much AS that is effective on melees before you have problems with runners so getting atmas isn't that bad when getting atmas without any AS feels a bit weak. eh, I'm just saying that Wit's only has as much synergy with Atma's as a Recurve Bow, so from my approach to creating builds, I just cringe at the thought of putting them together, but they're both just so darn effective that once I get over that hangup I can understand why people do it. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 02 2012 05:10 Shikyo wrote: Or from a design perspective Parry should perhaps disarm? Prevent normal attacks for 1 second or something.. I think that would make sense lorewise, not sure about balance. actually the way it's set up now makes the most sense lorewise (if we're talking about from a fencing perspecitve). The basic defensive move is a parry-riposte, which is exactly what is happening here. parry != disarm. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 02 2012 05:14 barbsq wrote: actually the way it's set up now makes the most sense lorewise (if we're talking about from a fencing perspecitve). The basic defensive move is a parry-riposte, which is exactly what is happening here. parry != disarm. her footwork is too shitty to be a really fencer anyway. like, he stance is far too high up, she needs to have a wider base, lower center of gravity and orient her blade towards her opponent. also parry would be sweeter if it animated through the standard 1-8 foil parry positions as you used it throughout the game. | ||
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On March 02 2012 04:38 barbsq wrote: that would be cool.... if i had a mobile browser, lol. that actually sounds kinda neat tho, being able to wield the banhammer whilst riding the T to school, lol. Whooaaa! We have a Boston man? I do tribunal while waiting for games and at other times when I have a browser but can't play league. The extra 400-500 IP a week is really nice, and I feel good banning all the asshats that ruin my games. Protect and serve. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On March 02 2012 05:18 Mogwai wrote: her footwork is too shitty to be a really fencer anyway. like, he stance is far too high up, she needs to have a wider base and lower center of gravity. also parry would be sweeter if it animated through the standard 1-8 foil parry positions as you used it throughout the game. that would make her instabuy status for me, lol (4 year sabre fencer), but at the same time, it seems like that would be a massive pain in the ass to animate all of them. I havn't actually seen her animations, but if they're really that bad, it might seriously bug me,  . Can't exactly expect the riot team to hire an outside expert and do motion-capture just for this one champ tho, haha | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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