I know this should be in his thread, but everyone is here anyway.
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I know this should be in his thread, but everyone is here anyway. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
her Q is fine on paper, but sounds buggy compared to other dashes right now. this should be your first leveling priority, phreak's an idiot. -2 CD and +50 damage per level just shits on both her other abilities' scalings, but at the end of the day, it's still just a 2 part dash with decent damage scaling and is probably worse than Audatious Charge, Bladesurge, and Nimbus Strike. W passive is boring but decent and active is just a terrible version of counterstrike, which already feels mediocre. the fact that it deals magic damage and scales off AP isn't really helping it's cause either. still, E sucks and as such, this should be your 2nd priority, mostly just for the free AD, but also because the CD scaling is more meaniful on this than on E. E sucks. 3 seconds is garbage, no idea what they were thinking with that duration. it'll let you stick to a target just fine sans CC at level 1 and extra levels won't do shit to help the fact that it's useless vs. literally any form of CC other than silence. the value of that extra AS/MS is extremely low due to the short duration. 1 point at 4, leave till last to max. R's numbers are mediocre, but might be ok due to on-hit schenanigans. Seriously, this character looks like her kit hinges on whether tiamat + R = AoE blowout or not, and that's pretty sad because without that, this is just a glorified alpha strike. I guess what I'm really saying is that she looks terrible when I put her next to Wukong. Seems like he does everything her Q and E do together with just his E, hits harder because he has a good 2nd nuke, and has a much more useful and damaging R and disengage/mitigation from his W. | ||
koreasilver
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
«CleverClark: then someone pick me support Mnescat: I want support myself ![]() CleverClark: play something else plox Bizzybone213: clark cant play anything else CleverClark: im best as supp Mnescat: me 2:S CleverClark: haha Mnescat: my other roles such donkeyballs CleverClark: i dont rly train others in ranked» | ||
r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On March 01 2012 02:45 mr_tolkien wrote: Just got two guys in ranked FIGHTING to get support XD «CleverClark: then someone pick me support Mnescat: I want support myself ![]() CleverClark: play something else plox Bizzybone213: clark cant play anything else CleverClark: im best as supp Mnescat: me 2:S CleverClark: haha Mnescat: my other roles such donkeyballs CleverClark: i dont rly train others in ranked» I had one single incident in my LoL life where someone trolled and fed because he didn't get to play support. I wasn't sure if I'm in a bad comedy or if I just won the lottery. <3 | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 29 2012 20:04 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: So a Morello quote from the official forums : ''Atmogs is something I wanna chew up but we want to put more appropriate fighter items in first so they don't just leave the game'' Pretty interesting to say the least. @mrtolkein yeah, with udyr and shyvanna I don't really have that problem. With warwick etc its different. To be honest it's fallen out of favor quite hard imo. More bruisers are starting to take more team synergyizing items. such as shurelya's, or randuins, or so on, instead of warmogs. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 01 2012 02:58 Mogwai wrote: atmog's has been losing popularity for a long time. not sure why they consider it a problem still. because there is substantial delay between what is good at high elo and what is good below it, and it takes just as long for stuff to fall out of favor. TBH all I want is a Bruta+Giants belt item. That would make pretty much all of my jungle's very happy. That and for FM to get fixed. | ||
Cixah
United States11285 Posts
On March 01 2012 02:56 wei2coolman wrote: To be honest it's fallen out of favor quite hard imo. More bruisers are starting to take more team synergyizing items. such as shurelya's, or randuins, or so on, instead of warmogs. The thing is tht if they add more bruiseresque items what's to stop them from taking warmogs and atmas and fromal and the new mystery item and being an even bigger killing force? Personally I want rabadons and atmas removed or nerfed. Free stats on already cheap items are too easy of a decision in most builds | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On March 01 2012 03:01 Two_DoWn wrote: because there is substantial delay between what is good at high elo and what is good below it, and it takes just as long for stuff to fall out of favor. TBH all I want is a Bruta+Giants belt item. That would make pretty much all of my jungle's very happy. That and for FM to get fixed. Mallet has been trending up a lot even at high elos now. I doubt they'll buff it when it's already seeing a lot of play. | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21678 Posts
On March 01 2012 02:32 Mogwai wrote: alright, after some more looking, she might not be as bad as I just thought, but she still doesn't look right. her Q is fine on paper, but sounds buggy compared to other dashes right now. this should be your first leveling priority, phreak's an idiot. -2 CD and +50 damage per level just shits on both her other abilities' scalings, but at the end of the day, it's still just a 2 part dash with decent damage scaling and is probably worse than Audatious Charge, Bladesurge, and Nimbus Strike. W passive is boring but decent and active is just a terrible version of counterstrike, which already feels mediocre. the fact that it deals magic damage and scales off AP isn't really helping it's cause either. still, E sucks and as such, this should be your 2nd priority, mostly just for the free AD, but also because the CD scaling is more meaniful on this than on E. E sucks. 3 seconds is garbage, no idea what they were thinking with that duration. it'll let you stick to a target just fine sans CC at level 1 and extra levels won't do shit to help the fact that it's useless vs. literally any form of CC other than silence. the value of that extra AS/MS is extremely low due to the short duration. 1 point at 4, leave till last to max. R's numbers are mediocre, but might be ok due to on-hit schenanigans. Seriously, this character looks like her kit hinges on whether tiamat + R = AoE blowout or not, and that's pretty sad because without that, this is just a glorified alpha strike. I guess what I'm really saying is that she looks terrible when I put her next to Wukong. Seems like he does everything her Q and E do together with just his E, hits harder because he has a good 2nd nuke, and has a much more useful and damaging R and disengage/mitigation from his W. Ive been going E>Q>W sofar actualy but ill try your order out for sure and see if it helps her. Im wondering tho what kind of build do you think could be good to try as a top laner. Ive been going wriggles>BT>Mallet sofar to make use of lifesteal during ult to survive but it feels kinda weak in both damage and survivabilty. | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 01 2012 03:01 Cixah wrote: The thing is tht if they add more bruiseresque items what's to stop them from taking warmogs and atmas and fromal and the new mystery item and being an even bigger killing force? Personally I want rabadons and atmas removed or nerfed. Free stats on already cheap items are too easy of a decision in most builds Im not sure atmas is a problem. It is good, but I feel a lot of the time there are better alternatives than atmas. | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On March 01 2012 03:07 Slayer91 wrote: Neither of them are a problem, Riots just making this up. Atmogs had short popularity and now it's good again. It used to seem like the ultimate bruiser combo but it really wasn't. Not to mention the basic fix that solved all of the "tanky dps meta "problems"" was dropping the cost of BF by 200 gold. Something I proposed well in advance to that change. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Things to note about her though, she has no reliable escape mechanics, she can't really push a lane aside from just autoattacking, she offers no utility except pure damage, her voice is annoying as fuck. | ||
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