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On March 02 2012 06:16 GreenManalishi wrote:
Anyone played the Irelia v. Fiora matchup? I just went top as Irelia, and got absolutely dominated. I hadn't played against a Fiora yet, and I was very surprised at her level 3 trading power. Dash + Burst of speed + Parry hurts like crazy. I ended up getting Rammus camped most of the laning stage, and lost the game in 20 minutes, so I can't really comment on how the matchup changes as Irelia gains some levels.
Anyone who has tried the matchup and care to comment? Does Irelia eventually start winning trades, or does Fiora just do too much damage?
I think the easiest way is just to poke her down. Her poke is only Q, which isn't that strong, so keep bladesurging and going away, imo.
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On March 02 2012 06:18 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 06:16 GreenManalishi wrote:
Anyone played the Irelia v. Fiora matchup? I just went top as Irelia, and got absolutely dominated. I hadn't played against a Fiora yet, and I was very surprised at her level 3 trading power. Dash + Burst of speed + Parry hurts like crazy. I ended up getting Rammus camped most of the laning stage, and lost the game in 20 minutes, so I can't really comment on how the matchup changes as Irelia gains some levels.
Anyone who has tried the matchup and care to comment? Does Irelia eventually start winning trades, or does Fiora just do too much damage? theoretically speaking, Fiora should win pre-wriggles, but around level 7 and wriggle's, I don't see how Fiora's supposed to wear irelia down.
I saw Wickd play the matchup as Fiora, and even though he got first blood right when he hit lvl 6 because the Irelia got greedy for some cs because she was bullying Fiora at lvl 5, when they both came back into lane Wickd just couldn't trade with Irelia at all. It wasn't even close. He ended up getting zoned super hard.
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Does anyone know where the bracket for tourny CLG.eu is playing in?
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What do you guys think Is a reasonable fluctuation in ELO? I just dropped 100 ELO and I really dont feel I played poorly at all. I feel like I'm doing better than ever but alot of times teams just dont know how to take objectives or teamfight.
Is 100 ELO just a reasonable bad streak or am I probably sucking and I just don't see it.
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On March 02 2012 06:33 sob3k wrote:
What do you guys think Is a reasonable fluctuation in ELO? I just dropped 100 ELO and I really dont feel I played poorly at all. I feel like I'm doing better than ever but alot of times teams just dont know how to take objectives or teamfight.
Is 100 ELO just a reasonable bad streak or am I probably sucking and I just don't see it.
100 is around the cutoff for a reasonable bad streak. I'd say that chances are pretty high that you're missing something in your own play.
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On March 02 2012 06:33 sob3k wrote:
What do you guys think Is a reasonable fluctuation in ELO? I just dropped 100 ELO and I really dont feel I played poorly at all. I feel like I'm doing better than ever but alot of times teams just dont know how to take objectives or teamfight.
Is 100 ELO just a reasonable bad streak or am I probably sucking and I just don't see it.
100 elo is fine, I think. I go up and down 100~ish on good and bad days sometimes. The worst I've ever had was a 200 drop on one single horrible day.
It was kinda funny when I thought about it the next day.
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On March 02 2012 06:36 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 06:33 sob3k wrote:
What do you guys think Is a reasonable fluctuation in ELO? I just dropped 100 ELO and I really dont feel I played poorly at all. I feel like I'm doing better than ever but alot of times teams just dont know how to take objectives or teamfight.
Is 100 ELO just a reasonable bad streak or am I probably sucking and I just don't see it. 100 elo is fine, I think. I go up and down 100~ish on good and bad days sometimes. The worst I've ever had was a 200 drop on one single horrible day. It was kinda funny when I thought about it the next day.
I think it's ok. In fact it happens to me I just fail with my usual champs then I try some i don't play that often and lose more elo. When I want to get my elo back I personally pick nidalee top & lee sin jungle which are my win elo champs. Sometimes I jsut train with new champs and I can also lose some elo, specially if there is no clear guide on TL. If there is one I just feel good whereas it's the understanding of better players which carry me. Make a clear mundo guide please. full crits page does not work on him since they nerfed his ulti.
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On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at.
*scoffs*
I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's.
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HazMat playing Panth and Smash streaming... too hard to choose!
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On March 02 2012 07:15 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at. *scoffs* I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's.
Yeah, Wit's is a horrible item on Shen. It's also really smart to build a 3,9k item to ''counter'' a single champ and then do next to nothing against the rest of their team. Also, do you build it regardless of what you play? Duh.
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On March 02 2012 07:59 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 07:15 wei2coolman wrote:On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at. *scoffs* I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's. Yeah, Wit's is a horrible item on Shen. It's also really smart to build a 3,9k item to ''counter'' a single champ and then do next to nothing against the rest of their team. Also, do you build it regardless of what you play? Duh.
Madred es op on Ryze.
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On March 02 2012 07:38 Alaric wrote:
HazMat playing Panth and Smash streaming... too hard to choose!
Never watch me play bot lane. Go watch smash.
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On March 02 2012 07:59 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 07:15 wei2coolman wrote:On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at. *scoffs* I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's. Yeah, Wit's is a horrible item on Shen. It's also really smart to build a 3,9k item to ''counter'' a single champ and then do next to nothing against the rest of their team. Also, do you build it regardless of what you play? Duh.
it's usually shen top, and some form of bruiser jungle. I just tear through everyone with madreds bloodrazer. Obviously not my first item to rush, but definitely a mid-lategame goal.
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On March 02 2012 07:59 Shiv. wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 07:15 wei2coolman wrote:On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at. *scoffs* I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's. Yeah, Wit's is a horrible item on Shen. It's also really smart to build a 3,9k item to ''counter'' a single champ and then do next to nothing against the rest of their team. Also, do you build it regardless of what you play? Duh.
How does an item that gives 40 AD, 40% aspd, and 4% magic dmg of max health per hit do next to nothing vs their entire team? Who exactly does it do exactly nothing against? A tank with no hp and mass mres? Do you consider 40 AD and 40 aspd nothing in that case, seeing as he'll have no armor then?
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-200 elo is reasonable imo, i tried to go for 300 but was too tired. I don't know how I never got banned though since I chat-threw every game and even added some people after to continue the conversation. One of them even screenshotted and said he was sending it to his riot friend. Brees on the other hand plays one game and gets banned the next day. HOW
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On March 02 2012 08:19 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 07:59 Shiv. wrote:On March 02 2012 07:15 wei2coolman wrote:On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at. *scoffs* I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's. Yeah, Wit's is a horrible item on Shen. It's also really smart to build a 3,9k item to ''counter'' a single champ and then do next to nothing against the rest of their team. Also, do you build it regardless of what you play? Duh. How does an item that gives 40 AD, 40% aspd, and 4% magic dmg of max health per hit do next to nothing vs their entire team? Who exactly does it do exactly nothing against? A tank with no hp and mass mres? Do you consider 40 AD and 40 aspd nothing in that case, seeing as he'll have no armor then?
The problem of MBR are not it's stats but the cost and the fact it's hard to build on most people unless they build it as their 6th item. On basically any champ I can think of, I'd rather spend 4k gold on anything but MBR and be more useful in 9/10 teamfight scenarios. BF sword items are better for damage, and for 4k, you can get loads survivability.
Sure, it's great late game, but I'd never rush it. Ever.
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On March 02 2012 08:19 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 07:59 Shiv. wrote:On March 02 2012 07:15 wei2coolman wrote:On March 02 2012 06:00 Mogwai wrote:
bloodrazor got a nice buff. 10 AD is nothing to scoff at. *scoffs* I almost always build madreds everytime I see a shen. None of them are smart enough to build MR and only build health, so i just lolololololololoolololloolol over shen's. Yeah, Wit's is a horrible item on Shen. It's also really smart to build a 3,9k item to ''counter'' a single champ and then do next to nothing against the rest of their team. Also, do you build it regardless of what you play? Duh. How does an item that gives 40 AD, 40% aspd, and 4% magic dmg of max health per hit do next to nothing vs their entire team? Who exactly does it do exactly nothing against? A tank with no hp and mass mres? Do you consider 40 AD and 40 aspd nothing in that case, seeing as he'll have no armor then?
Even on Kog Maw Madred's isn't even remotely competitive with an IE build until the target has about 3000 HP and then they're roughly even as long as your target is even on resistances. Mixing the two types of builds sucks even more, and IE has the natural advantage of benefiting from lifesteal, crit, and easy access to movespeed.
Meanwhile MBR by itself is inferior to WE or even spark in every way. Even combining WE and Spark is better than buying MBR.
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Apparently, according to Phreak, Swain E, Vlad ult, and Poppy ult DO NOT increase the damage that ignite deals, (or in the case of vlad, any source of true damage from anyone).
Have I been wrong in thinking that they did all this time, or is this another case of Phreak being Phreak.
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