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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:04 billy5000 wrote: what happened to chauster? so far, i've seen every clg members stream except for him. We was streaming from PC-Bang today on Korea Server. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
Then again i guess with comps with good gap closers or olaf the problems would be diminished. Does anyone know of any tournament-level games where this sort of comp has been used to success? Excluding games with Urgot for the sake of argument. I'm just kind of curious about it I guess. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:23 ViZe wrote: Is that 3 bruiser comp a normal thing to run? I don't think I've ever actually seen a high-level team use it aside from those occasional games with an Urgot. I imagine if they are against a team with a standard ad carry and a typical amount of cc there would be serious kiting problems. Then again i guess with comps with good gap closers or olaf the problems would be diminished. Does anyone know of any tournament-level games where this sort of comp has been used to success? Excluding games with Urgot for the sake of argument. I'm just kind of curious about it I guess. It depends on how literal you want to get when you say bruiser. Ryze, Ahri, Cass, and Galio are all very bruisery if you build them a certain way (ie what you see M5 run mid, or whatever it is froggen does). | ||
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
On March 20 2012 01:59 Bambipwnsu wrote: I have a huge headache from reading the last 10 or so pages :3 Going off on a completely different tangent, would any of the TL ''support players'' give me a hand? I've recently started playing support for a 5s team and I feel like I could use some tips on lane matchups, warding and generals of the sort. I play the bot lane in ranked now whether it be ad carry or support, and I feel like just in general, playing bot exclusively has helped me understand a greater deal about the lane, but I still make blatant lane mistakes when there is a matchup I dont understand. Example just yesterday me and my duo partner decided to be aggressive as Janna corki vs sona ezrael at level 3 and it ended up with us getting our asses handed on a platter lol. Is this a positional mistake of being hit by ezrael q or is the lane just stronger at that certain level. Feel free to talk to me ingame as well as in the thread. I feel like there is alot of things to be picked up from watching other people play but support streams are rare :3 Basically what Neo said, you picked an aggressive lane against a lane that begs for you to be aggressive. Since there are so many factors in bottom lane, it's really hard to tell you exactly what went wrong without directly seeing the replay, but if I had to guess I would say that you tried to get aggressive pre-philo at level 3 and you ate a ton of damage that made you back off and gave control of the lane over to Ez and once that happened you lost control of the creep wave since you couldn't trade effectively with them. If you wanted to go for a kill in lane without a jungler involved, it would probably have to be done at level 5, once Sona and Janna are level 6, neither side should really be able to pick up a kill. The unfortunate truth it that your best plan in that lane would be to turn it into a farmfest and seek out an advantage either through superior farm or waiting for your opponents to make a mistake. Or call for a jungle gank through the lane is alwasy a good idea. If you wanna talk more about support feel free to hit me up in game as well though I'm not on as much as I used to be. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
It isn't enough to take even half a tower. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
Actually, what's the base attack speed of a promoted minion? If it's high, it might be more beneficial to use AS buffs on it rather than yourself. I'm kind of inspired by the recent tourney play to try it out. | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:27 Two_DoWn wrote: It depends on how literal you want to get when you say bruiser. Ryze, Ahri, Cass, and Galio are all very bruisery if you build them a certain way (ie what you see M5 run mid, or whatever it is froggen does). I had more of the type of bruisers that people like to jungle in mind I guess. For example the game that Teutonica just posted had an Olaf bottom with a Taric instead of a typical AD carry, the rest of his team was Dyrus on Lee top, J4 jungle, and Kennen mid. I don't know if this was really as a result of a miscommunication or because of the fact that the other team had an Urgot bottom or simply because Kerp doesn't like playing AD carries. I really am kind of incompetent when it comes to this game so I thought I would stop lurking this forum and actually just ask a question about something about which I'm curious | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:31 ManyCookies wrote: Traumatic LoL experiences from misunderstandings. It's no laughing matter. Actually, what's the base attack speed of a promoted minion? If it's high, it might be more beneficial to use AS buffs on it rather than yourself. I'm kind of inspired by the recent tourney play to try it out. Wiki says 1.5 attack speed, dunno if that's base or the normal 1.0 + 50%. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
I lost it, ou mai gaad :D true solo q champ | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:37 ViZe wrote: I had more of the type of bruisers that people like to jungle in mind I guess. For example the game that Teutonica just posted had an Olaf bottom with a Taric instead of a typical AD carry, the rest of his team was Dyrus on Lee top, J4 jungle, and Kennen mid. I don't know if this was really as a result of a miscommunication or because of the fact that the other team had an Urgot bottom or simply because Kerp doesn't like playing AD carries. I really am kind of incompetent when it comes to this game so I thought I would stop lurking this forum and actually just ask a question about something about which I'm curious It has worked in the past... Is just about the best way I can put it (see Goose circa one year ago). But as Dyrus said at one point in the replay, they realized they had no way to push towers, and they were basically screwed. The lack of an ad carry just makes playing off the late game INCREDIBLY hard. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:23 ViZe wrote: Is that 3 bruiser comp a normal thing to run? I don't think I've ever actually seen a high-level team use it aside from those occasional games with an Urgot. I imagine if they are against a team with a standard ad carry and a typical amount of cc there would be serious kiting problems. Then again i guess with comps with good gap closers or olaf the problems would be diminished. Does anyone know of any tournament-level games where this sort of comp has been used to success? Excluding games with Urgot for the sake of argument. I'm just kind of curious about it I guess. It think dyrus and kerp just both wanted top, it wasn't planned. Kerp WAS first pick, dyrus second, (after our 2 picks I think). Yeah bruiser comps cant push towers well, but with enough barons and dragons you can just dive anyway, but we had quite a few dragons and towers before they started getting barons. And obviously, olaf doesn't care about CC. | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
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Gandling
United Kingdom126 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:37 Niton wrote: Wiki says 1.5 attack speed, dunno if that's base or the normal 1.0 + 50%. Promote buffs the speed up to 1.5, the "heal" on it is really underwhelming but at full hp it lasts quite a while to just a tower. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:43 Two_DoWn wrote: It has worked in the past... Is just about the best way I can put it (see Goose circa one year ago). But as Dyrus said at one point in the replay, they realized they had no way to push towers, and they were basically screwed. The lack of an ad carry just makes playing off the late game INCREDIBLY hard. Kerp can play AD carry as he's filled that role for his team before(It's probably his worst though) However I kind of feel like he wanted to troll dyrus for taking his toplane Anyway why should Kerp be playing AD carry when he's first pick anyway >_> He's also a way better jungler than TOO. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 20 2012 03:57 Slayer91 wrote: Here it is. http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/318784/ for anyone interested. Solo queue game against dyrus and oddone duo q. Watched dat. Doing Nashor #1 way to throw a game. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23464 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On March 20 2012 04:20 ManyCookies wrote: So how well does Promote push without interference? Can it get a tower or two by its own? well personal experience here... I was 1v1 my friend top and I was trolling a bit cause he wanted practice riven who he just bought... anyways i took promote tele, and i promoted the bot minion wave at around 18 min or so and it managed to push down 2 towers (off a already somewhat pushing wave)... it becomes tanky as hell, not necessarily being a huge damage dealer | ||
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
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