EPTOn March 02 2012 10:05 Vei wrote:
say i was terrible, and didn't know what that meant...
say i was terrible, and didn't know what that meant...
teemo like malady wits end and stuff like that
riven wriggles bt ga iedge/last whisper?
i think
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
teemo like malady wits end and stuff like that riven wriggles bt ga iedge/last whisper? i think | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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SpaceToaster
United States289 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:05 Vei wrote: say i was terrible, and didn't know what that meant... In my estimations (assuming he builds Teemo and Riven like I do), either build onhit/aspeed items like wit's end with a frozen mallet, or build wriggles > bt > mercs > GA > more deeps. | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On March 02 2012 08:50 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: What's some weird stuff you do that other's don't? I don't get doran's items. Ever. I don't think they're worth the cost once you sell them. When I first started the game in Sept. I never got them because I liked starting boots for the sustain, (what is cs, I only harass :p). And I built a lot of mid game items. I've heard what you've heard. I think Phreak is wrong but have never tested it myself. I build hexdrinker situationally. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
Unlike Yi your steroid is unreliable but your alpha strike and meditate are now one skill that scales off of ad and lifesteal. GA is pretty boss, cos if you die you can wakeup ult and trash their team. I've been feeling Wriggle/Bruta-BC-BT-GA. I like wriggle more because it's still a godmode item that lets you split push like a boss (and you're a pretty good split pusher with it). Unfortunately no global ult, so I'm torn between teleport and cleanse. Cleanse is really really good on her, and so is Ghost. Maxing W first is good in certain lanes, maxing Q first is probably the best. Q is very flexible and if you engage on them behind their creeps you can use it to dash back out or keep chasing. Minion damage reduction in defense tree is super useful for that reason. oh hey beaten p.s. black cleaver is godlike | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:05 Vei wrote: say i was terrible, and didn't know what that meant... I think most people build teemo with on hit items like malady (shit item btw imo) wit's end and madreds bloodrazer, and they want to do the same on fiora to make use of her ult. This also makes her a bit tankier (madreds gives armor and wits gives MR) which is good since it means she can take damage from 1-2 people better. The idea with teemo is that his range is bad so he is in more danger than most AD carries (even though some AD carries have range similar to him) and his E already does magic damage... so why not more magic damage. Riven is built with a lot of AD (bloodthirsters, GA, a second bloodthirster, more bloodthirsters) to take advantage of the fact that she scales with bonus AD and that her passive and ult give her an AD steroid and that her shield scales off AD. edit: beaten. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:05 Vei wrote: say i was terrible, and didn't know what that meant... Teemo build: Wriggles, Wits end, Bloodrazor, Frozen Mallet, tank Riven build: Wriggles, Bloodthirster, LW, GA edit: Man Poppy is fun! Solo top, win the lane slightly but enemy mid Lux is 12-0(wtf). In every fight just dive the Lux np and win. Poppy best anti-fed champion ever! On March 02 2012 09:26 Two_DoWn wrote: Abbyssal, not fon. And everyone knows the way to win vs LB is to just buy 13 health potions. That is... a really good idea! I need to open with that next time vs LB. And to answer hitting Q and killing her: I don't think you can trade like that, when you hit Q you get QW'd and can't punish that, after 6 its WQR Yeah FoN probably terrible, though by the time I had 4 doran rings and negatron I was 0-2 and was 3 levels behind(couldn't leave tower) | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:57 UniversalSnip wrote: ive concluded i hate the item callouts. is there any way to disable them? I dunno, but I am finding them grating on me more and more. And I know I made a thread for this, but screw it: just hit 1812~ WHOOOT | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
^I do this for characters like Talon, in which AS doesn't really benefit that much. And that the AP damage is in full bursts, not sustained (ie, annie, brand). I rarely get RoA (only champ I think it's good on is singed), I just feel Doran's ring stack into Deathcap is just so much better than Catalyst->RoA. I rarely play super popular fotm supposedly "op'd" champions. ie, riven, gp, trynd, (release talon), (release graves), lee sin (pre-nerf), morgana, rammus and so on. I dunno why, I just think some of those champions have boring kits | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:38 Shikyo wrote: Teemo build: Wriggles, Wits end, Bloodrazor, Frozen Mallet, tank Riven build: Wriggles, Bloodthirster, LW, GA edit: Man Poppy is fun! Solo top, win the lane slightly but enemy mid Lux is 12-0(wtf). In every fight just dive the Lux np and win. Poppy best anti-fed champion ever! That is... a really good idea! I need to open with that next time vs LB. And to answer hitting Q and killing her: I don't think you can trade like that, when you hit Q you get QW'd and can't punish that, after 6 its WQR Yeah FoN probably terrible, though by the time I had 4 doran rings and negatron I was 0-2 and was 3 levels behind(couldn't leave tower) first of all against LB you want to push the crap out of her pre6, she will lose huge amounts of CS to tower. Be very aggressive but avoid getting close enough for her to jump onto you, as this will basically halve her damage. Her dash in on a monumental CD early, so if she uses it you have a big window to heavily outtrade her. As Cass you have to have lightning reflexes after level 6 and catch her with ult when she comes at you. Even after 6 her damage is predictable in that both ult and jump have long CD's, just spam at her in between these and dont get snared. Get your jungle to ward the bush in between their mid and blue, and gank her when she goes to get it. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On March 02 2012 09:28 Shiv. wrote: I considered Abyssal when I played the MU, but are you realistically ever going to be THAT near in a teamfight? IDK, with Cass' range, it seems like BV would be so much better. Abyssal range is 1000. Cass Q range is 850. Cass E range is 700. You might not cover the whole team but as long as you're fighting and not kiting at least your team will benefit for whichever target you're focusing. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
On March 02 2012 11:04 phyvo wrote: Abyssal range is 1000. Cass Q range is 850. Cass E range is 700. You might not cover the whole team but as long as you're fighting and not kiting at least your team will benefit for whichever target you're focusing. In this specific match up really comes down to the jungler imo, cass has a lot of pushing power, but you have to be careful of ganks, if you are slightly out of position youre probably going to die. The thing is you have to take this risk or else just sitting back and playing def in lane will result in a loss at 6. Also one thing you can do if you are confident in your reactions, is when you both turn 6 and, you can bait her w, into q r, but ult her the second she blinks in. Even better if you can bait her into tower range :D Also realistically, you should be getting something like revolver/giants belt depending on your first item preference, and then maybe a negatron, then finish your core. | ||
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datscilly
United States529 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:57 UniversalSnip wrote: ive concluded i hate the item callouts. is there any way to disable them? These item callouts might literally be the worst idea Riot has ever had. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 02 2012 12:25 arnath wrote: These item callouts might literally be the worst idea Riot has ever had. The idea is definitely taken from DotA. The difference is that in DotA there are ward cooldowns, so you don't get alerted like 5 times when someone buys a stack of wards. IMO the game should only alert you once if someone starts buying wards. If he buys a ton in a few seconds after, the alert should be disabled--I really don't care how many wards you bought. That and they need to trim down the list of other items that trigger the alerts. I only really care to be alerted about items that the team doesn't want to have too many of (basically just Aura items and maybe the support actives like Shurelya's and Locket). EDIT: Actually, the lack of ward CDs makes the callout plain useless. It's useful in DotA because the alerts let supports know whether wards are in stock without having to tab back to base to check, but there's no analogue to that in LoL at all. The fact that your allies bought wards is very unlikely to affect your ward buying. | ||
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