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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 01 2012 18:10 GMT
#461
On March 02 2012 03:01 Requizen wrote:
The only thing I thought really sucked was her Parry thingy. It just seemed so useless past early game skirmishes. Yeah, neglecting one hit can be big later on, but it's not enough damage or anything to discourage them from just attacking you again and killing you. It just takes a half second longer. And against any AP/caster champs (Rumble/Morde/Kennen/Yorick/Panth for example), it's nigh-useless.
.


Keep in mind it's a parry + 35AD. A free permanent 15AD at lower levels is huge for top laners.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
March 01 2012 18:13 GMT
#462
On March 02 2012 03:02 Mogwai wrote:
I'm pretty sure Fiora beats GP in lane though. Parry wrecks Parrrley.


She does, seen that match up on stream and she totally wrecks GP.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#463
On March 02 2012 03:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 03:01 Requizen wrote:
The only thing I thought really sucked was her Parry thingy. It just seemed so useless past early game skirmishes. Yeah, neglecting one hit can be big later on, but it's not enough damage or anything to discourage them from just attacking you again and killing you. It just takes a half second longer. And against any AP/caster champs (Rumble/Morde/Kennen/Yorick/Panth for example), it's nigh-useless.
.


Keep in mind it's a parry + 35AD. A free permanent 15AD at lower levels is huge for top laners.

True, it's worth the levels for that. The active just seems meh past trading in lane.
It's your boy Guzma!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 18:24:36
March 01 2012 18:23 GMT
#464
The biggest thing I was thinking about on the parry passive is just how strong it can make Fiora's lvl 1 fighting ability. You could go in with a full armor pen rune page and take parry lvl 1, so at lvl 1 you'll have 31flat|10% penetration and +18AD. That's a pretty impressive considering that it comes with an active that will allow you to easily trade favourably at lvl 1.

I think her ult is kinda weird though, in how it's really just better in team fights than 1v1 duels. I also wish her E had a passive component.
warscythes
Profile Joined December 2011
365 Posts
March 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#465
On March 02 2012 03:22 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 03:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On March 02 2012 03:01 Requizen wrote:
The only thing I thought really sucked was her Parry thingy. It just seemed so useless past early game skirmishes. Yeah, neglecting one hit can be big later on, but it's not enough damage or anything to discourage them from just attacking you again and killing you. It just takes a half second longer. And against any AP/caster champs (Rumble/Morde/Kennen/Yorick/Panth for example), it's nigh-useless.
.


Keep in mind it's a parry + 35AD. A free permanent 15AD at lower levels is huge for top laners.

True, it's worth the levels for that. The active just seems meh past trading in lane.


True, in team fights it is just as likely to block a mage's 80 damage AA and a carry's 800 damage crit.

Really strong 1v1 though as expected.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
March 01 2012 18:41 GMT
#466
On March 02 2012 03:25 warscythes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 03:22 Requizen wrote:
On March 02 2012 03:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On March 02 2012 03:01 Requizen wrote:
The only thing I thought really sucked was her Parry thingy. It just seemed so useless past early game skirmishes. Yeah, neglecting one hit can be big later on, but it's not enough damage or anything to discourage them from just attacking you again and killing you. It just takes a half second longer. And against any AP/caster champs (Rumble/Morde/Kennen/Yorick/Panth for example), it's nigh-useless.
.


Keep in mind it's a parry + 35AD. A free permanent 15AD at lower levels is huge for top laners.

True, it's worth the levels for that. The active just seems meh past trading in lane.


True, in team fights it is just as likely to block a mage's 80 damage AA and a carry's 800 damage crit.

Really strong 1v1 though as expected.

Not at all equally likely. You're assuming that both the mage and the carry are autoattacking the same amount which is obviously never going to happen.
Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
March 01 2012 19:01 GMT
#467
On March 02 2012 03:25 warscythes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 03:22 Requizen wrote:
On March 02 2012 03:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
On March 02 2012 03:01 Requizen wrote:
The only thing I thought really sucked was her Parry thingy. It just seemed so useless past early game skirmishes. Yeah, neglecting one hit can be big later on, but it's not enough damage or anything to discourage them from just attacking you again and killing you. It just takes a half second longer. And against any AP/caster champs (Rumble/Morde/Kennen/Yorick/Panth for example), it's nigh-useless.
.


Keep in mind it's a parry + 35AD. A free permanent 15AD at lower levels is huge for top laners.

True, it's worth the levels for that. The active just seems meh past trading in lane.


True, in team fights it is just as likely to block a mage's 80 damage AA and a carry's 800 damage crit.

Really strong 1v1 though as expected.


You have to keep in mind that the parry skill has a long CD and you can't anticipate when the huge crit is coming. You "might" be able to anticpate when the mage will blow his CDs on you and usually they have more than 1 nuke. If they are smart, they will just bait you to use your parry then blow everything on you. Having the skill does not = auto win. If you are facing Tryn or Yi, you will lose having parry or not.
My right arm is much stronger than my left arm!
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
March 01 2012 19:10 GMT
#468
If the parry skill has a long cooldown I don't see how you beat GP when he parrrleys you every 3 seconds.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#469
Its not like you stand around doing nothing.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 01 2012 19:15 GMT
#470
If gp parrleys you every 3 seconds he either uses shitty runes or is cheating, or both.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 01 2012 19:17 GMT
#471
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 01 2012 19:18 GMT
#472
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?

No and no
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 01 2012 19:19 GMT
#473
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?

5ip for each correct case, you decide if it's worth it. Don't forget you get rid of the a-holes in this game.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 01 2012 19:23 GMT
#474
On March 02 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?

5ip for each correct case, you decide if it's worth it. Don't forget you get rid of the a-holes in this game.

Oh goodness, don't get that started again. I don't want people screaming at one another over whether or not the Tribunal actually works or not. I think the last time it took up like, 15 pages of argument.
It's your boy Guzma!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
March 01 2012 19:26 GMT
#475
On March 02 2012 04:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 04:19 JackDino wrote:
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?

5ip for each correct case, you decide if it's worth it. Don't forget you get rid of the a-holes in this game.

Oh goodness, don't get that started again. I don't want people screaming at one another over whether or not the Tribunal actually works or not. I think the last time it took up like, 15 pages of argument.

Just saying that you DO get rid off the dicks who play this game, never said you get rid off every single one of them.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-01 19:28:58
March 01 2012 19:27 GMT
#476
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?


well, it can be worth it if u can chug them out during champ select, i guess. I wouldn't go out of my way to do them tho.

edit: it would be 100x more convenient if you could do it within the client, like if i could pop open tribunal while in champ select or in queue, that would be pretty awesome.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23465 Posts
March 01 2012 19:35 GMT
#477
Fiora seems really strong. I played her once definitely doesn't seem weak I went like 2 dblades wits hog phage randuins trinity but might get wriggles instead because lifesteal hella good on her.
aka Teutonica
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
March 01 2012 19:35 GMT
#478
On March 02 2012 04:27 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?


well, it can be worth it if u can chug them out during champ select, i guess. I wouldn't go out of my way to do them tho.

edit: it would be 100x more convenient if you could do it within the client, like if i could pop open tribunal while in champ select or in queue, that would be pretty awesome.

Just popping in briefly, but Tribunal now works on mobile browsers iirc.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 01 2012 19:38 GMT
#479
On March 02 2012 04:35 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 04:27 barbsq wrote:
On March 02 2012 04:17 Erasme wrote:
Btw guys, does the Tribunal rewards a lot of ip ? And is it worth it ?


well, it can be worth it if u can chug them out during champ select, i guess. I wouldn't go out of my way to do them tho.

edit: it would be 100x more convenient if you could do it within the client, like if i could pop open tribunal while in champ select or in queue, that would be pretty awesome.

Just popping in briefly, but Tribunal now works on mobile browsers iirc.


that would be cool.... if i had a mobile browser, lol.

that actually sounds kinda neat tho, being able to wield the banhammer whilst riding the T to school, lol.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
March 01 2012 19:40 GMT
#480
I have very big complaints about this patch. They said they buffed Explosive shot to 625. I tested it ingame, it's at most 600 range. I was even more annoyed by the fact that whenever I tried to apply it on urgot he ( and his Sona friend ) would take me to half HP :o).
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